Saint Guinefort
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You failed to show me where I was in error despite my request. You lose.
Guns, guns, guns, guns
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You failed to show me where I was in error despite my request. You lose.
Into the Night
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Buzzword fallacy. Discard of history. Inversion fallacy.
Saint Guinefort
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Your posts are kind of like a mini-lobotomy. I hate reading your shit. It's so meaningless and pointless. And, yes, I'm insulting you.
You misspelled leftist's halfwit.
T. A. Gardner
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Guess you never heard of the John Brown Gun Club, or Redneck Revolt. I could toss in Black militia groups and other radical Leftists like the Red Brigade in Austin TX as examples.
There's plenty of groups on the radical Left that will use firearms against the government. It's just their version of evil government is different from the Right's.
The radical Left is pushing the same narrative, only you don't hear about it.
https://www.counterextremism.com/su...ons dedicated to direct action and mutual aid.
https://www.influencewatch.org/organization/john-brown-gun-club/
This is an attempt on your part to use a reductio ad absurdum argument. It fails.
Riot = Violent action by 3 or more persons without an organized cause. There is no evidence that the mob at the Capitol acted with a single mind. You can see that from the variety of actions they took and the fact that many were simply let into the Capitol building by police.
Insurrection = Violent action by 3 or more persons with an organized purpose to overthrow or refute government as constituted.
As for The People vs. the US military in a internal civil war, ask yourself, what portion of the military would side with those wanting to overthrow the government? What part would refuse to participate? Then ask yourself if the military could last in operations if their network of civilian industry and suppliers weren't supplying them.
In a civil uprising, the general public doesn't have to go toe to toe with the military or police. There are plenty of other paths to rendering the government impotent and overthrowing it. There are alternatives to a purely armed insurrection or revolution as Eastern Europe and the Russians proved against their oppressive Communist governments.
Into the Night
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Discard of history. RQAA.
Saint Guinefort
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Guns were easier to get years ago than they are today. Why do you think taking guns from responsible gun owners will decrease crime?
Maybe you should educate your kids like we were educated so your kids don't shoot kids, like when we didn't shoot kids when we had guns in school?
Saint Guinefort
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It isn't just ease of access. Now we have MORE guns in circulation than we did in the past. America has among the highest gun ownership rates and one of the highest rates of gun homicides. Studies REPEATEDLY show this correlation. More guns = more gun violence.
We never had guns in schools. I was raised in the midwest by rational people, not the loons that would allow guns in schools. My dad had quite a few guns and we were taught to respect them. Not play with them at school.
More assholes = more gun violence. Refute that guns were easier to get years ago than they are now. you can't, because they were.
You seem to overlook what I said about educating kids not to shoot other kids.
We took our hunting guns to school and left them in our (sometimes unlocked) cars and trucks and never shot anyone.
Apparently we were raised by rational people since we didn't shoot kids. Maybe you should have raised your kids like we were raised.
Mason Michaels
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America is a gun junkie,that's the way it is
and nothing will change that.
and nothing will change that.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Guess you never heard of the John Brown Gun Club, or Redneck Revolt. I could toss in Black militia groups and other radical Leftists like the Red Brigade in Austin TX as examples.
There's plenty of groups on the radical Left that will use firearms against the government. It's just their version of evil government is different from the Right's.
The radical Left is pushing the same narrative, only you don't hear about it.
https://www.counterextremism.com/su...ons dedicated to direct action and mutual aid.
https://www.influencewatch.org/organization/john-brown-gun-club/
This is an attempt on your part to use a reductio ad absurdum argument. It fails.
Riot = Violent action by 3 or more persons without an organized cause. There is no evidence that the mob at the Capitol acted with a single mind. You can see that from the variety of actions they took and the fact that many were simply let into the Capitol building by police.
Insurrection = Violent action by 3 or more persons with an organized purpose to overthrow or refute government as constituted.
As for The People vs. the US military in a internal civil war, ask yourself, what portion of the military would side with those wanting to overthrow the government? What part would refuse to participate? Then ask yourself if the military could last in operations if their network of civilian industry and suppliers weren't supplying them.
In a civil uprising, the general public doesn't have to go toe to toe with the military or police. There are plenty of other paths to rendering the government impotent and overthrowing it. There are alternatives to a purely armed insurrection or revolution as Eastern Europe and the Russians proved against their oppressive Communist governments.
Good point save for one thing: you fail to list how many of these groups have been linked to armed criminal actions....much less a Jan. 6th type action. Other than that you are correct that armed "leftist" groups do exist.
Into the Night
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America has more guns privately held than citizens. More citizens own guns than anywhere else in the world (about 112.6 per 100 people). Despite this, the States enjoy a homicide rate by guns of only 4.2 per 100,000 people.
Honduras as only 6.2 guns owned per 100 citizens. Despite this, Honduras has a homicide rate of 91.6 per 100,000 people; currently the highest in the world. Source: UNODC
No correlation, dumbass.
Yes we did. There were even gun clubs in schools. You brought your gun to school for gun club.
They had them in the midwest too.
No, your dad apparently taught you to be afraid of guns. You have hoplophobia.
Into the Night
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Jan 6th was instigated by leftists.
Saint Guinefort
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Thanks for ignoring the part of my post where I address that very point. I can see "reading" is not your forte
I grew up in a hunting community in a podunk rural town in the Midwest. We DIDN'T take our guns to school. I keep hearing gun nuts talk about "taking their guns to school back in tha day" and honestly I have to wonder: what kind of town did you grow up in?
Saint Guinefort
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Into the Night
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He did address your point, dumbass.
Schools used to have gun clubs. You took your gun to school for gun club. It happened all across the country, particularly in the midwest and western States. Remember, you grew up well after that. Presentism fallacy.
Saint Guinefort
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The old responsible gun owners meme. The guy whose son was in a diaper and was waving a gun, said he is a responsible gun owner. I suppose he is. You all are. As the body count climbs, you gun lovers can keep telling lies to us, and yourselves. But the numbers show the truth.