How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States

White Supremacist Extremists are the most dangerous terrorist threat in the US

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Gaslighting is when you take someone's position and attribute things to it they never said. I never mentioned Obama or Biden. I stated that many on the Left believe and say that Trump lies continuously (about things political in particular). I attribute that to their political positions being at odds with Trump's.

That isn't gaslighting. I was applying your logic so that you can understand your own logic.

Just Google "Trump lies continuously." It brings up a who's who of the MSM and Left.
If you do the same thing for "Biden lies continuously" It brings up a who's who of the Right in media.

Precisely the point of your logic.As I have stated, the claims are done with checking and merits, not because of politics.

The only difference I can see between the two is what they consider a "lie." The Left counts tens of thousands of Trump lies, like the WaPo:

See above. It has nothing to do with politics but with the fact that Trump lies so much.

30,573 lies according to them. That's roughly 21 lies per day for every day Trump was in office. Let's just call it a lie-an-hour...

And? You can see the list of Biden's lies here: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=joe-biden

So your claim is dismissed.
 
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Agreed on the threat. What are the casual factors and the solutions for problems?

Divisiveness isn't working out for the nation. Tolerance is better.

It's not us threatening our political rivals with guns and calling then "pedopiles" constantly.

Some people can't be reasoned with. We're just going to have to wait for them to die.
 
More gaslighting on your part. I think Obama, Biden and Trump all lie. They don't do it continuously or daily. I don't know if one does it more than another, but they all lie. All three have told some major whoppers too.

gaslighting is all liars have.

and they get so sprung when someone does it to them. so indignant.
 
White supremacists and others on the radical Right like sovereign citizens, anti-tax nutters, and the like are nowhere near the biggest domestic threat to the US. The Progressive Left and radical Left have trotted out this canard since before the Clinton era where we got to see just how insane the radical Left is when it gets power. During the Clinton era, we saw a massive attempt to crackdown on the radical Right. This resulted in the Ruby Ridge fiasco, Waco, arrests of various fringe militia group members numbering in the dozens, and the like. Most of these arrests went nowhere, but the high profile handling of these cases in government and media stirred the radical Right to action resulting in things like the Oklahoma City bombing.

Left alone, the crazies on the radical Right are mostly a threat to each other. They rarely get together to do anything other than in the smallest numbers. Provoked, they can be very dangerous individually and can rack up serious body counts.

On the other hand, the radical Left is far more dangerous on a much larger scale. Radical Leftists like BLM and Antifa produced riots with thousands taking part. They trashed whole city centers, caused dozens of deaths, thousands of serious injuries, and billions in property damage. They wrecked the lives of tens of thousands, at a minimum. In power, they know no bounds and will do virtually anything to retain power.

The radical Right will never come to serious political power. The radical Left has come to serious political power repeatedly during the last century. The results of their coming to power has included world wars, economic privation for billions, the deaths of as many as 100 million--at least--can be laid at their feet. There is no comparison between the radical Right where two or three guys--at most--do some act of violence killing maybe tens of people, with the radical Left destroying whole nations and killing millions.

Fucking ridiculous
 
Trump is the fish-story telling uncle. Democrats and the people in power now are deceptive snakes that want to hurt you. There's a big difference.

Trump is a has been shithead who is losing support by the day and will never again hold a position of power. And just how are democrats trying to hurt you?
 
Trump is a has been shithead who is losing support by the day and will never again hold a position of power. And just how are democrats trying to hurt you?

tough question......is what we've been through the last 18 months intentional or just the result of your incompetence?......
 
tough question......is what we've been through the last 18 months intentional or just the result of your incompetence?......

What we have been through is the same fucking thing we would have been through if Trump was president. Incredible that the right is stupid enough to think this inflation is the result of democrats. Every economist could tell you what caused it but the dumbfuck right winger screams it's the democrats!
 
What we have been through is the same fucking thing we would have been through if Trump was president. Incredible that the right is stupid enough to think this inflation is the result of democrats. Every economist could tell you what caused it but the dumbfuck right winger screams it's the democrats!

inflation is sourced in fuel costs, just as it was when Carter was president........prices started to climb as soon as Biden shut down the oil industry in January 2021.......oil prices began to drop as soon as he announced reopening lease sales.......the same thing happened under Bush (down) and under Obama.(up)......if you make speculation risky prices go down......
 
It's not us threatening our political rivals with guns and calling then "pedopiles" constantly.

Some people can't be reasoned with. We're just going to have to wait for them to die.

Ummmm.....more than a few LWers have threatened harm to political rivals although I don't recall any on JPP.

Agreed in irrationality. The older, Euro-American male members of JPP also tend to have mental disorders. Usually fear of dying and dementia, but a few are really psycho. They are, indeed, irrational and can't be reasoned with. That said, there's a few irrational LWers too. Ask me in PM if you want names but I think you can figure out who they are.

Patience is a virtue. Many will be gone before they are dead, simply because their capacity to participate has deteriorated so much they will become living zombies.
 
tough question......is what we've been through the last 18 months intentional or just the result of your incompetence?......

It's the result of a fucked up US COVID response and Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Like Pastor Swindoll's "Life is 10% of what happens to you and 90% how you react to it", both COVID and Putin's wars are beyond the control of our nation but We, the People, must react to it.

IMO, I think we're doing the best we can but it's a complex problem.

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What we have been through is the same fucking thing we would have been through if Trump was president. Incredible that the right is stupid enough to think this inflation is the result of democrats. Every economist could tell you what caused it but the dumbfuck right winger screams it's the democrats!

Agreed since both COVID and Putin's War are outside US control. We can only react to it.
 
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