You are making little sense. Nobody has claimed what others had done had no impact.
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Annie
Not So Junior Member
This is when I wish you had 'rep'.
Laws? I'm unaware that any laws were passed.
The PMRC recommended that the music industry voluntarily put warning labels on albums with explicit lyrics.
This is hardly the type of thing that gives me a heart attack, and comtemplate an assault on the Constitution.
What laws were passed? I must be missing something.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
Which was my point... It can't be all Reagan's fault when he really did nothing toward it. You can keep repeating this inane stuff but it really does finally end with the fact that Reagan didn't actually do anything towards this....
So nobody passed any laws.
The PMRC advocated voluntary labels.
And Reagan went a step further, and said raunch music wasn't protected constitutionally.
Of those two options, PMRC's position is the more reasonable one.
oh, revisionism is occurring on this thread...imo!
it appears, especially with pat Buchanan on his team...., that the RR/moral majority and reagan were closely connected overall....and definately to this issue...
i just found this clip in my search on this...it's pretty funny!
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June 25, 1986
BRIEFING; Pornography and Laughter
By ROBIN TONER AND WARREN WEAVER JR.
Most bold new ideas in Government circles are either ignored or shuffled off into the bureaucratic process never to reappear, but once in a while a suggestion is simply laughed out of existence. The other day, President Reagan was meeting with senior staff members at the White House, and the recent report by the Attorney General's Commission on Pornography came up, according to one of the participants.
The commission majority had concluded that exposure to pornography ''bears some causal relationship to the level of sexual violence, sexual coercion or unwanted sexual aggression,'' and Patrick J. Buchanan, the White House director of communications, proposed that the Administration use this conclusion to ban the sale of Playboy and Penthouse from all post exchanges on military bases.
There was a long pause, and then, the source said, another White House official observed: ''Well, that would certainly do wonders for our recruiting program.'' The room burst into laughter, in which President Reagan enthusiastically joined, and the idea was not raised again.
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
it appears, especially with pat Buchanan on his team...., that the RR/moral majority and reagan were closely connected overall....and definately to this issue...
i just found this clip in my search on this...it's pretty funny!
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June 25, 1986
BRIEFING; Pornography and Laughter
By ROBIN TONER AND WARREN WEAVER JR.
Most bold new ideas in Government circles are either ignored or shuffled off into the bureaucratic process never to reappear, but once in a while a suggestion is simply laughed out of existence. The other day, President Reagan was meeting with senior staff members at the White House, and the recent report by the Attorney General's Commission on Pornography came up, according to one of the participants.
The commission majority had concluded that exposure to pornography ''bears some causal relationship to the level of sexual violence, sexual coercion or unwanted sexual aggression,'' and Patrick J. Buchanan, the White House director of communications, proposed that the Administration use this conclusion to ban the sale of Playboy and Penthouse from all post exchanges on military bases.
There was a long pause, and then, the source said, another White House official observed: ''Well, that would certainly do wonders for our recruiting program.'' The room burst into laughter, in which President Reagan enthusiastically joined, and the idea was not raised again.
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
oh, and this too...
this comes from a great article on censorship...
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/con04.htm
In 1985, President Reagan's Attorney General, Edwin Meese, convened
another commission, stating that "re-examination of the issue of
pornography is long overdue." The Meese Commission, chaired by a
zealous anti-pornography federal prosecutor, held public hearings at
which a parade of witnesses recounted tales of sexual abuse. The
commission then declared that it had established a link between such
abuse and pornography and proposed new censorship laws. Soon
afterwards several prominent scientists whose studies the
Commission's report had cited disassociated themselves from the
report, charging that their research had been misrepresented.
there is this too...
Question: ** Why does the ACLU
object to movie ratings, music labeling, or other voluntary rating
systems? Don't they give guidance to consumers, especially parents?
Answer: "Voluntary" is a misnomer, given that the movie rating and music
labeling systems were established to placate private pressure groups
bent on censorship. As one commentator put it, such systems "amount
to an elegant form of censorship--elegant because it is censorship
made to look like consumer information "
this comes from a great article on censorship...
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/con04.htm
In 1985, President Reagan's Attorney General, Edwin Meese, convened
another commission, stating that "re-examination of the issue of
pornography is long overdue." The Meese Commission, chaired by a
zealous anti-pornography federal prosecutor, held public hearings at
which a parade of witnesses recounted tales of sexual abuse. The
commission then declared that it had established a link between such
abuse and pornography and proposed new censorship laws. Soon
afterwards several prominent scientists whose studies the
Commission's report had cited disassociated themselves from the
report, charging that their research had been misrepresented.
there is this too...
Question: ** Why does the ACLU
object to movie ratings, music labeling, or other voluntary rating
systems? Don't they give guidance to consumers, especially parents?
Answer: "Voluntary" is a misnomer, given that the movie rating and music
labeling systems were established to placate private pressure groups
bent on censorship. As one commentator put it, such systems "amount
to an elegant form of censorship--elegant because it is censorship
made to look like consumer information "
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it was enough importance for you to start a THREAD on it krisy...just thought you REALLY wanted to know about the issue...sorry that you really didn't care about it...how was i to know that you post things that you really don't care about learning about, afterall, you are new to the site, and i hadn't pegged you as THAT TYPE YET?
i differ with my so called ''lib buddies'' on several democratic issues, fyi...
and since we're getting to ''know'' eachother...
do you ever differ with your "con compadres"?
care
It was important enough to start a thread on a message board. That should say it all,dear. It was in the whatever goes section at that. That would not qualify as important to me. Important is making sure my kids are healthy and taken care of. That my health is o.k.,same for the hubby. That I can pay my bills.
Your taking things way to serious. I'm not that worried about it. It was just a question about some rock n roll types(or non rock n roll types). SOo things on here are good things to be debated and some are just not that important. I mean,are all robdaman or whoever he is,are all his threads about gay dates important...not really,to me at least
And actually,I do occasionally stray from the right wing,but not on much,and I'm not ashamed of that.
I'm cool with what you found,there were Republicans involvolved too. They are all a holes for it IMO...see,I can critisize the right wing
ps, i'm 2 decades older than you 4 sure!...no need to call me dear, i've finally become accustomed to mam...
care
lol!!!
YES MAM!!!
Hope your having a good weekend...mam
lol!!!
YES MAM!!!
Hope your having a good weekend...mam
hahaha! I take it BACK! I still haven't become accustomed to it....my mind is 30 years behind my body, that's for certain!
Gaffer
Sanctimonious Prick
If you want to talk censorship you can go back a long ways. I will pick out just one. Under a democratic president by the way. In which the FBI got involved checking out the lyrics. It was banned in certain states and created a massive uproar throughout the country. It was sung by a guy who was not the regular singer of the group and who sang it standing five feet under the microphone and singing as loud as he could into the air. He was also not familar with the words and the song was recorded in one take. As a demo for a job on a cruise ship. They didn't get the job but had a great hit song and stirred up all sorts of censorship issues.
The song was Louie Louie by the kingsmens.
the democrats ruled the hill. Kennedy was in office. And censorship in movies and music was very prominent. even the word hell was banned from the radio.
Did I see that care4 uses wikipedia for research? Is that the same wikipedia that invites people to put in their own definitions of things and revise history as they see it wikipedia?
The song was Louie Louie by the kingsmens.
the democrats ruled the hill. Kennedy was in office. And censorship in movies and music was very prominent. even the word hell was banned from the radio.
Did I see that care4 uses wikipedia for research? Is that the same wikipedia that invites people to put in their own definitions of things and revise history as they see it wikipedia?
Sir Evil
Megalocon, The Evil Dick
LOL, you are gonna get their own definitions here like it or not, same ones you can read at every other democratic board for the most part. You can probably give her a slight more credibility then that though.
Is that the best you can do, is critique Wikipedia Gaffer? I said there were thousands of other links on the google search....? Did you bother even looking to see if they said the SAME as wikipedia? (shakes head)
you guys are really some rough mottley crew I tell ya....didn't know that people like you all really existed in the world.....guess that's what I get for living in my small little world of loving everyone...oh well....
Sir Evil
Megalocon, The Evil Dick
dunno who SR or what actually your other board is all about, could care less to tell ya the truth. Gonna call me a troll when ya bitch slap me to big man?