My View on "Things"

Agnosticus_Caesar said:
Most churches don't preach the philosophy of Christianity. They preach the modern equivalent of what Jesus fought against...Mindless Law-Mongering.

I guess they feel it is okay to dumb it down, as long as the pews (and the collection plates) are full.
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Hasn't that been America's motto for the last thirty years?
 
Hummm...

Watermark said:
No one is evil. Evil is an emotional tag people put on other people whenever they refuse to understand them and wall them up with indifference.
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Well I would say it is fair to assume that the likes of Jeffrey Dohmer and Charlie Manson as well as all other serial killers could be considered "Evil"
What say you???
 
Well I would say it is fair to assume that the likes of Jeffrey Dohmer and Charlie Manson as well as all other serial killers could be considered "Evil"
What say you???

No. Evil is a description of an act. The act of murder is, IMO, evil, but to state that an individual is evil doesn't really fit. They are people who commit evil acts..
 
Agnosticus_Caesar said:
Some misuse the idea that "All sin, and fall short of the glory of God", as an excuse for doing wrong. I see so-called Christians use it as if it EXCUSED their behavior. It doesn't EXCUSE anything.

It simply shows that one is human, and WILL fail. The point is to TRY to remedy said failure, and GROW towards God. Using it as an EXCUSE will NOT cause one to change their behavior. It will only give one an excuse to continue to do it again and again.
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LOL, I've heard that so many times it makes me want to puke. It's really one of the biggest problems with the "saved by faith" philosophy - someone gets "saved" then feels this gives them a right to do whatever they want for the rest of their life.
 
Watermark said:
LOL, I've heard that so many times it makes me want to puke. It's really one of the biggest problems with the "saved by faith" philosophy - someone gets "saved" then feels this gives them a right to do whatever they want for the rest of their life.
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You prefer old testament legalism? Figures, noahide who don't know it.
 
uscitizen said:
Christianity exists because of a subserviant mentality.
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Actually, jesus was a rebel.

The Church in cahoots with the Brother In the Craft made him seem stodgy and comformist. He hung with prostitutes.

The Rebel Jesus (4:21) albums · lyrics


Original recording from the chieftains album the bells of dublin

All the streets are filled with laughter and light
And the music of the season
And the merchants windows are all bright
With the faces of the children
And the families hurrying to their homes
As the sky darkens and freezes
Theyll be gathering around the hearths and tales
Giving thanks for all gods graces
And the birth of the rebel jesus

Well they call him by the prince of peace
And they call him by the savior
And they pray to him upon the seas
And in every bold endeavor
As they fill his churches with their pride and gold
And their faith in him increases
But theyve turned the nature that I worshipped in
From a temple to a robbers den
In the words of the rebel jesus

We guard our world with locks and guns
And we guard our fine possessions
And once a year when christmas comes
We give to our relations
And perhaps we give a little to the poor
If the generosity should seize us
But if any one of us should interfere
In the business of why they are poor
They get the same as the rebel jesus

But please forgive me if I seem
To take the tone of judgement
For Ive no wish to come between
This day and your enjoyment
In this life of hardship and of earthly toil
We have need for anything that frees us
So I bid you pleasure
And I bid you cheer
From a heathen and a pagan
On the side of the rebel jesus.
 
The Brothers in the Craft? First you are upset because they don't teach Christianity and accept all people who have a faith in God, then you say they teach Christianity? What is wrong with you?
 
Actually, jesus was a rebel.
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yes he was a radical liberal.
but that does not diminish my point that Christianity 's existance depends on subserviant people.

besides I do not think he would have like how the religion in his name has turned out.
 
uscitizen said:
Actually, jesus was a rebel.
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yes he was a radical liberal.
but that does not diminish my point that Christianity 's existance depends on subserviant people.

besides I do not think he would have like how the religion in his name has turned out.
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If you believe that christianity is only the church with it's self sure pastors I agree. If you consider that my belief in my interpretation of the message of christ, an elitism free, people first approach to living, then I disagree that that requires a subservient mind.
 
AssHatZombie said:
If you believe that christianity is only the church with it's self sure pastors I agree. If you consider that my belief in my interpretation of the message of christ, an elitism free, people first approach to living, then I disagree that that requires a subservient mind.
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Worship the Lord, lamb of god, the lord is my sheperd, etc ? Right or wrong Christians are subserviant. You are not a Christian unless you are.
 
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