Is fascism left wing?

BidenPresident said:
Every historian states that fascism is a right wing movement. No surprise stupid right wingers never studied history.
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You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for you. You are not a historian. Omniscience fallacy. Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that never studied history, including the history of any word.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
China went fascist. They adopted Statist Capitalism as an economic system, became very nationalistic, racist, and paranoid. They didn't move to the Right one iota, but rather just changed position on the radical Left.
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Most major Chinese industries are still state owned. Market capitalism is to the right of state socialism.

To call fascism left-wing is contrary to all historical and political definitions.
 
Flash said:
Most major Chinese industries are still state owned. Market capitalism is to the right of state socialism.

To call fascism left-wing is contrary to all historical and political definitions.
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Fascist governments often end up owning the largest corporations simply because the statist capitalist system and greed of the government leadership push them that direction. In Nazi Germany, the largest aircraft manufacturer in the 1930's was Junkers. The Nazis took the corporation over because it was supposedly poorly run. The next thing you know, the Nazi leadership is getting rich somehow...

I don't want this to be partisan, but a clear example in the news recently of this sort of shit is the Pelosi's suddenly buying in to stock of a company that was about to benefit from new government laws and regulations. Not that it was the first time, or that it was just the Pelosi's. Same thing. Variants on Statist Capitalism which always ends up thoroughly corrupt, just as having Communist total control of the economy does.
 
Women - 2nd class
Gays - 3rd class
Pure breed
Blacks - 2nd class
Christian Nationalism
Banning books
Revising history
Propaganda
Corporation owned
 
AProudLefty said:
Women - 2nd class
Gays - 3rd class
Pure breed
Blacks - 2nd class
Christian Nationalism
Banning books
Revising history
Propaganda
Corporation owned
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More like:

Select minorities = enemies of the state
All religion except state-controlled religion is banned (if there is any religion allowed at all)
Rampant militarism is the norm
Books and other forms of culture the state disapproves of are banned
Massive state intrusion into private lives
The state controls the economy directly or indirectly
Indoctrination and propaganda are the norm, particularly in education.

All of that is blatantly and rampantly Leftist.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
More like:

Select minorities = enemies of the state
All religion except state-controlled religion is banned (if there is any religion allowed at all)
Rampant militarism is the norm
Books and other forms of culture the state disapproves of are banned
Massive state intrusion into private lives
The state controls the economy directly or indirectly
Indoctrination and propaganda are the norm, particularly in education.

All of that is blatantly and rampantly Leftist.
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Nope.
 
AProudLefty said:
Nope.
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Absolutely.

Select minorities = enemies of the state: China, Uyghurs. Soviet Union Cossacks. US White male cisgenders.
All religion except state-controlled religion is banned (if there is any religion allowed at all): Self obvious.
Rampant militarism is the norm: Military parades. Massive military build ups. Nazi Germany, China, Soviet Union, even Venezuela
Books and other forms of culture the state disapproves of are banned: Again, self-obvious. Example: Banning conservative voices on social media.
Massive state intrusion into private lives: China's social credit system. ESG investing.
The state controls the economy directly or indirectly. Heavy subsidies. Laws that ban certain industries or heavily regulate them.
Indoctrination and propaganda are the norm, particularly in education. CRT, Critical Pedagogy, Social and Economic Justice theories.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Absolutely.

Select minorities = enemies of the state: China, Uyghurs. Soviet Union Cossacks. US White male cisgenders.
All religion except state-controlled religion is banned (if there is any religion allowed at all): Self obvious.
Rampant militarism is the norm: Military parades. Massive military build ups. Nazi Germany, China, Soviet Union, even Venezuela
Books and other forms of culture the state disapproves of are banned: Again, self-obvious. Example: Banning conservative voices on social media.
Massive state intrusion into private lives: China's social credit system. ESG investing.
The state controls the economy directly or indirectly. Heavy subsidies. Laws that ban certain industries or heavily regulate them.
Indoctrination and propaganda are the norm, particularly in education. CRT, Critical Pedagogy, Social and Economic Justice theories.
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So Florida is a Leftist state?
 
AProudLefty said:
How is it a strawman? DeSantis had books banned. Gerrymandering. Teachers must teach DeSantis approved courses. No history of slavery. And so on. You don't watch news?
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So? The books were filled with indoctrination and radical Leftist propaganda. We had a long discussion here on that. Gerrymandering? The worst cases are New York and Illinois, both Democrat run states. That's hardly a valid example. Many states have state approved curricula. Are you saying California's radical Leftist state curricula is exempt? It's obvious, that you do watch the news.

Just remember, if you get your news from television, you aren't getting the news.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So? The books were filled with indoctrination and radical Leftist propaganda. We had a long discussion here on that. Gerrymandering? The worst cases are New York and Illinois, both Democrat run states. That's hardly a valid example. Many states have state approved curricula. Are you saying California's radical Leftist state curricula is exempt? It's obvious, that you do watch the news.

Just remember, if you get your news from television, you aren't getting the news.
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What radical Leftist propaganda?
 
Into the Night said:
Fascism does not mean nationalism.
You have wandered into a paradox. You have stated that fascism is international, and now are stating that it is nationalism. Which is it, dude? Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational.
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libs and neocon globalist traitors say it does.

fascism is the combination of state and corporate power.

it can be used to strengthen or weaken a nation.

it can be nationalist or internationalist (or post nationalist as the uppity say)..
 
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AProudLefty said:
What exactly is a LGBTPDQSTUV community?
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