Mental Illness is not to blame for gun violence

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Everyone is a law abiding gun owner until the moment they aren't...and that's not an acceptable standard.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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Then why do you want to supply criminals with guns?

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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If I do this, cause I've posted that link before, what do I get from you in return?

Cuz I'm not doing that work for nothing.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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Right, but that translates to 35,000+ annual deaths, or 30 9/11's, or 8,750 Benghazis.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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How does a gun get to the black market? By being stolen.

Guns don't "fall of a truck" and into the hands of common criminals. Sure, there are weapons traffickers, but the common criminal isn't a weapons trafficker.

So HALF of all guns used by criminals are acquired illegally, and 100% of all guns used by criminals were first sold legally to responsible gun owners.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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You'll stop most of the 15,000 who die from suicide by gun every year because gun suicides are 85% effective, but no other method even comes close.

Guns aren't even the #1 preferred method people use to kill themselves, but they are the #1 most effective method for those who do.

Most people attempt suicide by drug overdose, but those are only 3% successful.

So since 17,000 attempt suicide by gun every year and 15,000 of them are successful, if you took those means away from them, they most likely would try to kill themselves with drugs instead, but they're not likely to succeed since only 3% of suicide attempts by drug overdose are actually successful.

So 3% of 17,000 is 510.

is 510 > or < 15,000?

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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No, but we'll prevent gun murders, which are one of, if not the most predominant form of murder.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

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and yet not a single one of my weapons has EVER been stolen............but you want to lump ME in with all the ones who have had a weapon go missing..........but rant, whine, and bawl about others doing something similar............talk about hypocrisy.

stupid fuck

Yes, LyingVagina426 is also LYING stupid fuck.

 

[LV426]

43 percent of criminals[/b] had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.[/size][/i]

So any gun on the Black Market got there by theft or got there by necessity for the seller.

So you're saying half of all guns used by criminals were acquired illegally, and the source of those acquisitions were responsible gun owners.

Every single gun that lands in the hands of criminals started out as a legally-purchased weapon.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Larger fonts emphasize the profundity of Bullshit Blob's contributions.
We can all see that clearly.

 

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So any gun on the Black Market got there by theft or got there by necessity for the seller.

So you're saying half of all guns used by criminals were acquired illegally, and the source of those acquisitions were responsible gun owners.

Every single gun that lands in the hands of criminals started out as a legally-purchased weapon.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

[LV426]

[Repetitive propaganda

TD, your own post says that half of all guns used by criminals were acquired illegally, and they only were acquired illegally because they were first stolen or lost, or the original buyer of the gun decided to sell it illegally on the black market.

So what do you think you're proving with this? You're admitting that every single gun in the hands of criminals was first bought legally.

 

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TD, your own post says that half of all guns used by criminals were acquired illegally, and they only were acquired illegally because they were first stolen or lost, or the original buyer of the gun decided to sell it illegally on the black market.

So what do you think you're proving with this? You're admitting that every single gun in the hands of criminals was first bought legally.

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

[LV426]

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

So this means...

43% of criminals bought guns on the Black Market, which were guns that were either stolen, lost, or sold illegally.
6% of criminals stole their guns.
10% of criminals bought their guns
1% got them from a gun show

So...that doesn't add up to 100%...it adds up to 60%.

So you're saying 60% of criminals got guns?

 

[LV426]

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

Do you even understand what you're posting here?

 

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So this means...

43% of criminals bought guns on the Black Market, which were guns that were either stolen, lost, or sold illegally.
6% of criminals stole their guns.
10% of criminals bought their guns
1% got them from a gun show

So...that doesn't add up to 100%...it adds up to 60%.

So you're saying 60% of criminals got guns?

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

[Truth Detector]

Do you even understand what you're posting here?

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

 

[LV426]

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns

That only adds up to 60%.

So here's the actual breakdown, and it'll reveal that every single gun used by criminals was once a legally-purchased weapon by a "responsible gun owner":

43% of criminals buy guns on the Black Market, and how does a gun end up on the Black Market? It's either stolen or lost, or the original legal buyer of the gun decides to sell it illegally for cash.
15% of criminals get their guns from friends or relatives, who ostensibly bought the gun legally
12% of criminals got their gun from someone else bringing it to the scene. So that someone else bought that gun legally.
11% of criminals got their gun through straw purchase, and again, the gun in that straw purchase was first bought legally by a "responsible gun owner"
10% of criminals legally purchased their gun
6% of criminals steal their guns from "responsible gun owners" who purchased their gun legally
1% of criminals got their gun legally at a gun show

 

[LV426]

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns.

And every single one of those guns started out as a legally purchased weapon.

Thanks for proving that every single gun used by criminals started off as a legally purchased weapon by a "responsible gun owner".

So you are the sole and only supplier of guns to criminals.

 

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That only adds up to 60%.

So here's the actual breakdown, and it'll reveal that every single gun used by criminals was once a legally-purchased weapon by a "responsible gun owner":

43% of criminals buy guns on the Black Market, and how does a gun end up on the Black Market? It's either stolen or lost, or the original legal buyer of the gun decides to sell it illegally for cash.
15% of criminals get their guns from friends or relatives, who ostensibly bought the gun legally
12% of criminals got their gun from someone else bringing it to the scene. So that someone else bought that gun legally.
11% of criminals got their gun through straw purchase, and again, the gun in that straw purchase was first bought legally by a "responsible gun owner"
10% of criminals legally purchased their gun
6% of criminals steal their guns from "responsible gun owners" who purchased their gun legally
1% of criminals got their gun legally at a gun show

Although most crime is not committed with guns, most gun crime is committed with handguns. pages 1 & 2

By definition, stolen guns are available to criminals. The FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen gun file contains over 2 million reports; 60% are reports of stolen
handguns. page 3

Stolen guns are a source of weapons for criminals

All stolen guns are available to criminals by definition. Recent studies of adult and juvenile offenders show that many have either stolen a firearm or kept, sold, or traded a stolen firearm:

According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and 28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.

Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded stolen guns.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/GUIC.PDF

A 2019 survey conducted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) found that some 43 percent of criminals had bought their firearms on the black market, 6 percent acquired them via theft- and 10 percent made a retail purchase – 0.8 percent purchased a weapon from a gun show.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/where-do-criminals-get-guns