Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence

WRONG; you take one SIMPLE written test that even a low IQ moron like you can pass. You do a DRIVING test that even a low IQ moron like you can pass.

So that's TWO TESTS right there, after you screeched like a barnyard animal that it's not "multiple tests"...you say it isn't, then you go and say it is.

And you have to take other tests as well, like an eye exam.

What a fucking idiot.

Me: You have to pass multiple tests to drive a car

You: WRONG! You have to pass multiple tests to drive a car.
 
Funny thing about GOVERNMENT; they llke their TAXES and fees.

And?


See above. So tell me dumbass; does that prevent the 36,120 annual deaths from accidents dumbass?

Yes, given that deaths on the roads used to be double what they are today, thanks to 40 years of government regulations and rules like seat belt laws, speed limits, airbags and 99 other safety regulations every automobile must adhere to in order to be on the roads.

40 years ago, before all those safety rules, about 75,000 people died on the roads every year...but 40 years of safety regulations and rules cut that number in half, even as the number of cars on the roads doubled.
 
So you think it will prevent suicides, criminal enterprise and crime?

Yes...particularly gun suicides.

Guns are the most effective way someone can kill themselves, with an 85% "success" rate. That means that of the 17,000 who attempt suicide by gun every year, 15,000 succeed. If those people didn't have access to guns, the chance that they would successfully kill themselves drops dramatically.

According to Harvard, the method by which most people attempt suicide is drug overdose, yet only 3% of those who attempt suicide by drugs actually "succeed". So if all 17,000 who attempted suicide by gun couldn't and had to use another means, those other means would most likely be drug overdose, and if only 3% of drug overdose attempts are successful, instead of 15,000/17,000 dying from guns, it would only be 510. So we would likely save close to 15,000 lives every year if suicidal people couldn't get their hands on guns.

Criminal enterprise would become much more risky if the casual supply of guns from "responsible gun owners" was cut off. Then, the criminals would have to do wholesale heists, which are a much riskier proposition than simply breaking into someone's home or car and stealing whatever weapon they left unsecured.

Crime isn't controlled by guns; crime is affected by the economy. If you want less crime, then you need a better economy and more jobs so that people won't be desperate to turn to crime. This is achieved by raising the minimum wage and passing the infrastructure bill to stimulate the economy, two things you oppose.

So basically, your counter-argument to this is masturbation.


ou're dumber than a fucking rock snowflake. [/size]

You're so fucking stupid, a reality TV show host conned you into toiling his baggage for the rest of your life, not his.
 
LINK to this bullshit snowflake.


It's in what you quoted, dipshit:

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

43% of guns are acquired on the black market and another 6% are just legitimately stolen.

So that means half of guns, according to your link, are acquired illegally.

However, 100% of those guns were first bought legally by "responsible gun owners", then were...

(1) Stolen from the "responsible gun owner" and sold on the black market

or

(2) Lost by the "responsible gun owner" and sold on the black market

or

(3) Simply just sold on the black market by a "responsible gun owner" who needed cash.
 
So, unlike the founding fathers, you're of the mindset that we should all be guilty until proven innocent?????

"Responsible gun owners" have not proven that they can responsibly secure and store their weapons when 200,000 go missing every year, and 10% of the time y'all don't even tell the cops when they do.
 
Half are suicides. Do you think you are going to STOP suicides by banning guns.

You'll stop most of the 15,000 who die from suicide by gun every year because gun suicides are 85% effective, but no other method even comes close.

Guns aren't even the #1 preferred method people use to kill themselves, but they are the #1 most effective method for those who do.

Most people attempt suicide by drug overdose, but those are only 3% successful.

So since 17,000 attempt suicide by gun every year and 15,000 of them are successful, if you took those means away from them, they most likely would try to kill themselves with drugs instead, but they're not likely to succeed since only 3% of suicide attempts by drug overdose are actually successful.

So 3% of 17,000 is 510.

is 510 > or < 15,000?
 
"Responsible gun owners" have not proven that they can responsibly secure and store their weapons when 200,000 go missing every year, and 10% of the time y'all don't even tell the cops when they do.

and yet not a single one of my weapons has EVER been stolen............but you want to lump ME in with all the ones who have had a weapon go missing..........but rant, whine, and bawl about others doing something similar............talk about hypocrisy.

stupid fuck
 
and yet not a single one of my weapons has EVER been stolen

YET.

Haven't been stolen YET.

200,000 people like you say the exact same thing every year, and then they lose their guns and don't even tell the cops 10% of the time.

So 20,000 guns every year are just out there, somewhere, in the hands of who-fucking-knows? After 10 years, that's 200,000 guns that you and your "responsible gun owners" have handed to criminals and then not bothered to tell the cops.
 
You'll stop most of the 15,000 who die from suicide by gun every year

how the fuck do you plan on doing that when you can't keep guns off the streets of chicago with all those gun laws?

On top of that, states where they implemented registration schemes had about a 10% turnout........meaning most people will not comply with your dictatorship......

so whats your plan?
 
YET.

Haven't been stolen YET.

then my original statement stands. you are the opposite of freedom and justice. you are guilty until proven innocent.

apply that to voter registration and poll attendance. we are all guilty of voter fraud until we prove ourselves who we are with our picture/voter ID
 
how the fuck do you plan on doing that when you can't keep guns off the streets of chicago with all those gun laws?

First of all, most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago don't even come from Chicago.

Gary, IN, which has some of the weakest gun laws in the country, is a 30 minute drive from downtown Chicago.


On top of that, states where they implemented registration schemes had about a 10% turnout.

Right, which is why we need to compel mandatory registration because you and your fellow "responsible gun owners" struggle with being able to secure your weapons.


.meaning most people will not comply with your dictatorship.

It's not dictatorship to mandate you register your guns, unless you think it's a dictatorship for having to register your car.


so whats your plan?

Pit family members against each other; make the cost of owning a gun so prohibitive that the children of responsible gun owners steal their parents guns and turn them in for cash to pay for things like health care and tuition.

Mandate that every gun owner undergoes a mental health screening each year, and if they skip that screening, they lose their guns and can never get them back.

You miss one screening, you lose your guns for good.

That should add accountability where no accountability currently exists.
 
then my original statement stands. you are the opposite of freedom and justice. you are guilty until proven innocent.

Cry about it some more, then.

You lost the positive assumption when you couldn't bother to condemn the 200,000 "responsible gun owners" who lose their guns every year, nor do you get positive intent when you can't even think of a solution to that glaring problem.
 
Shouldn't you be sure of your facts before you start stripping Americans of their rights?

I do know the facts, and according to the CDC, guns are the #1 method of murder in this country.

So maybe shut your fucking mouth since this is the second time I've had to shut it for you.
 
I do know the facts, and according to the CDC, guns are the #1 method of murder in this country.

So maybe shut your fucking mouth since this is the second time I've had to shut it for you.

You post a lot but never with facts. Are you allergic to facts or do you just not like them?

You're free to try, honey. Word of advice: everyone who has tried has failed. :)
 
First of all, most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago don't even come from Chicago.

Gary, IN, which has some of the weakest gun laws in the country, is a 30 minute drive from downtown Chicago.
you have no proof of the above statement. you're making shit up to suit your theory

Right, which is why we need to compel mandatory registration because you and your fellow "responsible gun owners" struggle with being able to secure your weapons.

It's not dictatorship to mandate you register your guns, unless you think it's a dictatorship for having to register your car.
Register-Muskets.jpg and yes, I do think it's dictatorship to register my car..........or to get a 'license' to drive my property

Pit family members against each other; make the cost of owning a gun so prohibitive that the children of responsible gun owners steal their parents guns and turn them in for cash to pay for things like health care and tuition.

Mandate that every gun owner undergoes a mental health screening each year, and if they skip that screening, they lose their guns and can never get them back.

You miss one screening, you lose your guns for good.

That should add accountability where no accountability currently exists.

so, tyranny. I see alot of dead government agents and liberals who pushed it, so PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, PURSUE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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