I’m changing my party affiliation

T. A. Gardner said:
Saying so, without explanation is meaningless. It is you that needs to open your mind.

The Democrats are clearly moving towards both Statist Capitalism and Socialism in their policy choices. They want a large welfare state that provides cradle to grave government run programs for those in it, and society in general. They would clearly socialize large sectors of the economy, like health care turning it into a government run national program with few alternatives except for the rich.
They clearly want public education to be more about indoctrination and politicialization than giving those in it an education.
They put politically motivated programs ahead of market forces and what works according to science, engineering, and outcomes. Their positions on Gorebal Warming are an excellent example of that.
The Democrats clearly want to control the outcomes of elections and make it so they can retain permanent power.

How are the Democrats not a party of the Left?
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I have explained multiple times, even to you. But people here for known reasons chose to ignore them.
 
AProudLefty said:
No they are not correct in their assessment. The fact that you cannot see the lie is what the problem is. Be more open minded.
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Concart said:
I don't think we want him on our side if he thinks what is happening with Republicans is positive. They have no platform and no legislative agenda. They are literally the party of no ideas.
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ThatOwlWoman said:
What change do you think you see in the Republican party? And why register for any of them? Why not just vote your conscience, vote for the best candidate no matter what letter comes after his/her name?
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That was my question. I'm not sure what changes are occurring in the Republican Party.

Many people register a party affiliation because you cannot vote in the party's primary without being a registered member in many states.
 
anonymoose said:
Been a card carrying Libertarian for about 23 years now and haven’t voted for a winner in a national election during that time.
I will register as a democrat or a Republican but can’t decide.
If democrat I could vote for the most qualified candidates and help out the party. E.g., I liked Tsongas back in the day. When I was a kid too young to vote I liked Eugene McCarthy, the anti-war candidate. O’Malley was far better than hrc (who wasn’t?). Maybe woulda voted for him over Johnson had he been the nominee. Or I could hurt the party and vote for the worst possible but dems already are very consistent in doing that without my help.
If I register as a Republican I can be part of a real and positive change that’s seems to be occurring within the party.
What to do? :dunno:
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Let me give you a little shortcut to the chase as you make your decision!

If you want to preserve Democracy- the decision is clear!

And I would certainly like to invite you to give the Democrats a try. We certainly have our problems, but we are a Big Tent party and even the most conservative thinkers have a place in our party and are certainly welcome! As long as you are an optimist and a pragmatic we want you to be a part of our party.

You don't have to make a lifetime commitment!

But until the Republicans prove they are pro-Democracy, respect the law, and stop with all of the TRUMP infused crazyness- it is a safer place to hang your hat!
 
anonymoose said:
Been a card carrying Libertarian for about 23 years now and haven’t voted for a winner in a national election during that time.
I will register as a democrat or a Republican but can’t decide.
If democrat I could vote for the most qualified candidates and help out the party. E.g., I liked Tsongas back in the day. When I was a kid too young to vote I liked Eugene McCarthy, the anti-war candidate. O’Malley was far better than hrc (who wasn’t?). Maybe woulda voted for him over Johnson had he been the nominee. Or I could hurt the party and vote for the worst possible but dems already are very consistent in doing that without my help.
If I register as a Republican I can be part of a real and positive change that’s seems to be occurring within the party.
What to do? :dunno:
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the only reason to identify is to vote in primaries. As you suggest there are two ways to participate.
Either as a sandbag or because you do have a preference.
Sandbagging seems to work best below national level (prez) where there is actual competition.
From your stated view it would seem to make more sense to opt for the GOP.
The donkeys will never nominate anyone tolerable again and if they should surprise everyone by doing so you can always vote for them. Registering does not require you to vote that way.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You can go back to the French Revolution of 1805 and find the same thing. A Leftist dictatorship bent on imposing its will on all of Europe.
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What was the French Revolution of 1805, Gardener? That was a year after Napoleon crowned himself Emperor. He was certainly bent on imposing his will on all of Europe, but in what way was he Left?

ADDED The same goes for Hitler: he wasn't left either. He would never have made it past President Hindenburg and the army in 1933 if they had seriously thought he was left. But nothing I can say will stop you riding your hobby horse on that.
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
Your choice is between a Democrat party that is becoming a party of the Left and a Republican party that at the moment is a bit schizophrenic because of Trump but is normally somewhere just Left of Center.

The Left has a long and thoroughly documented history of fucking EVERYTHING they touch up and causing untold woe and misery to hundreds of millions, even billions, worldwide. With the Left in charge in the US, America as it was intended by the founders is dead and finished. At least with the Republicans we can put that off for a maybe as much as another 50 to 100 years.
You are seeing the Left in action in the US today and they don't even have full control. Open borders, increasing poverty, shortages of goods, the lowest labor participation rates in history, more rules regulations, rampant crime, increasing black markets, inflation, and every other negative a society could not want. But they're all there and in just a year of having Biden in office.
Your registration really doesn't matter as much as who you vote for. If you intend to vote Progressive Leftist, then you are voting to doom the nation and yourself to a life of deprivation and misery even as the top 1 or 2% continue to live in opulence.
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Oh please stop with the hateful misconceptions! You are an example of why people should be jumping ship with the Republicans.

And your expressed hatred and insane rhetoric is the reason why we are recruiting millions of Republicans to vote along with us until TRUMP goes away for the good of the Country!
 
Flash said:
That was my question. I'm not sure what changes are occurring in the Republican Party.

Many people register a party affiliation because you cannot vote in the party's primary without being a registered member in many states.
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I see. I'd rather not vote in the primary then if that's the case. Registering for a party kind of negates the whole "secret ballot" thing in my mind.

The only changes I've seen in the (R) party is their steadfast allegiance to trumpism. As Lefty pointed out, they have no platform, no principles, no ideas, no solutions.
 
Truth Detector said:
FDR was a glaring failure for all intents and purposes, not to mention he began the unconstitutional federal power grab we have seen over the last 76 years.
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Indeed. And the media hid the fact that he had a crippling disability from the public.

I see a contemporary parallel.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
What was the French Revolution of 1805, Gardener? That was a year after Napoleon crowned himself Emperor. He was certainly bent on imposing his will on all of Europe, but in what way was he Left?
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Stop picking nits. If I got the year wrong, the concept remains. The French Revolution that ended with Napolean taking power was Leftist.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The Left had nothing to do with that other than start it. Remember, the most Leftist governments at the time were Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany, and Stalin's Russia.
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Ah, that's what you are, one of the word misnomer "Nineteen Eighty-Four" types the Net has been spawning, and who would be gently dismissed as bonkers from any history studies program.
 
anonymoose said:
Been a card carrying Libertarian for about 23 years now and haven’t voted for a winner in a national election during that time.
I will register as a democrat or a Republican but can’t decide.
If democrat I could vote for the most qualified candidates and help out the party. E.g., I liked Tsongas back in the day. When I was a kid too young to vote I liked Eugene McCarthy, the anti-war candidate. O’Malley was far better than hrc (who wasn’t?). Maybe woulda voted for him over Johnson had he been the nominee. Or I could hurt the party and vote for the worst possible but dems already are very consistent in doing that without my help.
If I register as a Republican I can be part of a real and positive change that’s seems to be occurring within the party.
What to do? :dunno:
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Best option, don't register with any political party, then you will spare yourself the request for funds and truckload of campaign literature you get every election year
 
Legion said:
Indeed. If one DEMOCRAT laid a smaller turd in the punch bowl than another than DEMOCRAT did, I still wouldn't drink the punch. Would you?
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Humorous, "copy and paste" responding to his own post, kinda like talking to yourself via the keyboard
 
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