New Testament scholarship

Cypress said:
Considering his modest background, he is probably the most well attested and well known peasant in ancient history.

In addition to the outlined facts in the OP, we have historically reliable data about where he was from, about his parents, about his siblings, about his education and his literacy, and that he had a public ministry
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yeah don't care
 
Hume said:
Art history is about art, not Christianity.
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LOL. Christianity makes up a HUGE amount of western Art historically.

It certainly helps make sense of things like this:

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Hume said:
You do know that ART HISTORY is not about religion. Do you know what "art" refers to?!
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I've spent SO MUCH time in art galleries. The Louvre on many, many occasions, Kaisma in Helsinki, The Guggenheim, the Getty, the Prado, The Met, Musee D'Orsay, the Vatican Museum as well as crawled through countless medieval cathedrals from St. Denis (the first gothic cathedral) to Notre Dame (before the fire) to Yorkminster, St. Peter's in Rome, countless cathedrals scattered around Spain, France, Belgium, Finland, Norway, England, Ireland, Italy etc. and I can say with absolute certainty that Christianity forms a great deal of western art history. And I've got quite a few books around here on Medieval art.

It explains the metaphors and allegories used in the paintings.

While Christianity does not cover ALL of art (that's absurd) it certainly plays a HUGE role in the history of art in the West.
 
Daylight63 said:
I've spent SO MUCH time in art galleries. The Louvre on many, many occasions, Kaisma in Helsinki, The Guggenheim, the Getty, the Prado, The Met, Musee D'Orsay, the Vatican Museum as well as crawled through countless medieval cathedrals from St. Denis (the first gothic cathedral) to Notre Dame (before the fire) to Yorkminster, St. Peter's in Rome, countless cathedrals scattered around Spain, France, Belgium, Finland, Norway, England, Ireland, Italy etc. and I can say with absolute certainty that Christianity forms a great deal of western art history. And I've got quite a few books around here on Medieval art.

It explains the metaphors and allegories used in the paintings.

While Christianity does not cover ALL of art (that's absurd) it certainly plays a HUGE role in the history of art in the West.
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gosh, you went to galleries
 
Hume said:
Not controversial, just false.
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I'm honestly not sure where you are getting that from. I mean one can pick up pretty much any random art history book and read that it is. Many of the greatest artists in western art came out of traditions in which the CHURCH was the primary benefactor and provided commissions.

Have you never been to the Sistine Chapel?

Hume said:
You really know nothing.
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You seem really antagonistic and I'm not sure why. I actually like talking to you but you often put out the spikeys for no real reason.

I do know something about art and art history. I've been around. Who knows....maybe I've been to more places and seen more historic art than you have.

I don't see you actually supporting your claim. I don't know what your background in art is, but I'd be very interested to know why that which is pretty common knowledge does not meet your standards.
 
Hume said:
lost interest

sorry, you know nothing
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I sense I may know more art history than you do. But that's cool. Not everyone has the same interests. I can see that art is another of those topics you don't really care about (like Christianity).
 
Hume said:
You sense wrong.
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I know you've said you lost interest but if you DO know about Art history then I'm genuinely curious why you think western art does not contain within its history a HUGE input from the Christian faith.

If you are unable to explain that then I'm left with only one conclusion.

Hume said:
You know very little and think you know everything.
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Actually I don't think I know everything. Which is why I ask people like you questions.

I've told you what my bona fides in the area are. And I've explained why my point is more likely correct.

All you've done so far is simply tell me I'm wrong. It is impossible to learn from that.

If you know more, then please share it.


 
Daylight63 said:
I know you've said you lost interest but if you DO know about Art history then I'm genuinely curious why you think western art does not contain within its history a HUGE input from the Christian faith.
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You know very little. Sorry, not interested.
 
Daylight63 said:
Actually I don't think I know everything. Which is why I ask people like you questions.

I've told you what my bona fides in the area are. And I've explained why my point is more likely correct.

All you've done so far is simply tell me I'm wrong. It is impossible to learn from that.

If you know more, then please share it.
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I do know more.
 
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