Morality is all in your mind.

Why does atheism need to "do" anything?
You really are too stupid to comprehend the ignorance in your posts. :palm:

Would you say that religion has given us a moral compass, incredible architecture and our most valued Constitution?

Therefore, what has atheism brought us? Pol Pot? Hitler? Stalin?
 
I guess I feel more "safe" around people who don't have to be TOLD by God that Murder is wrong and can reason why murder would be wrong without someone having to "decree it".

How do you think you arrived at that moral conclusion? Born with it? :palm:

But yes there is evidence that at least the core concept of an aversion to inter-group murder is instinctual in social animals.

Brainless bloviating. Is morality taught, or inherent?
 
How do you think you arrived at that moral conclusion? Born with it? :palm:

What moral conclusion?

Brainless bloviating. Is morality taught, or inherent?

Morality is predicated on instinctual drives which are evolutionarily developed to provide safety in a social network. Humans have an added dimension in having an intellect that is capable of envisioning alternative outcomes based on choices, as such we have the added ability to review our choices.
 
Without some kind of religious/metaphysical framework, you cannot claim there is a concept such absolute right and wrong; you cannot claim there is an objective morality. You have to admit morality is based on cultural tradition (which varies widely), opinion, or popular consensus.

Most people, including atheists, are keen to stake their reputation on a concept of absolute right and wrong because it is psychologically appealing.
This is correct. To claim morals are merely in ones mind is to ultimately promote chaos like we see in the world today unfortunately
 
There is nothing scientific or rational about risking your life and risking financial ruin to save thousands of strangers from the Nazis.

Everyone from evolutionary biologists to economists would call that an irrational act.
it's an investment in reciprocity.

and... we are on the cutting edge of moral development, as long we don;t let the evil "might makes right" totalitarians take control.

morality is entirely rational.

you deep state psychotic war hawks hate that fact.
 
There is nothing scientific or rational about risking your life and risking financial ruin to save thousands of strangers from the Nazis.

Everyone from evolutionary biologists to economists would call that an irrational act.
it's a moral sense super stimulus.

like a 14 inch BBC, but with morality.
 
There is nothing scientific or rational about risking your life and risking financial ruin to save thousands of strangers from the Nazis.

"But one newly discovered ant species goes above and beyond when it senses danger. It explodes — killing itself — and coats adversaries in a toxic yellow goo, the ultimate act of self-sacrifice to protect its colony." (WaPo)

"...salmon, and how much their stories are marked by sacrifice—traveling thousands of miles, offering their lives in service for those to come. Of course, salmon are not the only embodiments of earthly oblation; almost everywhere you look in nature, you see examples of self-sacrifice. Is it some kind of instinctive animal altruism or just an evolutionary urge to procreate? Could it be something in between?" (ATMOS)

Why some animals evolved to sacrifice themselves (National Geographic)​

Everyone from evolutionary biologists to economists would call that an irrational act.

Except they don't.
 
This is correct. To claim morals are merely in ones mind is to ultimately promote chaos like we see in the world today unfortunately
Our moral conscience is in our mind, I just don't see an evolutionary biology explanation for certain acts of moral rectitude. The DNA molecule doesn't care about absolute right and wrong.

There's enough blame to go around for chaos. I don't think most Christians actually put that much effort into living out the Christian ideal. On the flipside, most atheists seem to be reticent to follow their atheism to it's logical conclusion.
 
Our moral conscience is in our mind, I just don't see an evolutionary biology explanation for certain acts of moral rectitude. The DNA molecule doesn't care about absolute right and wrong.

There's enough blame to go around for chaos. I don't think most Christians actually put that much effort into living out the Christian ideal. On the flipside, most atheists seem to be reticent to follow their atheism to it's logical conclusion.
thoughts and behaviors are part of evolution. especially for intelligent beings like humans.

you just hate morality because you're a deep state criminal.
 
Our moral conscience is in our mind, I just don't see an evolutionary biology explanation for certain acts of moral rectitude. The DNA molecule doesn't care about absolute right and wrong.

There's enough blame to go around for chaos. I don't think most Christians actually put that much effort into living out the Christian ideal. On the flipside, most atheists seem to be reticent to follow their atheism to it's logical conclusion.
Ill repeat it again. If morals are just in the mind then no one can say killing is wrong if someones mind says it's moral.

You're right about Christians. The problem is the simple minded think that because some and maybe even lots of Christians behave badly, then the teachings of Christianity is bad. That's moronic at best.
 
Our moral conscience is in our mind, I just don't see an evolutionary biology explanation for certain acts of moral rectitude.

Even though you have been shown many examples. I think what you mean to say is you don't believe any evolutionary biologist on this topic.


There's enough blame to go around for chaos. I don't think most Christians actually put that much effort into living out the Christian ideal. On the flipside, most atheists seem to be reticent to follow their atheism to it's logical conclusion.

Your opinion on how atheists should live their lives is exactly as welcome as you would expect. Even moreso given your apparent cartoon view of atheism.
 
Not really an oxymoron, objective morality, concepts of absolute right and wrong are so psychologically appealing that even strict physical materialists often want to borrow it.
I really have no idea what you are referring to. You need to realize "objective" does not mean "objectively true."
 
You really are too stupid to comprehend the ignorance in your posts. :palm:

Would you say that religion has given us a moral compass, incredible architecture and our most valued Constitution?

Therefore, what has atheism brought us? Pol Pot? Hitler? Stalin?
"Would you say that religion has given us a moral compass, incredible architecture and our most valued Constitution? "

No. No man has ever spoken to a god to be given moral direction. Morality came from man and man leveraged human gullibility (a fear of an imaginary sky wizard) to force whatever morality they came up with at the time. That's why Christians had to explain away the teachings of the Old Testament which were clearly immoral later standards.

People who believed in gods designed architecture and the constitution. That isn't the same as "religion" giving us those things.

Christians have also committed the largest majority of the murders in the country, committed the majority of the child abuse, infidelity, etc.
 
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