Obama's idea to attack Al-Quaeda within Pakistan nets Senior Al-Qaeda leader
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The Almighty
The reason none have been provided is that there aren't any. They are embarrassed that we saw through the moveon.org parrot line so easily.
Otherwise we would have numerous links to all of McCains "war-mongering" statements.
I actually thought they would. I have been disappointed by the lack of any valid response and the desperate attempt at "other posters say the same thing" as evidence.
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I am sure they are desperately looking for something. Just don't hold your breath.... and don't be shocked when the next reply you get from one of them is .... "but he sang bomb Iran"
At least you admit it.pathetic.
I have no problems admitting that you're state of denial about McCain's warmongering ways are pathetic. The man will continue to escalate the war, is an elected official that has no problem publicly singing about invading another country, and has stated he has no problems with us being in Iraq 100 years despite the fact that peace is not on the horizon. Yes, Republican apologists are pathetic.
Have you noticed how much clean-up work Damo has been doing for SF lately Tiana? What do the they call that guy, the fourth batter? The clean-up guy I think?
Anyway, that’s Damo’s job lately; to follow SF around the board expressing faux outrage at the treatment meted out to the poster most likely to be suffering from mad cow disease; Super Freak.
It’s because they’re both war-supporters, though Damo is a not a war supporter war supporter. And they’re both not a bush supporter bush supporters.
Now that it’s election time, they’re showing their hands more. And, to be fair, Damo has a nicer disposition.
Ron Paul cratered; his Grand Wizard ties were confirmed, and for the Libertarian/Repbulican/But-I'm-Not-a-Bush-Supporter crowd, they're coming out of the closet to support the Iraq war. While saying they don't really support the Iraq War. Tough job, tough sell. It'd make me cranky.
True enough, even Cawacko came down with it, going off about sluts and whores asking for it. Even still, few can match the seething fury of SF.
I guess this is going to be an interesting election.
I could come up with quite a bit of them notifying people of Bush's urge to attack Iraq before 9/11 even. Nothing at all from McCain but a silly song and a wish to restore security to a nation we currently occupy? Yeah, your attempts to keep up with no evidence are pathetic as you said, and your weakness is only hammered in each post without any evidence.
A while back, when attempting to defend something about Bush, I realized when you get to this sad place where you have two pieces of contrived evidence and nothing else. It is best to put down the shovel or you will find yourself in a very deep hole.
I asked for one thing other than your two pieces of sad contrived "evidence" just one. I could find at least 20 for Bush from before 9/11... You can't even find one. Sad and pathetic indeed.
A while back, when attempting to defend something about Bush, I realized when you get to this sad place where you have two pieces of contrived evidence and nothing else. It is best to put down the shovel or you will find yourself in a very deep hole.
I asked for one thing other than your two pieces of sad contrived "evidence" just one. I could find at least 20 for Bush from before 9/11... You can't even find one. Sad and pathetic indeed.
I'm not asking you to "play" I'm asking for one link that isn't a plan to increase security in Iraq or a stupid joke song sang foolishly before giving a totally different answer.
Anyway, Bush consistently spoke of how he thought that America should take a "more active" role in Regime Change during the 2000 election. Considering that the Congress had voted for the 1998 Regime Change, the only way to get more active was what exactly?
Hmmm... So actually discussing it with Congress. Wow, that is sure "mongering" there.
Bush says, "We should escalate and work more directly for regime change in Iraq." That is mongering, IMO.
McCain says, in answer to a question asked directly about war with Iran follows the constitution. (paraphrasing) "I would consult Congress. I think they (Iran) may do something stupid sometime soon, I hope not, but they may."
Yeah. If that is "mongering" then Obama's (paraphrasing) "Yeah, I'd bomb Pakistan without any diplomatic talks if intelligence said I should." Is definitely "mongering".
Your OWN candidate...the candidate you enthusiastically backed, calls McCain a warmonger.
Reagan paleoconservative Pat Buchannon thinks McCain wants more war:
Uber-war hawk and noted NeoCon John Bolton thinks McCain is MORE hawkish on Iran than Bush
So now we are back to the "He said it too!" as evidence. Weak, so very very weak. Adding more people to the list of "He said it too!" is not evidence of him promoting a war with anybody.
LOL. Again, somebody else calling him a warmonger is not evidence, even if it is Ron Paul.
And "Stronger than Bush" on Iran. What does that mean? Bush has done nothing there, McCain suggested Diplomacy. His "remarks" that Bolton is speaking of are the one that you posted before that he'd "Consult with Congress." Wow. I'm impressed.
And Pat Buchanan saying that he thinks we'll be at war with Iran is not impressive as evidence of "war mongering". Didn't Buchanan predict an attack of some sort by the end of 2007? He's not very good at that.
In order to show evidence of McCain "war mongering" you'd have to show me how he has promoted actually going to war with these people without regard to public opinion or to congress.
So far, you have not provided evidence other than "They think so too!" Which has already been discredited. It doesn't matter if it is "LadyT thinks so too, or Bolton thinks so too!" They are both not evidence of him war mongering.
Once again, any current statement by him actually promoting going to war with Iran, shoot with anybody at all, would be acceptable as evidence of "war mongering".
Now more "Hawkish", that is an opinion, they are like a-holes, everybody has at least one. But "Mongering" denotes an urge to promote it without responsibility, in order to prove "mongering" I need an actual promotion of a war. Something like, "I think we should go to war" or "I think diplomacy has failed" that one would work too.
Basically, I have asked directly several times for one statement of McCain's that actually has him saying that we should go to war with another nation, like Bush did when he spoke of failed diplomacy. So far you have given me, "I would consult Congress." and a stupid joke before speaking of diplomacy (at least you found a link with McCain actually saying something, better than most have even attempted). And then continued with the "They think it too!" strategy.
So far all I have is talking points and think progress links with the "they agree with me" tagline or actual quotes of McCain's saying he would actually do what the constitution says and consult congress. Wow, yeah. Again, if that is what constitutes "war mongering" then Obama's "I'd attack in Pakistan without any diplomatic permission if intel says we should." is definitely "mongering".