I thought the religious right hated Catholics?

Jarod said:
Guess I was wrong...

Baptist I know say they aren’t really questions.
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You GUESS YOU WERE WRONG? 2016 was not a practical lesson in pointing out your wrong THINKING? :dunno: You don't have to "guess".......the objective evidence points out THE SIMPLE TRUTH.

What "you think" is the very reason Mr. Trump now resides at 1600 Pa. Av. The vast majority of the (wink, wink) religious right simply supports the US Constitution as written in its guarantees of religious and speech rights. The so called "wall of separation" stops people such as yourself........LEFTWING bigoted fascists from interfering with any US Citizens right of choice. The so called religious right could care less about the faith professed by others as long as THE OTHERS do not attempt to institute restrictions upon THEIR OWN CHOICE OF RELIGIOUS FAITH. There is nothing in the US Constitution that forbids anyone from being a person of faith and a civil servant of THE PEOPLE. Thus the private letter addressed to Thomas Jefferson by a Baptist minister who had concerns that he federal government could pick one religion over another.....Mr. Jefferson assured this minister that type of ideology was IMPOSSIBLE because of the wall of separation build into the 1st amendment that provided FREEDOM OF RELIGION not freedom from religion.

The 1st amendment was drafted by THE PEOPLE/STATES to forbid the Federal Government from dictating to the states what is acceptable and what is not acceptable religions. This nation was founded because THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENTS of Europe mandated the states choice of religion upon THE PEOPLE (Roman Catholicism). There is nothing unacceptable with anyone adhering to a Catholic based faith.......as long as that is a free will individual choice as protected by the 1st amendment. You do not have FREEDOM "from" RELIGION.......the PEOPLE possess FREEOM "of" RELIGION. Read the damn constitution which was drafted at an 8th grade comprehension level. Who is prohibited from interfering with anyone's religion? The Federal Congress.

Logical Thinking and Reasoning among left wingers is about a compatible as attempting to mix oil and water....no? :bigthink: To vote for anyone........you do not have to agree with their religious choices........but you have to agree with their commitment to preserving the rights found in the US CONSTITUTION.....which protects ALL THE PEOPLE regardless of individual personal beliefs. It even protects YOUR RIGHT of being a faithless based asshole......you simply can't force your choice upon everyone.....group or MOB thinking such as exists in all forms of Communism...i.e., SOCIALISM....which mandates that everyone should be forced to conform to the STATES choices....or be punished....by....such events as rioting, looting, burning this MFer to the ground...etc.,

Ain't MARXISM a wonderful religion.......for assholes?
 
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Celticguy said:
Bad example

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/02/casey-abortion-pennsylvania-midterms-689505
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Yeah........the left tell us......not everyone on the left is pro choice. The reality of the facts conclude with the truth if you support a party that thinks its ok to kill children in the womb, then.... via proxy of your vote, you are just as guilty as the ones committing the act. They tell us that not everyone on the left supports perversion.......yet such legislation as exists in the state of California ..etc., could not exist void of party support as this is a representative republic.

For instance....slavery existed in this republic until the constitution was amended about 100 years after its founding, why? Because the majority of the voters in this republic openly supported slavery and made laws to reflect that support. The same applies to abortion on demand.:bigthink: With the objective truth..........there never was represented law that allowed abortion on demand before a radical SCOTUS in 1973 changed legal precedent void of any REPRESENTATIN FROM THE PEOPLE. The left declares that if Roe v. Wade is overturned it will end women's right of choice.... that is not true. Even if Roe v. Wade is overturned.....it will mean that Abortion on Demand is no longer a blanket FEDERAL LAW but will be left up to the people of each state to choose for themselves what the will of the people actually is........the same reason that the sin of Flesh Peddling was allowed to exist in this nation for so long (as the democrats...the historical party of slavery... held majority power in the slave states). Immoral people make immoral laws......laws do not establish morality, laws reflect the morality of the people. That's how a representative republic works. It can work no other way if a free state of existence for the people is to remain.
 
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Legion said:
It's hilarious that you picked the Daily Caller site, when the ultra-leftist Washington Post and your usual go-tos also reported on it.

And Steeler Nation? :rofl2:
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Jarod said:
Guess I was wrong...

Baptist I know say they aren’t really *christians.
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*christians... (fixing that for you)

I do know that the church I grew up in would say that "most Catholics" are not Christian, but some are... It would depend on whether they are "born again" and Catholic or if they are not to that group of folks. However, they would not assume that just because you are Catholic you are not Christian.
 
Damocles said:
*christians... (fixing that for you)

I do know that the church I grew up in would say that "most Catholics" are not Christian, but some are... It would depend on whether they are "born again" and Catholic or if they are not to that group of folks. However, they would not assume that just because you are Catholic you are not Christian.
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That makes sense, thank you for the clarification.
 
Wolverine said:
Non White Immigration? So no other ethnicity should be allowed to immigrate? Tough words for the computer calling someone that!
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Only white ethnicities should be allowed to immigrate. So that's something we agree on.
Do you think it's sad that you don't have the balls to admit that, even online?
 
Chaz said:
Catholics take communion via the eucharist. Progressives take communion via the fetus.
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Bishop Zubik tells Pittsburgh Catholics he cannot tell them how to vote

Pittsburgh — Bishop David A. Zubik of Pittsburgh told Catholics in the diocese in a preelection message that he cannot tell them whom to vote for on Election Day.
In a Sept. 22 letter to the diocese, Zubik said the church must focus on "addressing issues grounded on our faith and tradition" while calling the election "perhaps the most contentious in the course of our lifetime."

He urged Catholics to carefully discern their vote as Nov. 3 approaches because neither major political party platforms fully reflect church teaching.

"I must take this opportunity to speak to our voting rights as more than simply pulling a lever, pressing a button or sending a ballot in the mail," he wrote. "Our vote is one that must be viewed as a moral decision."

Describing "life issues" as major concerns facing the country, Zubik said the most serious threats to human life are abortion, racism, the environmental crisis, human trafficking, unemployment, appropriate medical coverage, the death penalty, religious freedom, the plight of immigrants and poverty. These are among those deserving careful consideration by voters, he said...

He also said he had sent a separate letter to priests and deacons in the diocese, as he had during previous presidential elections, reminding them "not to speak for or against any candidate, particularly from the pulpit."

Zubik said that letter reminded the clergy their role is to "carry out the teaching mission of the church, which involves educating people about issues relating to church teaching and the importance of voting with an informed and well-formed conscience."

The bishop also cautioned voters in the diocese that not all materials they will receive from various organizations "claiming to be Catholic" during the preelection season reflect the "fullness of Catholic teaching."

"Some of these may distort and misstate Catholic teaching or advocate for the election of one candidate over another," he said.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/parish/bishop-zubik-tells-pittsburgh-catholics-he-cannot-tell-them-how-vote
 
christiefan915 said:
Bishop Zubik tells Pittsburgh Catholics he cannot tell them how to vote

Pittsburgh — Bishop David A. Zubik of Pittsburgh told Catholics in the diocese in a preelection message that he cannot tell them whom to vote for on Election Day.
In a Sept. 22 letter to the diocese, Zubik said the church must focus on "addressing issues grounded on our faith and tradition" while calling the election "perhaps the most contentious in the course of our lifetime."

He urged Catholics to carefully discern their vote as Nov. 3 approaches because neither major political party platforms fully reflect church teaching.

"I must take this opportunity to speak to our voting rights as more than simply pulling a lever, pressing a button or sending a ballot in the mail," he wrote. "Our vote is one that must be viewed as a moral decision."

Describing "life issues" as major concerns facing the country, Zubik said the most serious threats to human life are abortion, racism, the environmental crisis, human trafficking, unemployment, appropriate medical coverage, the death penalty, religious freedom, the plight of immigrants and poverty. These are among those deserving careful consideration by voters, he said...

He also said he had sent a separate letter to priests and deacons in the diocese, as he had during previous presidential elections, reminding them "not to speak for or against any candidate, particularly from the pulpit."

Zubik said that letter reminded the clergy their role is to "carry out the teaching mission of the church, which involves educating people about issues relating to church teaching and the importance of voting with an informed and well-formed conscience."

The bishop also cautioned voters in the diocese that not all materials they will receive from various organizations "claiming to be Catholic" during the preelection season reflect the "fullness of Catholic teaching."

"Some of these may distort and misstate Catholic teaching or advocate for the election of one candidate over another," he said.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/parish/bishop-zubik-tells-pittsburgh-catholics-he-cannot-tell-them-how-vote
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One day you'll find a bishop who loves abortion as much as you do. And racism.
 
Damocles said:
*christians... (fixing that for you)

I do know that the church I grew up in would say that "most Catholics" are not Christian, but some are... It would depend on whether they are "born again" and Catholic or if they are not to that group of folks. However, they would not assume that just because you are Catholic you are not Christian.
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I briefly attended a church like that when I was in my 20s. You're right. In addition, the ppl in the church that I went to told me that *I* wasn't a true Christian either, for the same reason. As a non-"born again" Lutheran I wasn't really one, and needed to be re-baptized.
 
ThatOwlCoward said:
Other evangelicals I know don't even believe that Catholics are actually Xtians.
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Because they are correctly referring to those who worship Global Warming like you. One cannot be Christian if one is worshiping other gods, stupid ones to boot.

ThatOwlCoward said:
But they'll swallow that Catholic lady if Toadstool tells them to.
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You'll believe whatever violation of physics you are told to believe after it is reamed into you and you beg for more. Then you'll pretend you're good Christian.

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ThatOwlWoman said:
The ones I know definitely hate them. One example: My fundie sister-in-law & family moved to Houma LA a couple years ago for a job her husband had. They have a 13-yr-old son who has never attended any schools other than fundie Xtian ones. They searched and searched to find one there in mostly-Catholic bayou land. When I innocently suggested a parish school she recoiled in horror and said she'd rather send him to the terrible (her word) local public school. Other evangelicals I know don't even believe that Catholics are actually Xtians.

But they'll swallow that Catholic lady if Toadstool tells them to. After all, they pretend he is not an atheist, adulterous lecher who cheats on taxes, wives, taxpayers, contractors, and them.
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She is part of the ecumenical effort.
 
StoneByStone said:
Only white ethnicities should be allowed to immigrate. So that's something we agree on.
Do you think it's sad that you don't have the balls to admit that, even online?
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How does one determine whether one is a "white ethnicity"? How can my children determine whether they are "white ethnicity" so they can know whether they should be allowed to immigrate?
 
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