Into the Night
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The certainly try. That has been demonstrated time and time again.
It is not the only influence in government, however.
How Disgusting Are Big Corporations?
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The certainly try. That has been demonstrated time and time again.
It is not the only influence in government, however.
Hillary is not running, Sanders is. That is a fact, You know what that are?
TPP was actually a good plan. It was a trade agreement with Asian countries that dealt China out. Not all international trade agreements are bad.
PoliTalker
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"How Disgusting Are Big Corporations?"
Wait for it...
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Just a moment for effect...
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-Some of them supported Donald Trump for President.
Wait for it...
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Just a moment for effect...
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-Some of them supported Donald Trump for President.
Scut Farkus
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just in general, there's too much sending capacity overseas. "consumer society" or "post industrial" are stupid globalist concepts. its it creates lopsided nations that are too dependant, and have too few jobs. of course some are ok. like ones in our favor.
Corporations are as evil as we permit them to be. The founders chartered them with the understanding if they did things damaging to society, they would lose their charter. Many corporations of today would lose theirs. The corporate heads started back then to slowly take power and control. The idea that corporations are people is a terrible decision that the court never really made. Corporations should be under the power of the government.
Scut Farkus
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yes, as long as that government isnt also controlled by bankers or corporate oligarchs. the devil is in the details.
It is the function of the voters and people to select leaders who work for them. Not people like Trump. The government can fight corporations. You cannot. So it is incumbent on you and other voters to choose wisely. The old saw about crippling regulation is a great example. Corporations will turn the environment into a swamp to increase profits. There is almost nothing a person or people can do against their power. Those regulations were installed to protect the people and the environment. Yet many have been convinced that regulations are bad. It is a constant refrain sung by wealthy and corporations until many people have learned and sung the same lyrics. The government can be your friend and will fight for you. Corporations will not.
Scut Farkus
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we agree man. Im saying the government has to also not be also controlled by corporations. its just basic anti corruption. chill out.
PoliTalker
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Dirty greedy corporation trick number 4736:
Severance packages used to be a nice perk for dedicated workers who gave years of their lives to a corporation. They were offered as a benefit package in addition to a respectable salary in order to lure the best talent to work at a corporation.
But these days you don't see too many jobs that have a severance package. It is becoming unheard of any more. And worse, the jobs that do offer a severance package in reward for years of work, now only give it up with strings attached. It now frequently comes with a non-compete agreement and a NDA. The worker is not allowed to talk about the job done, nor contact any former workers who are still employed at the corporation, nor any of the customers or clients. The worker is also prevented from working for any competitors for a number of years. If the worker does not sign then the severance package is withheld. If the corporation determines the agreements have been violated it can sue the former worker to recover the severance package plus attorney fees and court costs.
The worker is essentially poofed from existence in the former working world. Any friendships which may have arisen out of years or even decades of work are erased. All for something that was once given with no strings attached.
That is how disgusting big corporations are.
Severance packages used to be a nice perk for dedicated workers who gave years of their lives to a corporation. They were offered as a benefit package in addition to a respectable salary in order to lure the best talent to work at a corporation.
But these days you don't see too many jobs that have a severance package. It is becoming unheard of any more. And worse, the jobs that do offer a severance package in reward for years of work, now only give it up with strings attached. It now frequently comes with a non-compete agreement and a NDA. The worker is not allowed to talk about the job done, nor contact any former workers who are still employed at the corporation, nor any of the customers or clients. The worker is also prevented from working for any competitors for a number of years. If the worker does not sign then the severance package is withheld. If the corporation determines the agreements have been violated it can sue the former worker to recover the severance package plus attorney fees and court costs.
The worker is essentially poofed from existence in the former working world. Any friendships which may have arisen out of years or even decades of work are erased. All for something that was once given with no strings attached.
That is how disgusting big corporations are.
In a sense, when you are not being paid by a company, they still own and control you. You are working for them for free.
PoliTalker
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Hello Nordberg,
Corporations want to be treated as people, but they treat real people as possessions.
If real people acted like corporations, their victims often seek court-mandated restraining orders.
Corporations want to be treated as people, but they treat real people as possessions.
If real people acted like corporations, their victims often seek court-mandated restraining orders.
In no way do I understand the corporations are people concept. Except it gives the corporations and their execs undeserved powers that continue decade after decade. They lobby and bribe for something. The house and senate change and die off. The lobbying and bribing continue. Eventually, they slip in what they wanted all along. That is what allowed Gramm to slip the Banking deregulation laws in which gave us a 2nd great depression to fight off.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Well the good news is we are going to fix that.
It is already happening.
The bad news is the fix is going to take a long time.
But that is understandable. Lots of meaningful change took a long time.
Here is how we are doing it, and you can help:
Scut Farkus
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public funding of elections means only the largest companies which run the government will have any say.
this just focuses corruption at the very top.
this just focuses corruption at the very top.
Mason Michaels
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Scut Farkus
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all donations capped at 500 bucks, and cannot be from companies or organizations. done. elections reformed.
Into the Night
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It is obvious you don't. You have no clue what the word 'fact' even means. It does not mean 'Universal Truth' or 'proof'.
It is not a fact. It is an argument.
Into the Night
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They are. They are also made up of people. They also enjoy all the rights of those people that make them up.
Into the Night
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There is no such thing as a 'corporate oligarch'. An oligarchy is a government structure, not a corporation or any part of a corporation. By your definitions, every home owner or business owner is a dictator.
The federal government is defined, organized, and controlled by the Constitution of the United States. Any deviation from that is the problem, not who is 'controlling it'.
The banks are controlled by the Federal Reserve, an unconstitutionally created central bank that is unconstitutionally given power to 'coin money' that is other than silver or gold.
Any government officer that is being paid by a corporation to make laws benefiting that corporation is breaking the law and the Constitution and should be treated as such.
Any government officer that is being paid by a foreign corporation or foreign government to favor that corporation or foreign government is breaking the law and the Constitution and should be treated as such.
Any court that tries to usurp power over the Constitution or tries to change the Constitution is breaking the law and the Constitution that created that court it, and should be treated as such.
Does it happen? Yes, unfortunately. One classic example is the laws passed by the Federal Government to benefit DuPont chemical, such as the 'ozone hole' laws. Laws that were paid for by DuPont chemical, which was losing the patents on R-12 refrigerant.
Into the Night
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Fine.
Trump is working for a lot of people. Have you ever seen one of his rallies?
It can fight you too. However, corporations have rights, just as you do. Corporations are made up of people.
You can. Stop buying from them. Many a corporation has been destroyed in this way.
No, you do not get to use government to dictate rights away from people or corporations.
It's an old saw, and one that is true. There are a lot of crippling regulations.
Turns out there is very little profit in that. I am also a corporation. Part of my business is to clean up swamps, rivers, air, etc. There's good money in it. I find corporations that pollute wind up going out of business.
Sure there is. You are a customer, are you not? YOU choose to be that customer!
The EPA is unconstitutional. Nothing gave Congress the authority to establish any such department, to define 'pollution', or to regulate naturally occurring gases.
Unconstitutional regulations ARE bad. Unconstitutionally created departments are even worse.
No, it is sung by patriots.
Corporations are also people. Never forget that. No corporation exists in a vacuum.
"O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light; what so proudly we hailed, at the twilight's last gleaming?"
It can also be your enemy and fight against you. Never forget that either.
Corporations must satisfy their customers, or they will have no customers. No customers means no profit. No profit means no more corporation. Corporations will fight for those customers to survive. They will fight for you, if you are their customer.