Now Do You Understand the Importance of Voting?

Hello Kacper,



It would only be hubris if I thought they would vote that way because I thought I was always right. That's not the case. I can make mistakes. I understand I am human, that humans make mistakes. Shoot. I used to engage with trolls. Yes, I can make mistakes alright. I also think that since I know and admit that, and live with it, that I have benefited from learning from my mistakes. I've gotten wiser in my years. It's OK to make a mistake if you are honest with yourself about it and you try to learn a lesson from it.

As for the implications of the 2016 election? Spot on comment in the OP.

I think that if more Americans really understood the importance of voting (and obviously they didn't,) they would have voted against Trump.

Look at it this way. Trump and his followers spent all the money they could amass to get him elected. Anybody who might have been drawn to support him already was. He has not won over many people since. But a lot of people who did not vote, do not approve of what is going on. And Trump's job approval ratings have been consistently below his support level on election day. That means he has not only not gained more followers, he has lost some of the ones he had on election day. His support is less than half the nation. That means most of the nation does not support him or what he is doing. That is why it is accurate to say if more Americans truly understood the implications of that election, and they decided to vote, they would vote against, and not for, Donald Trump.

Again with the hubris. Your priorities are not always their priorities. You might think they should have voted for Clinton because they could benefit from free healthcare. They might think that Trump was the better choice because their uncle works in a coal mine or because they are a farmer who is tired of having to deal with regulatory strangleholds over water use or because there is a wet weather spring on their property or their farm has a waterway through it.
 
Hello Kacper,

Again with the hubris. Your priorities are not always their priorities.

False call. At no point did I mention my priorities.

You might think they should have voted for Clinton because they could benefit from free healthcare.

I did not say that. My view is based on election numbers and current poll numbers. President Trump's job approval is below his election numbers. He has lost support since being elected. 51.5% now disapprove of his job performance.

Real Clear Politics Poll Averages

They might think that Trump was the better choice because their uncle works in a coal mine or because they are a farmer who is tired of having to deal with regulatory strangleholds over water use or because there is a wet weather spring on their property or their farm has a waterway through it.

I am not arguing why the numbers exist, merely stating them and using them as a basis for conjecture. I'm sure some feel as you describe. I also understand most do not.
 
False call. At no point did I mention my priorities.

I think that if more Americans really understood the importance of voting (and obviously they didn't,) they would have voted against Trump.

Clearly :awesome:

Pretending that you "understand" something others do not is the pinnacle of hubris. You are just finding a more cocktail party way of calling Trump supporters Deplorables because they are not as enlightened as you see yourself. My doctor, lawyer, and CPA all supported Trump. These are not redneck, uneducated trailer park racists. They are, however, businessmen who were absolutely sick of the red tape for businesses caused by Obamacare that was pricing healthcare to the point that they had to stop providing health insurance to the employees they were never required to provide health insurance to to begin with because it was such an exponentially expensive thing to be doing.

Anyway, I voted for Stein with the hope that it would help a third party get federal matching funds. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted in the general election. I guess I will never "really understand" in your mind.
 
Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

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Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

okyou-leftist-liberal-crybabies-show-me-on-this-doll-where-26282067.png
 

Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

zB7Up.jpg
 

Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

zB7Up.jpg
 
Hello Kacper,

Clearly :awesome:

Pretending that you "understand" something others do not is the pinnacle of hubris.

Do you not believe it is possible to understand something which others do not?

You are just finding a more cocktail party way of calling Trump supporters Deplorables because they are not as enlightened as you see yourself.

I didn't say anything about that. You're reading way more into my comment.

My doctor, lawyer, and CPA all supported Trump.

I don't disagree that some professionals support Trump. It should be noted the more of them disapprove of him.

These are not redneck, uneducated trailer park racists.

That's all fine and well. I must point out that Trump did very well in trailer parks. He loves the uneducated.

They are, however, businessmen who were absolutely sick of the red tape for businesses caused by Obamacare that was pricing healthcare to the point that they had to stop providing health insurance to the employees they were never required to provide health insurance to to begin with because it was such an exponentially expensive thing to be doing.

That's capitalism for ya. If all the profits were cut out of healthcare, it could be done a lot cheaper. Profits represent a very significant proportion of the cost of health care. Take that away, it would be a lot less. The rewards go to the owners and stock holders of health care corporations, generally the richer 50% of America, mostly the richest 1%. And that all comes at the expense of everyone else, except the poorest who pay little to nothing. It's mostly the rich ripping off the middle class.

Anyway, I voted for Stein with the hope that it would help a third party get federal matching funds. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted in the general election. I guess I will never "really understand" in your mind.

I'm glad you voted. I think you understand a lot and you have your reasons for voting the way you did.
 
Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

okyou-leftist-liberal-crybabies-show-me-on-this-doll-where-26282067.png
 
Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

okyou-leftist-liberal-crybabies-show-me-on-this-doll-where-26282067.png
 
All those folks who stayed home because they were pissed about Bernie...or who listened to the Russian Agitprop and saw Clinton the way the GOP wanted you to see her, or simply had something else to do..

THIS is the result. Trump...and Supreme Court and lower court Justices who will be on the bench for a generation, They will roll back abortion rights, civil rights, and labor rights and protections.

They will roll back even the most basic gun control laws.

We have ONE chance to correct this and that is the mid-term election. If Dems fail to take back the House and more importantly the Senate next year...the window closes.

There will be no checks on the insanity that is Trump.

they will NEVER have the consent of the governed people

if we don't stop them the fight will last a lifetime

but it wont EVER end
 

Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

zB7Up.jpg
 

Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

zB7Up.jpg
 
Hello evince,

they will NEVER have the consent of the governed people

if we don't stop them the fight will last a lifetime

but it wont EVER end

You believe there is some reason current USA political differences can be settled within your lifetime?

Consider this: Some battles may take longer than a single individual's lifetime.
 
Hello evince,



You believe there is some reason current USA political differences can be settled within your lifetime?

Consider this: Some battles may take longer than a single individual's lifetime.

you don't seem to understand whats at stake right now
 
Hello evince,



You believe there is some reason current USA political differences can be settled within your lifetime?

Consider this: Some battles may take longer than a single individual's lifetime.

I suspect this is one such battle...or war.

The Trump election...has turned our nation into a swamp. Just the campaign...did lasting damage.

We will be dealing with the skunge of this president and this administration for generations to come.
 
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