I am dissapointed in President Obama.

E=Onceler;969381]I actually do like Obama, though I have some strong disagreements w/ his policies. I don't love him though. Nor do I hate him with every fiber of my being, as you do.
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you love him dearly. your posts are quite clear on that. you defend with the upmost passion and give him credit for things that are due others.

Everything I listed is a positive in foreign policy; you ODSers don't want to give him credit for anything, but he DID end Iraq; he DID get Osama. His policies did work in places like Libya (an invasion just like Iraq!), and Egypt.
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more lies. i once made a thread that gave him major kudos for killing osama and thought it would help in 2012. and i supported his actions in libya. any more lies onceler? funny how you INGORE my questions regarding whose plan he followed. we both know why you're ignoring the question, but you're obama lover and must give him credit for following bush's plan. LOL


What about Syria? Like I told SF, there are still hot spots in the world, and their are still major problems.
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must defend obama....
 
Jeez - I really forgot how lame Yurt's replies can be whenever the discussion rises above any kind of insult-fest.

It's defending Obama to say that there are still problem areas in the world? I must've missed that campaign pledge where he promised to solve all of the planet's problems.

You guys are really blinded by hate. Once again, we're hanging out here on a thread with an alleged super-libby who is disappointed in Obama & looking for someone else to vote for, with another alleged super-libby who has already said he's not voting for Obama & deplores some of his policies.

You guys are a hoot. Just an FYI - that's what blind hate does to you.
 
the replies are "lame" because you can't rationally and intelligently respond to them. so you have to attack them. you're still running away from answering whose plan it was. that shows that in reality you're an obama lover because you can't answer a simple question because you know to do so would give bush credit and not obama. your BDS is pathetic.

you can't even say obama's policy on syria is a massive failure. oh no, you can only say that we can't solve everything in the world which is a non sequitur. that is defending obama. we helped egypt and libya, but can't do anything for nearby syria.

and how anything i said equates with hate is really dumb onceler. in reality it shows projection on your part.
 
No - the replies really are lame. And I'm not projecting anything, because I don't have hate for Obama like you do. I hate some of his policies, but I don't hate the guy.

Syria's a mess. What would you like America to do, Yurt? You just claimed his policy is a massive failure. I'd love to hear the alternatives.
 
It's funny how posters like Yurt & bravs want to give all kinds of credit to Bush on Iraq, but don't want to give him responsibility for creating the mess and instigating one of the worst foreign policy disasters in modern history.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if one out of every 15 people who voted for Obama in 2008 are disappointed in him and decide to stay home, does he have any chance of re-election?.....
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Depends on how disappointed those who voted for McCain are and how many of them decide to stay home.
 
Onceler said:
It's funny how posters like Yurt & bravs want to give all kinds of credit to Bush on Iraq, but don't want to give him responsibility for creating the mess and instigating one of the worst foreign policy disasters in modern history.
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you still can't answer the question. that shows how dishonest you are. it is absolutely dishonest to give obama all the credit for ending iraq when he simply followed an agreement already set in place by bush and iraq. it is not funny at all to point out that fact to hacks like you who want to ignore bush's role in ending iraq. i've repeatedly said bush handled iraq poorly, but once again onceler has to lie about what i actually said in order to make a point. why don't you try honest debate for once.

the very fact you continue to run away from the questions proves what a fool you are. i don't hate obama, that is a pure lie. i've always given obama his credit when deserves it. but you of course need to be dishonest about my positions and what i've actually said. you hate bush so much and love obama so much that you can't even bring yourself to admit the truth that obama followed an agreement set in motion by bush. that is truly pathetic and an excellent example of pure hackery.
 
cawacko said:
Don't be afraid to join the Revolution Onceler. You can join my buddy who e-mailed me this yesterday as part of a discussion we were having.


"Amen, people need to realize that there is very little difference between Romney and Obama. Neither of them give a crap about America. People treat politics like it’s a football game and just want to root for the winning team. I am voting Ron Paul and have promised to get 10 people to do the same. It’s been an easy sell so far.

And yes, he (Ron Paul) is kind of crazy"
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Apropos of nothing, I always wonder what people really mean when they say "(insert politician) doesn't give a crap about America."
 
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Rana said:
If that is the over meant these countries want, what right one's the USA have to intervene?

You seem to have the misconception that the USA rules the world.
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It doesn't matter what kind of government they WANT......I predict a hard line fanatic Islamic government is what they WILL get....
 
I just read the Romney "etch a sketch" story, love it. Thats my new nick name for Romney!

Hell, he is admitting what he is going to do to the Conservatives who support him, and they are still voting for him!
 
Onceler said:
Not one of those quotes you refer to mentions a full-scale invasion of Iraq. Not one.

Not one of the "debates" you mention about the resolution talked about a full-scale invasion of Iraq. Not a one.

The Iraq War is Bush's war, and his call - it always will be. You can rewrite history all you want on this board. It certainly doesn't matter.
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And the quotes don't have to mention "invasion" fool.......
If I say "I'm gonna get you" and then give you a broken nose" am I off the hook because I didn't say anything about "breading your nose" ?

Just how naive and stupid are you ? Can't you overcome being a hack for even a short time ?

It was called the "WAR RESOLUTION" for a reason.....usually something about WAR means WAR, fighting, killing, bombs, invasion, missiles, dead people......at least to those of us with a functioning brain.....

Is Obamacare not socialism because he didn't say the word out loud ?......
 
Um...bravs? It wasn't called the "war resolution."

Not worth even conversing about it further if you can't even start w/ some basic truth on that.
 
bravo said:
The war was debated and voted on by the full Congress of US.....and with a bi-partisan vote, passed.....
The war drums were beating from 1996 until Bush finally pulled the trigger in 2003......with congressional approval,
including Prominent Democrats voting for the WAR RESOLUTION.....and everyone KNEW it was a WAR RESOLUTION

Thats history in a nutshell....
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History in a nutshell is that Congress approved the war based on phony, ginned-up information provided by bush.
 
Superfreak said:
Congress is given the same intel briefings as the President. The intel does not come from the President, it comes from the intel agencies.
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Would you accept bravo's characterization that Congress forced Bush's hand on war, and that it was called the "war resolution"?
 
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