Let me get this straight

[Eagle_Eye]

BTW, STEM degrees are all the rage because they are in high demand right now. Hardly a "liberal arts" thing procured at a "leftist university." But then what else can we expect from an adherent to the party who supports ignorance?

Republicans are hardly the party of ignorance. When it comes to higher education polls show both parties are about equal. The gulf appears as to who should pay for it. So in a nut shell Republicans want less government and more personal responsibility. Where as Democrats have become the party of freebees.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/presto...t-the-point-of-higher-education/#4f7b1d417ae6

 

[Mason Michaels]

Republicans are hardly the party of ignorance. When it comes to higher education polls show both parties are about equal. The gulf appears as to who should pay for it. So in a nut shell Republicans want less government and more personal responsibility. Where as Democrats have become the party of freebees.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/presto...t-the-point-of-higher-education/#4f7b1d417ae6

Those days of Republican party being for less government ended decades ago.

 

[Evmetro]

Let the JPP world take notice that a thread having Bernie Sanders as its star topic is totally ignored by the leftist responders. They apparently have zero credible arguments favoring ole Bernie & his neo-communist agenda, but they do have insults & unfounded accusations to hurl at the OP messenger.

As that messenger I would like to thank the leftist responders for their comical & thoughtless exhibition of brain-cramp & partisan ignorance.

Lefties have to wait to see which way the media leads them, so they can't really say much about Bernie yet. Lefties are afraid to speak out as far as for or against ANY of the candidates yet, since they have not been given direction yet.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Those days of Republican party being for less government ended decades ago.

Not when compared to the Democrats.

 

[Mason Michaels]

Not when compared to the Democrats.

Preaching to the choir I hate both parties.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Republicans are hardly the party of ignorance. When it comes to higher education polls show both parties are about equal. The gulf appears as to who should pay for it. So in a nut shell Republicans want less government and more personal responsibility. Where as Democrats have become the party of freebees.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/presto...t-the-point-of-higher-education/#4f7b1d417ae6

There is nothing wrong with taxpayers funding education, including higher education. It is an investment in our people, not a hand out. I would love to see no-cost two-year college and/or trade school educations for all.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Those days of Republican party being for less government ended decades ago.

Well, they definitely think it's just fine for govt. to crawl up into our wombs and make sure they're under control. lol

 

[Celticguy]

Lots of jobs require a degree to get considered. A Liberal Arts degree is a degree and it shows the person has a well-rounded education. College is not an apprenticeship.
Robo presumes to speak for the left when he can barely articulate his own hateful beliefs. He has no fucking idea what the left thinks and proves he does not post after post.

Degrees became necessary to weed out the illiterates and those who were incapable of doing math that the liberal rin high schools were graduating.
It was the wrong solution but the only one available.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

There is nothing wrong with taxpayers funding education, including higher education. It is an investment in our people, not a hand out. I would love to see no-cost two-year college and/or trade school educations for all.

That is where we differ. First we both agree that higher education costs are way to high and need to come down. That said you have two high school graduates both A students one wants to be an auto mechanic and the other a Lawyer. Why should the trade school student have to help pay for the law school student's education? Neither is going to school to help others but to do what they like and make a decent living. Like I said your side wants to give one basically a free education at the expense of the other. I believe that both should receive low say 1% loans for school. That is called equal treatment. But I do have an alternate proposal. Like the Military Academies the person gets a free education but has a commitment to enter government service in their specialty at a fair wage for say 6 to 10 years depending on the amount of schooling required. That would then be fair as the tax payer gets a return on their money.

 

[Truth Detector]

Lots of jobs require a degree to get considered. A Liberal Arts degree is a degree and it shows the person has a well-rounded education. College is not an apprenticeship.
Robo presumes to speak for the left when he can barely articulate his own hateful beliefs. He has no fucking idea what the left thinks and proves he does not post after post.

YOU presume to speak for all of us when YOU can barely articulate your own hateful beliefs. YOU have no fucking idea what the right thinks and proves YOU do not post after post.

 

[Truth Detector]

Just the usual right-wing delusional rant. Nothing but strawmen and delusions.

^^ Just the usual left wing trolling rant; nothing substantive and nothing worth reading.

 

[Truth Detector]

It's hard to be unbiased when "education is stupid" has become a right-wing talking point.

LIE and LAME. It's hard to take your bloviating seriously when all they are is LYING and CRYING.

I can't help but wonder if Republicans want to keep people ignorant, because ignorant people are more likely to vote Republican.

I can't help but wonder if Democrats and leftists want to keep people ignorant, because ignorant people are more likely to vote Democratic.

 

[Truth Detector]

Bingo!
Only in Republican America,is getting an education a bad thing!

Who said it was a bad thing you dishonest partisan hack?

 

[Truth Detector]

The higher your education,the more you make,the more taxes you pay.
Education is an investment!

Most in our leftist controlled educational establishment aren't getting educated unfortunately; they are being indoctrinated with a Marxist mentality that leads to failure.

College Students Can't Answer Simple Questions...

 

[Truth Detector]

Republicans are hardly the party of ignorance. When it comes to higher education polls show both parties are about equal. The gulf appears as to who should pay for it. So in a nut shell Republicans want less government and more personal responsibility. Where as Democrats have become the party of freebees.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/presto...t-the-point-of-higher-education/#4f7b1d417ae6

BINGO!

 

[Truth Detector]

There is nothing wrong with taxpayers funding education, including higher education. It is an investment in our people, not a hand out. I would love to see no-cost two-year college and/or trade school educations for all.

There is everything wrong about handing over more of our liberties and responsibilities to a faceless massive bureaucracy. If you were properly educated, you would know this.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

That is where we differ. First we both agree that higher education costs are way to high and need to come down. That said you have two high school graduates both A students one wants to be an auto mechanic and the other a Lawyer. Why should the trade school student have to help pay for the law school student's education? Neither is going to school to help others but to do what they like and make a decent living. Like I said your side wants to give one basically a free education at the expense of the other. I believe that both should receive low say 1% loans for school. That is called equal treatment. But I do have an alternate proposal. Like the Military Academies the person gets a free education but has a commitment to enter government service in their specialty at a fair wage for say 6 to 10 years depending on the amount of schooling required. That would then be fair as the tax payer gets a return on their money.

Wait a second. Your argument makes no sense. We give BOTH students a free two-year-after-h.s. education. If the one kid wants to be a mechanic, he can go to a trade school, gratis. The wannabe lawyer kid gets his first two years at community college for free as well. After that, if he wants to continue on, he can find ways to cover the costs -- student loans, grants, scholarships, etc. If the mechanic kid decides that he wants to become an automotive/industrial engineer, then he goes on the same as the lawyer kid, and finds his own funding. The mechanic kid is not paying for lawyer kid's education. Both get two years on our dime, because we want to invest in our future by investing in our ppl.

I like your idea of community or govt. service in exchange for a higher education.

 

[Truth Detector]

Well, they definitely think it's just fine for govt. to crawl up into our wombs and make sure they're under control. lol

The Government is taking over your womb by legislating abortion from the bench. I don't get how people can celebrate the murder of unborn children. But then, your side is also for cop killers, criminals, illegal aliens and anti-American Marxist dogma. So there is that.

 

[Truth Detector]

Wait a second. Your argument makes no sense. We give BOTH students a free two-year-after-h.s. education. If the one kid wants to be a mechanic, he can go to a trade school, gratis. The wannabe lawyer kid gets his first two years at community college for free as well. After that, if he wants to continue on, he can find ways to cover the costs -- student loans, grants, scholarships, etc. If the mechanic kid decides that he wants to become an automotive/industrial engineer, then he goes on the same as the lawyer kid, and finds his own funding. The mechanic kid is not paying for lawyer kid's education. Both get two years on our dime, because we want to invest in our future by investing in our ppl.

I like your idea of community or govt. service in exchange for a higher education.

^^Dishonest leftist partisan hack thinks shit is free.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Wait a second. Your argument makes no sense. We give BOTH students a free two-year-after-h.s. education. If the one kid wants to be a mechanic, he can go to a trade school, gratis. The wannabe lawyer kid gets his first two years at community college for free as well. After that, if he wants to continue on, he can find ways to cover the costs -- student loans, grants, scholarships, etc. If the mechanic kid decides that he wants to become an automotive/industrial engineer, then he goes on the same as the lawyer kid, and finds his own funding. The mechanic kid is not paying for lawyer kid's education. Both get two years on our dime, because we want to invest in our future by investing in our ppl.

I like your idea of community or govt. service in exchange for a higher education.

You misunderstood. I am against free higher education period. That includes Community College. If someone like my kids did want a degree they pay for their degrees. Both went to Community College and on to university with student aid and scholarships. I don't know about your area but here our CC is extremely affordable, so barring abject poverty anyone can afford a two year degree. I am sorry I have found that anything that has no cost is unappreciated and abused. That is the problem with most young people today it is the what's in it for me generation where they expect almost everything handed to them on a silver platter. Believe it or not but when one works to attain something it becomes more important and appreciated.