Is Climate Change Possible Redux

[IBDaMann]

I'm not trying to stop it from being admitted.

Then address them.

You and others are are accepting eyewitness testimony, in many cases from a single person

Nope. You are well aware of massive number of compelling eye witnesses who signed detailed sworn affidavits.

, as unquestioned reality, while ignoring all information to the contrary.

You aren't providing any information. You are doubting eyewitness testimony because it's not what you want to hear/read

 

[Daylight63]

CO2 has risen about .003% in the last century and now sits at about .042% of our atmosphere having risen from about .039% a century or so ago.

At the same time, water vapor in the form of clouds from contrails has risen from zero (0.0) in roughly 1940 to .40% today. Most of these contrails are concentrated in the Northern hemisphere and guess what? Most warming due to climate change is occurring in the Northern hemisphere...

Now, reducing contrails to near zero is a relatively easy and quick fix. Reducing CO2 is expensive and requires lots of government intervention.

One thing to remember about how H2O and CO2 work in the atmosphere is that they are controlled by VERY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS.

When you put a lot of extra H2O into the atmosphere you are, indeed, increasing a greenhouse gas. BUT excess H2O can RAPIDLY re-equilibrate back to normal levels via things like RAIN or SNOW. This is called the HYDROLOGIC CYCLE. It is very fast.

When you put extra CO2 in the atmosphere it takes a MUCH longer time to lower that back down because CO2 is managed by the CARBON CYCLE which requires a lot of effort and time to "fix" the carbon in the atmosphere in things like plants and dissolving into the ocean (a buffered system) or being fixed in the soil.

This is why scientists call CO2 a FORCING and H2O a FEEDBACK (since higher temps will result in higher H2O)

 

[ZenMode]

Getting it on the record that I have answered your question many times in the past. We have also reviewed excerpts from the affidavits, so your disingenuous question should not be asked.

Getting it on the record that the affidavits answer your question and support every statement I have made on the subject.

Getting it on the record, again, that this is a response, not an answer to my question.

Trying again ...

What do the affidavits say?

You're the one making the claims based on the affidavits. YOU tell ME what they say? YOU provide links to them and I'll be happy to read them. So far, all we've discussed is the truck driver who drove in circles, delivering nothing, and we have nutter butter Melissa Carone.

What else do you have ?

 

[ZenMode]

Then address them.

Address what? You keep talking about these affidavits, but haven't provided them.

Nope. You are well aware of massive number of compelling eye witnesses who signed detailed sworn affidavits.

No, I'm not.

You aren't providing any information. You are doubting eyewitness testimony because it's not what you want to hear/read

What eyewitness testimony? I'm only aware of three. The truck driver who THINKS he has ballots, but only drives in circles and never delivers them. Melissa Carone who is apparently insane. Rudy Giuliani who "witnessed" magical suitcases of Biden ballots and is now turning over his penthouse because of the false accusations he made based on what he thought he witnessed.

 

[Daylight63]

Stefan-Boltzmann has everything to do with the earth's average global equilibrium temperature remaining unaffected by changes in atmospheric composition

That's not correct. Stefan Boltzmann shows what the blackbody temperature of the earth would be without greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. It is MUCH lower than the actual surface temperature of the earth. That's because of greenhouse gases.

It is one of the big indicators of how greenhouse gases work in an atmosphere.

 

[Lao Tse]

I'm not trying to stop it from being admitted. You and others are are accepting eyewitness testimony, in many cases from a single person, as unquestioned reality, while ignoring all information to the contrary.

and you're trying to get evidence barred for no good reason.

On the topic of non-citizens voting (also posted above):

No, only citizens should be able to vote.

are your for voter ID?

 

[Lao Tse]

That's not correct. Stefan Boltzmann shows what the blackbody temperature of the earth would be without greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. It is MUCH lower than the actual surface temperature of the earth. That's because of greenhouse gases.

It is one of the big indicators of how greenhouse gases work in an atmosphere.

bottom line, reducing co2 kills plants, the food supply for all other life on earth.

greenhouse bullshit is a political movement to starve humanity.

how do you feel about population reduction?

 

[ZenMode]

and you're trying to get evidence barred for no good reason.


are your for voter ID?

So, are you ok with youngkin removing legal voters from the voter rolls? That's why he was required to undo what he did. There were legal voters in the list of 1600 "non-citizens".

 

[Lao Tse]

So, are you ok with youngkin removing legal voters from the voter rolls? That's why he was required to undo what he did. There were legal voters in the list of 1600 "non-citizens".

that's fictitious.

they are illegal.

 

[ZenMode]

that's fictitious.

they are illegal.

Nope. Again, Youngkin was required to undo the purging BECAUSE legal voters were found in the 1600. Georgia thought they had about 170 non-citizens on voter rolls. It ended up they had 20. Had they purged based on what they THOUGHT they had, 150 legal voters would have been purged.

Are you ok with that?

 

[Lao Tse]

Nope. Again, Youngkin was required to undo the purging BECAUSE legal voters were found in the 1600. Georgia thought they had about 170 non-citizens on voter rolls. It ended up they had 20. Had they purged based on what they THOUGHT they had, 150 legal voters would have been purged.

Are you ok with that?

no they weren't.

stop lying.

 

[ZenMode]

no they weren't.

stop lying.

yes... they actually were. You can't create your own reality by denying what is true.

Nadra Wilson of Lynchburg, Va., was concerned and confused when she received a letter in the mail from local election officials notifying her that her U.S. citizenship was in question.

The notice said she needed to affirm she was a U.S. citizen within 14 days or her voter registration would be canceled. It was first sent to an old address and then was forwarded. By the time Wilson received it in October, the deadline had passed.

But Wilson was puzzled by the letter. "I was born in Brooklyn, N.Y. — I'm a citizen," Wilson said in an interview with NPR before showing her American passport as proof.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5169204/virginia-noncitizen-voter-purge

 

[Lao Tse]

yes... they actually were. You can't create your own reality by denying what is true.

Nadra Wilson of Lynchburg, Va., was concerned and confused when she received a letter in the mail from local election officials notifying her that her U.S. citizenship was in question.

The notice said she needed to affirm she was a U.S. citizen within 14 days or her voter registration would be canceled. It was first sent to an old address and then was forwarded. By the time Wilson received it in October, the deadline had passed.

But Wilson was puzzled by the letter. "I was born in Brooklyn, N.Y. — I'm a citizen," Wilson said in an interview with NPR before showing her American passport as proof.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5169204/virginia-noncitizen-voter-purge

not getting your shit done in time is a different issue.

she's tardy.

you snooze you lose.

 

[ZenMode]

not getting your shit done in time is a different issue.

she's tardy.

you snooze you lose.

Again, in your opinion it's ok to purge American citizens from the voter rolls, less than a month before the election, and then put it on them?

 

[Lao Tse]

Again, in your opinion it's ok to purge American citizens from the voter rolls, less than a month before the election, and then put it on them?

no.
that lady didn't respond in time to the curing of her ballot.

 

[Daylight63]

bottom line, reducing co2 kills plants, the food supply for all other life on earth.

Again, an oversimplification. Increasing CO2 does increase "plant food" but it also raises the temperature and that can negatively impact the plants. There was a study that looked into the "fertilization" effect of added CO2 and found that it would NOT necessarily lead to better outcomes for plants and animals overall.

Here's a summary of the work: long story short, no reason to believe that increasing CO2 will be a net benefit for us.

Plants cannot live on CO2 alone

<p>The effects of enhanced CO₂ on terrestrial plants are variable and complex and dependent on numerous factors</p>

skepticalscience.com

greenhouse bullshit is a political movement to starve humanity.

Incorrect.

how do you feel about population reduction?

Not really worth a response on this one since I know the game you are playing with the question. Let's stick with the science and leave the hyperventilating accusations of genocide and mass murder in the garbage can for a bit longer, shall we?

 

[Lao Tse]

Again, in your opinion it's ok to purge American citizens from the voter rolls, less than a month before the election, and then put it on them?

if they failed to respond by the deadline to their ballot curing or are not citizens, yes.

you want non-citizens voting.

you're a globalist traitor.

 

[ZenMode]

if they failed to respond by the deadline to their ballot curing or are not citizens, yes.

you want non-citizens voting.

you're a globalist traitor.

This has nothing to do with ballot curing. This is cancelling her registration and cancelling her ability to vote. Again, you're ok with the government cancelling voters registration less than a month before the election?

The notice said she needed to affirm she was a U.S. citizen within 14 days or her voter registration would be canceled

 

[Lao Tse]

This has nothing to do with ballot curing. This is cancelling her registration and cancelling her ability to vote. Again, you're ok with the government cancelling voters registration less than a month before the election?

The notice said she needed to affirm she was a U.S. citizen within 14 days or her voter registration would be canceled

there are processes to keep rolls valid.

she fell through the cracks.

that's regrettable, but the solution is not to have no curing process or any rules at all.

 

[Daylight63]

Sorry to ask this: what do voter rolls have to do with climate change? Am I missing something?