Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

A statement and a question:
The way the left presents this statistic, " supported by over 90% of the American people" causes low information people(i.e. the lefties)to believe that there is NO background check required when purchasing a firearm. This is incorrect, and it is why, when I discuss this topic with my godless communist friends, I tell them that I am NOT in favor of background checks. This is the only way I can have any kind of discussion with them. The key word you always leave out of the topic is "ENHANCED". Ask that same 90% if they support "ENHANCED" background checks, and the percentage is going to drop fast. Included in that 90% is going to be a lot of gun owners that just don't trust the gun grabbers. Therein lies my question(a two-parter): First, just what IS this ENHANCED background check? And second, What does it accomplish that the current system does not?

Total BULLSHIT! You gun lickers won't even admit there is a gun show loophole. If the NRA told you turds were hot dogs, you morons would open a turd stand.
 
But...and again....sorry...the key part to STY's paragraph is "for her safety"....Christ....I can't believe I'm defending STY.

If she is THAT concerned (an abused wife is trying to leave her abusive cop husband, but in her terror she wants to buy a gun) "for her safety", a gun is FALSE security. Her best avenue is a LEGAL one.

It is much more likely that if she brings a gun into a domestic confrontation, it will end with that gun being discharged and they will carry HER out in a body bag. And if she is lucky enough to beat the odds, SHE will be facing a charge of HOMICIDE.

Turn off the TV detective shows and join the REAL world.
 
Turn off the TV detective shows and join the REAL world.

Exactly.

Some people are too wrapped up in nonsense, others use women for their own agenda, knowing full well what the statistics tell us. They. Don't. Care.
 
If she is THAT concerned (an abused wife is trying to leave her abusive cop husband, but in her terror she wants to buy a gun) "for her safety", a gun is FALSE security. Her best avenue is a LEGAL one.

It is much more likely that if she brings a gun into a domestic confrontation, it will end with that gun being discharged and they will carry HER out in a body bag. And if she is lucky enough to beat the odds, SHE will be facing a charge of HOMICIDE.

Turn off the TV detective shows and join the REAL world.

Yeah, because we all know a restraining order or complaint with the police is going to stop an abusive husband from coming after his wife. Well actually it must right because domestic abuse from a male to female isn't really an issue is it?
 
The people in this country cant get half of the reps to represent more than 10% of this country.


That is NOT democracy.


what you fail to understand is that discussion about background checks has already been had in this country.


The people want then to the tune of 90%.


why is it this is not law?


becuase the republican party is jam packed full of BOUGHT polititians.


Because you Gerrymandered your way into office.


the people noticed.


enjoy your last mouthful of tar on the way down into the pit Dino
 
Turn off the TV detective shows and join the REAL world.

Exactly.

Some people are too wrapped up in nonsense, others use women for their own agenda, knowing full well what the statistics tell us. They. Don't. Care.


can you say sociopaths
 
can you say sociopaths

Sociopaths? Who? Abusive men? Absolutely....I read the article. Statistics can be manipulated. Just out of curiosity..and the article doesn't state....how many abused women that acquire a gun AFTER separation end up dying by the hands of their abusers? How many of them who successfully defend themselves against their attackers are actually charged? How many of those charged are convicted?
 
Sociopaths? Who? Abusive men? Absolutely....I read the article. Statistics can be manipulated. Just out of curiosity..and the article doesn't state....how many abused women that acquire a gun AFTER separation end up dying by the hands of their abusers? How many of them who successfully defend themselves against their attackers are actually charged? How many of those charged are convicted?

She is referring to Republicans.
 
the people who would take blood money from the NRA and vote against background checks.

Those assholes are sociopaths.

the peopel who CHEER them for doing so are sociopaths.

4 in 100 people are sociopaths.

thats alot of fucking sociopaths.
 
Sociopaths? Who? Abusive men? Absolutely....I read the article. Statistics can be manipulated. Just out of curiosity..and the article doesn't state....how many abused women that acquire a gun AFTER separation end up dying by the hands of their abusers? How many of them who successfully defend themselves against their attackers are actually charged? How many of those charged are convicted?

Yeah. Well your conscience is clear then. We can dismiss anything with that. How many died in Iraq during the initial shock and awe? Well we really don't know because many were basically evaporated, and anyway, statistics can be manipulated.

La de da.

Why would you want answers to your other diverting questions? After all, any answer would rely on statistics, and they can be manipulated.

WHy don't you guys just post:

I DON'T CARE.

Be fucking honest.
 
And I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about guns or background checks. I understand it is mostly fanatics who post here. America's mind does not changing on this. America's mind is very sensible on this topic.

All I'm saying is, stop exploiting abused and dead women. The facts are not on your side. Keep them out of your agenda. Your fanatical agenda. STFU about it. Use something else. It's so low and crawling. It makes me sick. Guns are used to murder women. And in order to support your agenda you attempt to claim the exact opposite. Shut up.
 
If she is THAT concerned (an abused wife is trying to leave her abusive cop husband, but in her terror she wants to buy a gun) "for her safety", a gun is FALSE security. Her best avenue is a LEGAL one.

It is much more likely that if she brings a gun into a domestic confrontation, it will end with that gun being discharged and they will carry HER out in a body bag. And if she is lucky enough to beat the odds, SHE will be facing a charge of HOMICIDE.

Turn off the TV detective shows and join the REAL world.
adopting the brady campaign bullshit serves you badly. they do not tell the truth when it comes to reality.
 
And I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about guns or background checks. I understand it is mostly fanatics who post here. America's mind does not changing on this. America's mind is very sensible on this topic.

All I'm saying is, stop exploiting abused and dead women. The facts are not on your side. Keep them out of your agenda. Your fanatical agenda. STFU about it. Use something else. It's so low and crawling. It makes me sick. Guns are used to murder women. And in order to support your agenda you attempt to claim the exact opposite. Shut up.
Darla, kindly fuck off and die. you are batshit crazy.
 
Yeah. Well your conscience is clear then. We can dismiss anything with that. How many died in Iraq during the initial shock and awe? Well we really don't know because many were basically evaporated, and anyway, statistics can be manipulated.

La de da.

Why would you want answers to your other diverting questions? After all, any answer would rely on statistics, and they can be manipulated.

WHy don't you guys just post:

I DON'T CARE.

Be fucking honest.

Wtf? Darla....who do you think you're talking to? A Conservative? If you are going to attack my character...why don't you get to know it first? I am a Democrat and for the most part, a progressive...

Don't you DARE tell me that because my opinion differs than yours on this subject, that I don't care.

I am FOR background checks....I am FOR abusive and unstable people not being allowed to own guns. I am for getting rid of legal loopholes that allow them to have them.

What I am AGAINST is not allowing women the chance to defend themselves as they see fit.

So....is this the way it is with you Darla? All or nothing? I have to tow the progressive line on every issue or be deemed a traitor to the ideology?

If that's the case....then you are no better than the batshit crazies on the Conservative side.
 
Wtf? Darla....who do you think you're talking to? A Conservative? If you are going to attack my character...why don't you get to know it first? I am a Democrat and for the most part, a progressive...

Don't you DARE tell me that because my opinion differs than yours on this subject, that I don't care.

I am FOR background checks....I am FOR abusive and unstable people not being allowed to own guns. I am for getting rid of legal loopholes that allow them to have them.

What I am AGAINST is not allowing women the chance to defend themselves as they see fit.

So....is this the way it is with you Darla? All or nothing? I have to tow the progressive line on every issue or be deemed a traitor to the ideology?

If that's the case....then you are no better than the batshit crazies on the Conservative side.

Yeah sure whatever.
 
I don't know why I do this. I know no one here is actually interested, it's all about the agenda. The Gun Agenda.

But I guess I talk to myself anyway, I know I do in the office, so, here you go for anyone interested in the actual devastating facts about women and guns (which I understand is no one).

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2013/03/20/the-domestic-abusers-lobby/

The article does not mention anything about women who get guns after leaving the abusive husband. Once they move out, then having a gun on hand is more likely to help them than hurt them if they are trained on how to use it. Unless of course the woman was not willing to use the gun if confronted... which given their history, I can understand.
 
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