I Agree With The Founders About Healthcare

How is it not a possibility?

Or is this the part of the conversation where I essentially have to take your word for it?

Why the fuck should I?

You can take or not take what you want. Facts don't care nor do they change based on your acceptance or denial of them.
 
Oh, you're one of those idiots that thinks an employee can be fired because the employer doesn't like their haircut?

Do some reading on what "right-to-work" means, asshole.

It means your boss can fire you for whatever reason, or for no reason at all.

For instance, if I sent your boss all these racists posts you make on company time, your boss could terminate your employment, but not tell you why.

That's "right-to-work".

And if your boss did that, who would then pay for your health care?
 
Do some reading on what "right-to-work" means, asshole.

It means your boss can fire you for whatever reason, or for no reason at all.

For instance, if I sent your boss all these racists posts you make on company time, your boss could terminate your employment, but not tell you why.

That's "right-to-work".

And if your boss did that, who would then pay for your health care?

Still assuming things you don't know, huh?

You assume lots of things.
 
No, this is a sea-lioning tactic that Conservatives use because they can't form a coherent argument about why the General Welfare clause wouldn't apply to health care.

You mean like the tactic to claim anything you're unwilling to do should be the responsibility of the government?
 
If you only knew what you thought you knew, you'd still be an idiot.

What's becoming clear is that you make up shit about yourself because you think it lends credibility to an argument that has no objective credibility, then you bristle and whine and screech when asked to verify any of the wild claims you make about yourself.

Then you go and change your story, inadvertently committing an unforced error by revealing you are one of the people who has someone else pay for their health care.

Fact is, your boss could fire your lazy, racist ass any time he wants, for any reason he wants, or for no reason at all. That's what "right-to-work" means, you fucking loser.

So if I sent all your racist posts that you made on company time to your boss, he could fire your lazy ass and not tell you why. Because that's his right.

Who would pay for your health care then?
 
What's becoming clear is that you make up shit about yourself because you think it lends credibility to an argument that has no objective credibility, then you bristle and whine and screech when asked to verify any of the wild claims you make about yourself.

Then you go and change your story, inadvertently committing an unforced error by revealing you are one of the people who has someone else pay for their health care.

Fact is, your boss could fire your lazy, racist ass any time he wants, for any reason he wants, or for no reason at all. That's what "right-to-work" means, you fucking loser.

So if I sent all your racist posts that you made on company time to your boss, he could fire your lazy ass and not tell you why. Because that's his right.

Who would pay for your health care then?

What's clear is you continue to make statements you simply don't understand how foolish they are when you make them.

I have things that are part of the compensation received that you can only dream of and beg having.
 
Just saying, the First Congress, and signed by John Adams, first mandated healthcare for sailors, both government employed, and privately employed, in 1798. It should also be noted that the Repugnant Party has attempted to mandate requirements for State medicaid programs to the detriment of the poor.

If left up to the right wing "conservatives" the only ones that would have health insurance would be the top 10-20% of society. Actually, I think it is pretty close to that now.

And then you need to read up on Benjamin Franklin, and healthcare for the poor:

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...in-franklin-have-to-do-with-obamacare/280735/

It is really a sorry state of affairs when one realizes that this so-called "christian nation" lacks the capacity for compassion that a deist like Franklin had:

"First: What were Franklin’s motivations for supporting the project?

In the Philadelphia Gazette on August 8, 1751, and reprinted in Franklin’s own 40-page account of the founding of the hospital (available online through the U.S. National Library of Medicine), Franklin offered one justification for his support: “This branch of charity seems essential to the true spirit of Christianity, and should be extended to all in general, whether deserving or undeserving, as far as our power reaches.”

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Your claims that my employer could stop at any time is based on a premise for which you have no understanding. That's all you need you to know.

No, it's based on the fact that you live in a state with "right to work" laws, which gives your employer the power to fire you without cause at any time.

So if I were to find out who your boss is and then send them all the racists posts you made on company time, your boss could fire your ass and not give you a reason why. Then who would pay for your health care, moocher?
 
Health care is not a state issue for the simple fact that a virus or bacteria doesn't recognize state borders, and people in Texas get the same kind of prostate cancer as people in Michigan.

And going the route of letting state and local governments negotiate for health care puts the bargaining power in the hands of the providers and drug companies, who can play the buyers off each other to increase fees.

:lolup:The "moron" is strong with this one. :rofl2:
 
General welfare clause.

SCOTUS 1938 decision upholding the Constitutionality of Social Security, from which Medicare was added as an amendment in 1965.

GO

FUCK

YOURSELF

:lolup:This is the most moronic leftist claim on the planet. You're too stupid to comprehend how lame that is. Dunce. :rofl2:
 
Your claims that my employer could stop at any time is based on a premise for which you have no understanding. That's all you need you to know.

What did I say before? That you would basically argue that I should take your word for it that your boss couldn't fire you at any time, despite living in a state where labor laws allow him to do so:

How is it not a possibility?

Or is this the part of the conversation where I essentially have to take your word for it?

Why the fuck should I?

So you say your boss pays for your health care, you also say that it's an impossibility that your boss could fire your lazy, racist ass at any time. So you say two things that are unverifiable on these boards, and I'm supposed to take your word for it? Why?
 
You have no clue yet you speak like someone with profound knowledge.

Well, you keep making up shit about yourself, then you change your story, then you expect me to accommodate that entitlement and take you at your word. Why the fuck should I? You've given me no reason to trust in anything you say.

The fact is that you live in a state where the labor laws make it possible for your boss to fire you for any reason, or for no reason at all, at any time.

Who would pay for your health care then if your boss decided to exercise his right to shitcan your racist, lazy ass?
 
Do some reading on what "right-to-work" means, asshole.

It means your boss can fire you for whatever reason, or for no reason at all.

For instance, if I sent your boss all these racists posts you make on company time, your boss could terminate your employment, but not tell you why.

That's "right-to-work".

And if your boss did that, who would then pay for your health care?

I would have to take some contention with this argument recognizing that CFM, and others of his stripe, are really too ignorant, and unable to learn, to comprehend what is said. "Right to work" laws simply guarantee that one has the right to a job without the requirement of joining a union. Here in Oregon we are an “employment-at-will” state. This means that either the employer, or the employee, may end the employment relationship at any time and for any reason, unless a law or contract provides to the contrary.

Another question one might raise with the ignorant useful idiot class is why have so many employers dropped health insurance for their employees since the Bush recession of 2007?

Next question would be if the worker has so many rights why is it that approximately 45 Million workers are now working two, or thee, jobs, and still cannot earn enough to provide for their families?
 
What about those that don't work and don't contribute

Like you!?!?!

Or like the elderly, children, veterans, and the disabled?

Are those the people you're referring to?

You keep coming back to this fantasy that there are millions of people who simply don't work, yet collect benefits. And when asked to provide actual figures that support that claim, you never do.
 
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