Mason Michaels
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Slavery was the straw that broke the camels back
LINCOLN, the CIVIL WAR and SLAVERY
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Slavery was the straw that broke the camels back
Mason Michaels
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If they left,what happened to the CSA?
The one that was a needless concern and easily accomplished as the rest of the world found.
The csa formed from former states. Have you ever read any history ?
Minister of Truth
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No, the matter of slavery was not a matter of state's rights, because that is not a real thing. Re-read the 10th Amendment, and tell me where the term "state's rights" appears.
Between Buchanan and Lincoln, talks over the fort basically amounted to the CSA demanding that America hand the fort over. Even Buchanan refused to do this. Lincoln didn't make any promises to your side for him to have broken anything. It's just your usual Confederate way of telling lies and misinformation as a means to "debate."
Fortruth100
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Lincoln did what he could
Dutch Uncle
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What, exactly, are you claiming I'm obsessing about?
While you formulate a reply, did I tell you about my time with Mason's mom? She was great. Certainly better than her weak and stupid son. She once whispered into my ear, "I like to be pampered." I nuzzled her and said, "Sorry honey, I'm not into diaper fetishes."
Dutch Uncle
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Of course, just like Franco, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Tojo.
Mason Michaels
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They were never former states,the attempted at stealing those states was put down,and the thieves were paroled,when they should have been hanged
Mason Michaels
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Obsessed with Trump.
Mason Michaels
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Why would a President surrender a fort to criminals?
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. The specific issue the CSA states seceded over was slavery; but the general issue was for each state to have more autonomy. Before the Civil War, that was a common opinion. It was only after that the United States was thought of as one entity. As historian Shelby Foote once noted: "Before the war, it was said "the United States are." Grammatically, it was spoken that way and thought of as a collection of independent states. And after the war, it was always "the United States is," as we say to day without being self-conscious at all. And that's sums up what the war accomplished."
Dutch Uncle
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The same reason a President kills 2% of his population. The same reasons sock puppeteers are lying scumbags.
Some time ago Mason's mom and I were resting in bed. She says "Give me twelves inches and make it hurt" so I pumped my dick into her twice and slapped her.
Whether it was legal or not.
Mason Michaels
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So you're a anti-American pervert
Mason Michaels
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Lol,as if stealing Southern States is legal
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Please do explain, rather than just claiming he broke the law. It's refreshing to see someone rooting so hard against America. I'm glad you weren't there to defend the Axis Powers during WWII. Maybe if FDR had surrendered Pearl Harbor to Japan, things would have worked out.
yeah, you're just pulling that outta your ass.
Let me know when MA or CA invents the idea of in-person voter fraud and implements voter ID purely to suppress minority votes. Or when they lynch blacks on the regular, or when they deny felons' voting rights or continue marijuana prohibition (all essentially modern Jim Crow policies that disproportionately affect blacks).
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NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Was saving the union a good idea in the long run?
Kentucky did not join the confederacy.
It stayed with the union throughout, despite sympathizing with the confederacy.
Even still, if the seceding states remained partitioned, do you think that Kentucky's Mitch McConnell could possibly be the majority leader in the US Senate?
Do you think that his colleague Rand Paul could even walk about in public safely?
An America almost completely free of Red States would be the closest thing to paradise ever existent on this earth.
Kentucky did not join the confederacy.
It stayed with the union throughout, despite sympathizing with the confederacy.
Even still, if the seceding states remained partitioned, do you think that Kentucky's Mitch McConnell could possibly be the majority leader in the US Senate?
Do you think that his colleague Rand Paul could even walk about in public safely?
An America almost completely free of Red States would be the closest thing to paradise ever existent on this earth.
lol, you're so fucking brainwashed.
Did your textbooks actually have a stars and bars on them? The federal government was occupying the fort (because the fort was federal property) well before any articles of secession, and SC had no legal authority to order them to leave. To believe otherwise is to deny gravity. Once they started the bombing, they started the war.