Legal Immigration

aloysious said:
Did those folks have to sneak across the border illegally to get to their interview?
My instinct tells me they did not.
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Oh no, of course not! Our government, at the behest of American employers, has made it easy for an H1B visa applicant to apply, interview, and legally take an already-employed American's job -- for a much lower salary. Gee, I wonder who pockets the "savings"?
 
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ThatOwlWoman said:
Oh no, of course not! Our government, at the behest of American employers, has made it easy for an H1B visa applicant to apply, interview, and legally take an already-employed American's job -- for a much lower salary. Gee, I wonder who pockets the "savings"?
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This is tangential but all those IT guys out there. Seems to be a ton of them. All the ones I know have no degree in it and I don't even know if they even have any formal training.
MY brother in law has a degree in accounting yet he's an IT Guy. A guy I used for my office has a degree in architecture, sometimes pilots float planes and he's an IT Guy.
Seems to be an IT Guy one can be anywhere from self taught to having a PhD in it.
Just curious. I'm pretty computer illiterate.
 
aloysious said:
This is tangential but all those IT guys out there. Seems to be a ton of them. All the ones I know have no degree in it and I don't even know if they even have any formal training.
MY brother in law has a degree in accounting yet he's an IT Guy. A guy I used for my office has a degree in architecture, sometimes pilots float planes and he's an IT Guy.
Seems to be an IT Guy one can be anywhere from self taught to having a PhD in it.
Just curious. I'm pretty computer illiterate.
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The reason you see so much of that is partially because of Microsoft certifications. My husband's bachelors is in engineering, yet he taught himself 15 different computer languages, has written several other proprietary ones, was sent to various MIcrosoft and other educational things at his employer's expense, and has a truckload of different certifications. If you are so inclined and interested, you can teach yourself a great deal of software engineering and systems architecture, but employers also want you to have those certifications. My nephew also has a degree in accounting like your b.i.l. yet he worked for Oracle as a hardware project manager for years.
 
aloysious said:
Did those folks have to sneak across the border illegally to get to their interview?
My instinct tells me they did not.
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What do you think about changing the rules for H1B visa that would require US employers to pay prevailing wages to H1B visa applicants they sponsor?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
What do you think about changing the rules for H1B visa that would require US employers to pay prevailing wages to H1B visa applicants they sponsor?
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No problem.

Reminds me of when I worked as a contractor in Germany for the army. They hired an Irish guy as a "local" (meaning German) to do the exact same job as me and he was paid about 1/3 what I made. Great guy and worker. Needless to say he didn't stay long.
 
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ThatFowlWoman said:
My husband's bachelors is in engineering, yet he taught himself 15 different computer languages, has written several other proprietary ones, was sent to various MIcrosoft and other educational things at his employer's expense, and has a truckload of different certifications. My nephew also has a degree in accounting like your b.i.l. yet he worked for Oracle as a hardware project manager for years.
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A story for every circumstance. :rofl2:
 
Dirt McGirt said:
Isn't that already a requirement? I know it is for H2B employers.
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It is but, surprise, surprise, American businesses have found a loophole by using foreign employment agencies abroad. They contract with the employment agencies and the foreign workers are employed by the employment agency and not the US company they are working for. They then pay those workers lower wages and get away with it as, technically, they aren't employed by the US company. Nice damned loophole huh?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Mott,



Great idea.

TOTALLY AGREE!
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They already do require that. I just wanted to see if people were aware that this is a problem with the H1B Visa program and that even with a prevailing wage rule as part of the Visa process American companies were getting around that by using foreign employment agencies where the foreign workers are actually employed by the foreign employment agency and not the US Company. Since they are not employed by the US Company the US Company isn't required to pay the foreign workers the prevailing wage in that field.
 
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