Mask filtration principles

Notice how Evmetro is not actually addressing the points? He's deflecting and evading.
 
a lot of people do not like wearing masks because it makes it harder to breathe. and yet air that people breath is 100's of times smaller than covid virus. is that not a clue you can understand for yourself? if masks were 100% perfect, people who wore them would SUFFOCATE. get it? but it does slow down and mitigate ordinary air, which is 100's of times smaller than covid, so it has to be 100's of times better at mitigating any covid virus from being inhaled. duh.

and like i said earlier, take a candle and blow it out from 3'....then put on a mask and try. no way. probably not even at 1'. so an infected person exhaling carbon dioxide, which is 100's of time smaller than covid, has trouble projecting it even 1'....think how little of the virus is being exhaled. it works both ways...and if both are wearing masks, it cuts infection rates to almost zero.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
a lot of people do not like wearing masks because it makes it harder to breathe. and yet air that people breath is 100's of times smaller than covid virus. is that not a clue you can understand for yourself? if masks were 100% perfect, people who wore them would SUFFOCATE. get it? but it does slow down and mitigate ordinary air, which is 100's of times smaller than covid, so it has to be 100's of times better at mitigating any covid virus from being inhaled. duh.

and like i said earlier, take a candle and blow it out from 3'....then put on a mask and try. no way. probably not even at 1'. so an infected person exhaling carbon dioxide, which is 100's of time smaller than covid, has trouble projecting it even 1'....think how little of the virus is being exhaled. it works both ways...and if both are wearing masks, it cuts infection rates to almost zero.
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Evmetro said:
The reason why you can't explain how the masks in the video work is because they did not work. Huge amounts of droplets poured out, around, and right through the masks. This is why nobody can explain how masks filter out viruses and droplets.
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Ok.. Prove that the masks in the video did not filter 90% of particles. I will await your evidence. Video is not evidence of the effectiveness of the mask. It only proves the mask in not 100% effective which is true of every mask because any mask that stops 100% would kill the wearer. Since we can not see how much vape is being inhaled we can't judge how much is being blocked by the mask. It could be anywhere from 0-99% and since we have no way of telling what percent the mask stopped this video is not evidence that masks don't work but only evidence that you don't want to look at actual evidence but instead rely on youtube vidoes for your science.


Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Ok.. Prove that the masks in the video did not filter 90% of particles. I will await your evidence. Video is not evidence of the effectiveness of the mask. It only proves the mask in not 100% effective which is true of every mask because any mask that stops 100% would kill the wearer. Since we can not see how much vape is being inhaled we can't judge how much is being blocked by the mask. It could be anywhere from 0-99% and since we have no way of telling what percent the mask stopped this video is not evidence that masks don't work but only evidence that you don't want to look at actual evidence but instead rely on youtube vidoes for your science.


Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
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The amount of vape shown escaping in that video is on par with what we see when people vape for pleasure. When you watch that video, you can clearly see that masks don't do shit. No trick photography or special effects, just straight reality.
 
Evmetro said:
The amount of vape shown escaping in that video is on par with what we see when people vape for pleasure. When you watch that video, you can clearly see that masks don't do shit.
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Is it? Can you provide evidence that it is? A youtube video isn't peer reviewed science. It is just pablum for conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Did you see the youtube video that proves the earth is flat?
How about the youtube video that proves gravity sometimes stops working?
You should branch out a little more with your idiocy. It might make you more well rounded or maybe flatter like the earth.


Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
 
Evmetro said:
The amount of vape shown escaping in that video is on par with what we see when people vape for pleasure. When you watch that video, you can clearly see that masks don't do shit. No trick photography or special effects, just straight reality.
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Evading Evmetro continues to evade once again.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Is it? Can you provide evidence that it is? A youtube video isn't peer reviewed science. It is just pablum for conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Did you see the youtube video that proves the earth is flat?
How about the youtube video that proves gravity sometimes stops working?
You should branch out a little more with your idiocy. It might make you more well rounded or maybe flatter like the earth.


Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
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There are two young men who vape at the car wash next door, and I can see the vape cloud every time one of them takes a drag. Looks about the same as the video. One of the guys where I work showed all of us how cigarette smoke goes through masks. Looks about like the video.
 
Evmetro said:
There are two young men who vape at the car wash next door, and I can see the vape cloud every time one of them takes a drag. Looks about the same as the video. One of the guys where I work showed all of us how cigarette smoke goes through masks. Looks about like the video.
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Did they also show you how the earth is flat? or how gravity is just a theory so it never works?

Meanwhile there is real science such as this -
http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1163956/FULLTEXT01.pdf

I tell you what, you stick with the guys at the car wash for your science and I will stick with the guys at Livermore National Labs.
https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/325068

Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Did they also show you how the earth is flat? or how gravity is just a theory so it never works?

Meanwhile there is real science such as this -
http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1163956/FULLTEXT01.pdf

I tell you what, you stick with the guys at the car wash for your science and I will stick with the guys at Livermore National Labs.
https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/325068

Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
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If your lab guys claim that vape and smoke clouds don't pour effortlessly around and through disposable masks like they aren't even there, I'll stick to believing my eyes when I can clearly see smoke and vape clouds pour effortlessly around and through disposable masks. A real world test like this doesn't require a PhD in a lab coat to see the elephant in the room.
 
Evmetro said:
If your lab guys claim that vape and smoke clouds don't pour effortlessly around and through disposable masks like they aren't even there, I'll stick to believing my eyes when I can clearly see smoke and vape clouds pour effortlessly around and through disposable masks. A real world test like this doesn't require a PhD in a lab coat to see the elephant in the room.
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You haven't conducted a single "real world test." You have simply watched youtube videos and relied on the guys at the car wash.

You stick to your eyes that tell you the earth is flat. Then stick to youtube videos for the rest of your science.

Don't forget that Houdini first proved you can make an elephant disappear so obviously you can't see the elephant in the room since it can disappear in front of your eyes.


Interception, Impaction and Diffusion are how masks work.
If you don't understand the science, you should perhaps stop showing everyone how stupid you are.
 
Evmetro said:
If your lab guys claim that vape and smoke clouds don't pour effortlessly around and through disposable masks like they aren't even there, I'll stick to believing my eyes when I can clearly see smoke and vape clouds pour effortlessly around and through disposable masks. A real world test like this doesn't require a PhD in a lab coat to see the elephant in the room.
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Conduct a few experiments with droplets and upload the videos to Youtube.
 
Evmetro said:
Just wanted to say how impressed I am with not just the masks that I bought from the Etsy site, but also the service. I have ordered a few batches of masks, and each seller has done a beautiful job with the packaging and presentation. Wrapping, packaging, and bags, business cards and handwritten notes. Etsy is the way to go for handcrafted items.

My masks that I bought from a couple different Etsy sellers are all excellent fabric and design, elastic ear loops, and nice fitting mask shape.

I'll make sure to buy Etsy products in the future as well.

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So Evmetro, did you order that t-shirt I suggested yet?
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
You haven't conducted a single "real world test." You have simply watched youtube videos and relied on the guys at the car wash.
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There is nothing more real world than watching vapor droplets flow easily and effortlessly through and around masks. A video is great for that, but there is nothing more real world than watching it in real time from a real person. An average person at a car wash vaping easily through and around a mask is as good as it gets. Even if politically motivated doctors and scientists claim the vape droplets are not doing what can be seen plain as day, I can still see what is really happening.
 
Evmetro said:
The principle behind how masks work is that air passes through a bunch of small pores or holes. The stuff that is bigger than the holes gets stopped by the smaller holes. You can pour a pot of water and pasta through a strainer and witness how masks filter out stuff. All we need to know here for filtering viruses is the size of the hole or pore in the mask, and of course the size of the virus. If the pores are 300 to 10,000 times larger than the virus or virus carrying droplet, then we know that the mask is not the correct ppe. Duh...

Quotes of mask studies are not how masks work, and neither are claims that they do in fact work. Claims that masks work and quotes of studies are propaganda. If a doctor or scientist claims that masks work, it is not the same thing as HOW masks work. No claim that masks work, regardless of if they are correct or not, is how masks work.

There is a good reason why lefties will not discuss HOW masks work, and why they need to evade or quote propaganda that simply claims that masks work. The reason is that even a five year old child can see that smaller stuff will flow through larger holes. The difference in the tiny size of a virus compared to the enormous holes or pores in cheap paper and cloth masks is breathtaking.

Quotable reminder: This thread is not a debate about IF masks work, it is about "HOW" masks work.
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You are literally the dumbest moron on the planet. No one and I mean no one has ever said the mask stops a virus you are being a moron. Seek treatment for your meth addiction immediately your brain is nothing but pus and it is making you delusional and making crap up.
 
Evmetro said:
There is nothing more real world than watching vapor droplets flow easily and effortlessly through and around masks. A video is great for that, but there is nothing more real world than watching it in real time from a real person. An average person at a car wash vaping easily through and around a mask is as good as it gets. Even if politically motivated doctors and scientists claim the vape droplets are not doing what can be seen plain as day, I can still see what is really happening.
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