IT ENDS THIS WEEK!

Hello Kacper,

As I said previously, $5B over 20 years it would take to build would be $250M/year. The DoD spends half that much a year on paper towels, toilet paper, etc. It is not as big and expensive as its price tag sounds. Do it over 30 years if you like. In that time the demos might actually win the WH again and kill it off.

I don't think a 30 year time frame works for President Trump.

And really, your right. The money isn't the issue. It's giving in to Trump because he is having a hissy fit. That's the problem. We can't do that. Democrats were not sent to Congress to give in to Trump. They were sent there to represent their constituents. And their constituents do not want them to give in.

Why should Democrats give in when the longer this goes on, the more support Trump loses?

His little shut down has back fired. He is losing support, not gaining it.

Now we are just waiting to see how stubborn he is and much support he loses. He has already lost. It is sad to see him lose more. I think he is going to have to cry wolf, declare an emergency that doesn't exist, and take the heat for spending money set aside for disaster relief for Florida, Puerto Rico, Texas and California, further eroding his support.
 
As I said previously, $5B over 20 years it would take to build would be $250M/year. The DoD spends half that much a year on paper towels, toilet paper, etc. It is not as big and expensive as its price tag sounds. Do it over 30 years if you like. In that time the demos might actually win the WH again and kill it off.

Did you factor in the lawsuits about eminent domain? There are still cases in court from when Bush was building a wall. Of course, you know the 6 bill is a downpayment. The fence would be closer to 70 bill, not counting court costs. Of course it is also a waste of money, so the Dems are right to fight a Trumpian boondoggle,
 
And really, your right. The money isn't the issue. It's giving in to Trump because he is having a hissy fit. That's the problem. We can't do that.

At least you finally acknowledge that the democratic party's position is based on partisan politics having zero to do with policy of substance.

Why should Democrats give in when the longer this goes on, the more support Trump loses?

Donnie doesn't care. He will declare himself the victor, do the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dance and exit stage right at the end of his one term.


His little shut down has back fired. He is losing support, not gaining it.

Nobody will care ten minutes after the government reopens.

Now we are just waiting to see how stubborn he is and much support he loses. He has already lost. It is sad to see him lose more. I think he is going to have to cry wolf, declare an emergency that doesn't exist, and take the heat for spending money set aside for disaster relief for Florida, Puerto Rico, Texas and California, further eroding his support.

Already addressed in the purely principal-free partisan context of your position. Declaring a national emergency would get stayed and struck down by the federal courts faster than his spray tan dries. More broadly, Mueller's report is already being drafted and no major political official in the Trump Administration has been indicted yet. I am fairly confident saying that Trump feels that the political winds are about to hurricane at his back when the DNC and the MSM get gutted by having their nonsense officially concluded nonsense as far as Trump.
 
The shutdown is costing billions in lost business. It is hurting lots of workers. they will not forget the stress and hardship that Trump caused, using them as a pawn . There are real world problems that are facing. Trump is tossing out flippant remarks and his admin is doing it too. Their lives are stirred up by Daffy and they told to walk dogs and blow landlords.
The National Emergy call would certainly permit the Dem coming in 2020 to call one for the Environment The bar has dropped. With Trump bars are dropping weekly.
 
The shutdown is costing billions in lost business. It is hurting lots of workers. they will not forget the stress and hardship that Trump caused, using them as a pawn . There are real world problems that are facing. Trump is tossing out flippant remarks and his admin is doing it too. Their lives are stirred up by Daffy and they told to walk dogs and blow landlords.
The National Emergy call would certainly permit the Dem coming in 2020 to call one for the Environment The bar has dropped. With Trump bars are dropping weekly.

Then tell Nancy and Chuck to give him $5 billion and it all goes away
 
Then tell Nancy and Chuck to give him $5 billion and it all goes away

Trump agreed to the CR that was passed by the house and senate. he reneged, which is normal for him. And the 6 billion is a small part of the total the Great Wall of Trump will cost. You ask him to honor his word and it ends the next day.
 
Trump agreed to the CR that was passed by the house and senate. he reneged, which is normal for him. And the 6 billion is a small part of the total the Great Wall of Trump will cost. You ask him to honor his word and it ends the next day.

Tell Nancy and Chuck to give Trump his $5 billion and your precious gobblement opens

Simple.

I am perfectly fine the way things are. I would rather Trump lose outright than cave. If the GOP in the Senate sides with democrats they do so at their own electoral peril and they know it.
 
Good morning Kacper,

At least you finally acknowledge that the democratic party's position is based on partisan politics having zero to do with policy of substance.

Your words, not mine.

Donnie doesn't care. He will declare himself the victor, do the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dance and exit stage right at the end of his one term.

If he makes it that long.

Nobody will care ten minutes after the government reopens.

I don't think it will be so easily forgotten.

Already addressed in the purely principal-free partisan context of your position.

The principles are there for all to see. President Trump shut down the government for no good reason to try to get something unpopular to appease his hateful base. People who know right from wrong have resisted this wrong action.

Declaring a national emergency would get stayed and struck down by the federal courts faster than his spray tan dries.

Oh, but he's Teflon Don. Why is he worried if nothing he does or says hurts him?

More broadly, Mueller's report is already being drafted and no major political official in the Trump Administration has been indicted yet. I am fairly confident saying that Trump feels that the political winds are about to hurricane at his back when the DNC and the MSM get gutted by having their nonsense officially concluded nonsense as far as Trump.

LOL! OK, you're entitled to believe anything you want, and you can even proclaim to be certain of events which have not yet occurred. Might not want to count those chickens just yet. I'm going to take a wait-and-see attitude. My gut tells me your hoped outcome is highly unlikely; but you are free to believe any imagined guess you like about the future. Trump and many of his top gang have already been either indicted or implicated in treasonous crimes. Hang on to any beliefs you like. It's your right. Heck. There are still people who think Nixon was innocent, too.
 
I don’t mind embarrassing you more Frankie Fuckwad

A fucking jerk-off like you could not embarrass me ever.


First...DATELINE FUCKING HOLLYWOOD.

Now...The Hill. A newspaper with a circulation of 20,000.

Let's see what The Times or The Post wrote about a political wisecrack, you fucking asshole.

Now feel free to apologize. I know you won’t. You don’t possess the self awareness.

Think not, huh?

I will match you two to one for every apology of yours you can produce.

Every one that you can link to of YOU apologizing...I will link to two of mine.

So don't give me that shit, you fucking asshole.
 
A fucking jerk-off like you could not embarrass me ever.



First...DATELINE FUCKING HOLLYWOOD.

Now...The Hill. A newspaper with a circulation of 20,000.

Let's see what The Times or The Post wrote about a political wisecrack, you fucking asshole.



Think not, huh?

I will match you two to one for every apology of yours you can produce.

Every one that you can link to of YOU apologizing...I will link to two of mine.

So don't give me that shit, you fucking asshole.

Poor Frankie Fuckwad gets his wrinkled old ass handed to him again and all he can do is lash out.

Don't worry Frankie Fuckwad. You assure us that the shutdown ends this week right? Guarantee it? By Tomorrow? Thursday? Friday? Define "this week".
 
In other words...allow him to extort!

You really are a jerk-off.

Dear Frankie Fuckwad

Of the two of us you want this "shutdown" to end. I am perfectly fine with it. All of it. It can go on another three years for all I care. So if you really want it to end, tell your side to give in. Don't expect my side to when we don't give a shit about the shutdown.

I don't think you understand how negotiating works Frankie Fuckwad. Now stop having your Trumper Tantrum and go drink your morning prune juice. I suspect you are a bit constipated. You get cranky when you are constipated
 
Poor Frankie Fuckwad gets his wrinkled old ass handed to him again and all he can do is lash out.

Don't worry Frankie Fuckwad. You assure us that the shutdown ends this week right? Guarantee it? By Tomorrow? Thursday? Friday? Define "this week".

I didn't think you would take me up on the challenge about which of us is more likely to "apologize."

That's because you are all mouth...and no substance.

Yeah...my prediction is that it all ends this week...with Trump caving, laughably claiming he got what he wanted...and with assholes like you pretending he got them.

Would I guarantee it?

Only a fucking asshole like you would guarantee something in the future...so, no, I will not guarantee it.

Have I mentioned that you are a jerk-off?

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Dear Frankie Fuckwad

Of the two of us you want this "shutdown" to end. I am perfectly fine with it. All of it. It can go on another three years for all I care. So if you really want it to end, tell your side to give in. Don't expect my side to when we don't give a shit about the shutdown.

I don't think you understand how negotiating works Frankie Fuckwad. Now stop having your Trumper Tantrum and go drink your morning prune juice. I suspect you are a bit constipated. You get cranky when you are constipated

Yeah, I want the shutdown to end...because it is destructive of America...and causes great hardship for lots of people.

I understand that you do not care if it is destructive of America and that it causes great hardships for lots of people...because you are an asshole. (See above post.)
 
I didn't think you would take me up on the challenge about which of us is more likely to "apologize."

That's because you are all mouth...and no substance.

Yeah...my prediction is that it all ends this week...with Trump caving, laughably claiming he got what he wanted...and with assholes like you pretending he got them.

Would I guarantee it?

Only a fucking asshole like you would guarantee something in the future...so, no, I will not guarantee it.

Have I mentioned that you are a jerk-off?

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Dear Frankie Fuckwad

You asked for proof of Nazi Pelousy saying what I claimed she said. I provided proof. You didn't like the source. I provided yet ANOTHER source that showed the same exact thing word for word. You still didn't like the source. I know the game you democrats like to play. Whenever you are proved wrong or facts are presented to you that fuck with your distorted worldview, you immediately resort to criticizing the source. As if doing that will make what is true untrue.

I never expected you to apologize Frankie Fuckwad. To do so would mean you possess a level of self awareness and character that I know you do not possess. You proved that by trying to project onto me.

I hope you get stage 4 inoperable prostate cancer and it spreads to your bones and there is a nationwide shortage of opioids. I hope you have to resort to street heroin for relief and become addicted and then in an act of desperation purchase a laced hit of heroin from your buddy Deshtard that kills you dead.

That is what I hope for you Frankie Fuckwad. Why? Not because I don't like you Frankie Fuckwad. But, because I pity you and I want you put out of your misery
 
Yeah, I want the shutdown to end...because it is destructive of America...and causes great hardship for lots of people.

I understand that you do not care if it is destructive of America and that it causes great hardships for lots of people...because you are an asshole. (See above post.)

Dear Frankie Fuckwad

If you want it to end so badly then implore Cuck and Nancy to come up with $5 billion for the wall. If you say know, then you don't want it to end badly enough. It really isn't that complicated.

I know that this is tough for you Frankie Fuckwad. You democrats are so used to republicans that cave. You have become accustomed to it. It has been the order of things for years. But, along comes President Trump the Disruptor in Chief and it has turned your entire world upside down. You are just having a Trumper Tantrum Frankie Fuckwad. It's ok. I will keep praying for you
 
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