Mask filtration principles

Celticguy said:
Just admit you can't find an argument against it.
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just admit you are too stupid to understand the arguments proving this guy is a moron. all masks work. some work better than others. none stop all viruses from escaping or the people wearing them would suffocate. quit being a stupid shit clown.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
you are an idiot. try to think, if you can. masks keep infected people from exhaling or sneezing or yelling out enough virus that make it through their mask far enough to infect anybody else wearing a mask that is not 10" from their face. regardless of the size of the actual virus. try to imagine wearing a mask and you laugh real loud and squirt milk out your nose or mouth....how far do you think the majority of milk spew might flow? a foot or so? because the density of even poorly made masks still is dense enough to block the majority of milk flowing out, with only a small percentage escaping and even then being slowed down. now think about how far the milk would spew without a mask? nobody is claiming masks would not let some virus escape, if it were that dense, you would suffocate when wearing a mask!! are you trying to be a dumbass? if so, kudos...
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How exactly do the enormous holes or pores in masks stop the tiny virus? Do you know what this thread is about?

 
why would you even try to believe the 1% of scientists or epidemiologists who discount masks, instead of the other 99%? how does that make sense to you? why do areas that have widespread mask use have lower infection rates than those who do not? i bet you also believe the 2% of experts who deny global warming and climate change, too.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
why would you even try to believe the 1% of scientists or epidemiologists who discount masks, instead of the other 99%? how does that make sense to you? why do areas that have widespread mask use have lower infection rates than those who do not? i bet you also believe the 2% of experts who deny global warming and climate change, too.
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This is not how masks work, but it validates the opening post.
 
Evmetro said:
How exactly do the enormous holes or pores in masks stop the tiny virus? Do you know what this thread is about?

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they are not enormous holes, clown. try to fucking think. are breath particles that you exhale smaller than virus or at least as small? yes or no? now imagine a candle 5' away and you try to blow it out with a mask on...no way, right? maybe from a foot away, possibly, but not even 2'!! and that is just your breath with carbon dioxide particles smaller than virus cells!!

Killer COVID-19 Masks? The Truth About Trapped Carbon ...hartfordhealthcare.org › news-press › news-detail
Jun 22, 2020 — Only an airtight mask could possibly cause any breathing difficulty. ... They fit tighter than a cloth mask but still not tight enough on the face to kill. ... A mask is designed to trap viral droplets, much larger than tiny carbon dioxide particles.

 
Evmetro said:
The natural lefty reaction to the opening post is to evade or cheat. They will be compelled to post "something" in response to it, but nothing that addresses the topic. They will want to find a way to marginalize the topic without having to present a better argument, since cheating is so innate. Just look at anything that any lefty posts on this thread and you will see that they are cheating by evading posting a stronger argument than the one they are trying to marginalize.

From the opening post:
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It is simple. The virus travels on droplets that are filtered out. It keeps your droplets in and other people's droplets out.https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
they are not enormous holes, clown. try to fucking think. are breath particles that you exhale smaller than virus or at least as small? yes or no? now imagine a candle 5' away and you try to blow it out with a mask on...no way, right? maybe from a foot away, possibly, but not even 2'!! and that is just your breath with carbon dioxide particles smaller than virus cells!!

Killer COVID-19 Masks? The Truth About Trapped Carbon ...hartfordhealthcare.org › news-press › news-detail
Jun 22, 2020 — Only an airtight mask could possibly cause any breathing difficulty. ... They fit tighter than a cloth mask but still not tight enough on the face to kill. ... A mask is designed to trap viral droplets, much larger than tiny carbon dioxide particles.

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This is not how masks work. You need to know how big the holes in the filter are, and compare it to the size of what you want to filter out. Do you know how big each of these is? Do you feel compelled to evade discussing these two required bits of information?
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
just admit you are too stupid to understand the arguments proving this guy is a moron. all masks work. some work better than others. none stop all viruses from escaping or the people wearing them would suffocate. quit being a stupid shit clown.
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In the opening post, it was made clear that claims that mask work do not count as an explanation of HOW masks work. I predicted your post when I wrote the opening post.
 
Here is the opening post again:

The principle behind how masks work is that air passes through a bunch of small pores or holes. The stuff that is bigger than the holes gets stopped by the smaller holes. You can pour a pot of water and pasta through a strainer and witness how masks filter out stuff. All we need to know here for filtering viruses is the size of the hole or pore in the mask, and of course the size of the virus. If the pores are 300 to 10,000 times larger than the virus or virus carrying droplet, then we know that the mask is not the correct ppe. Duh...

Quotes of mask studies are not how masks work, and neither are claims that they do in fact work. Claims that masks work and quotes of studies are propaganda. If a doctor or scientist claims that masks work, it is not the same thing as HOW masks work. No claim that masks work, regardless of if they are correct or not, is how masks work.

There is a good reason why lefties will not discuss HOW masks work, and why they need to evade or quote propaganda that simply claims that masks work. The reason is that even a five year old child can see that smaller stuff will flow through larger holes. The difference in the tiny size of a virus compared to the enormous holes or pores in cheap paper and cloth masks is breathtaking.

Quotable reminder: This thread is not a debate about IF masks work, it is about "HOW" masks work.
 
Evmetro said:
The principle behind how masks work is that air passes through a bunch of small pores or holes. The stuff that is bigger than the holes gets stopped by the smaller holes. You can pour a pot of water and pasta through a strainer and witness how masks filter out stuff. All we need to know here for filtering viruses is the size of the hole or pore in the mask, and of course the size of the virus. If the pores are 300 to 10,000 times larger than the virus or virus carrying droplet, then we know that the mask is not the correct ppe. Duh...

Quotes of mask studies are not how masks work, and neither are claims that they do in fact work. Claims that masks work and quotes of studies are propaganda. If a doctor or scientist claims that masks work, it is not the same thing as HOW masks work. No claim that masks work, regardless of if they are correct or not, is how masks work.

There is a good reason why lefties will not discuss HOW masks work, and why they need to evade or quote propaganda that simply claims that masks work. The reason is that even a five year old child can see that smaller stuff will flow through larger holes. The difference in the tiny size of a virus compared to the enormous holes or pores in cheap paper and cloth masks is breathtaking.

Quotable reminder: This thread is not a debate about IF masks work, it is about "HOW" masks work.
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you forget the m95 mask along with others do not seal on the face and allow particulate to pass through on those areas that are not sealed .
 
Bulletbob said:
you forget the m95 mask along with others do not seal on the face and allow particulate to pass through on those areas that are not sealed .
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And right through the pores of the mask itself, even if you could get a good seal.
 
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Hoosier Daddy said:
just admit you are too stupid to understand the arguments proving this guy is a moron. all masks work. some work better than others. none stop all viruses from escaping or the people wearing them would suffocate. quit being a stupid shit clown.
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So you admit they dont work. Good. Thats a start.
 
Interesting to see how many lefties have discussed HOW masks work. Here is the opening post again, you can see I predicted that lefties would not be talking about the HOW.

Evmetro said:
The principle behind how masks work is that air passes through a bunch of small pores or holes. The stuff that is bigger than the holes gets stopped by the smaller holes. You can pour a pot of water and pasta through a strainer and witness how masks filter out stuff. All we need to know here for filtering viruses is the size of the hole or pore in the mask, and of course the size of the virus. If the pores are 300 to 10,000 times larger than the virus or virus carrying droplet, then we know that the mask is not the correct ppe. Duh...

Quotes of mask studies are not how masks work, and neither are claims that they do in fact work. Claims that masks work and quotes of studies are propaganda. If a doctor or scientist claims that masks work, it is not the same thing as HOW masks work. No claim that masks work, regardless of if they are correct or not, is how masks work.

There is a good reason why lefties will not discuss HOW masks work, and why they need to evade or quote propaganda that simply claims that masks work. The reason is that even a five year old child can see that smaller stuff will flow through larger holes. The difference in the tiny size of a virus compared to the enormous holes or pores in cheap paper and cloth masks is breathtaking.

Quotable reminder: This thread is not a debate about IF masks work, it is about "HOW" masks work.
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