Putin fears NATO

ThatOwlWoman said:
It is, and best not left up to blowhard failed TV game show hosts who enjoy their megalomania.
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Well, sold as a 'successful businessman', trump exposed the truth that he knows very little about the complexities of not only business, but the world economy. He thinks foreign trade is a zero sum game.

He's very good at stealing low hanging fruit in semi legal taxpayer funded scams, though
 
Cypress said:
The most convincing evidence that Biden made the right call ending George Dumbya Bush's war is the fact that Republicans aren't even counting on Afghanistan as a major campaign issue.

They had to stoop to stupid shit like cancel culture and CRT to fuel their campaigns.
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There are too many other major Biden screw ups.. You are really going to be spinning the next few months
but the world knows Biden is a screw up

The "most convincing evidence" is what fellow coalition partners said about the Evac:

US allies tear into Biden administration over Afghanistan ‘failure’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-allies-tear-into-biden-administration-over-afghanistan-debacle/

Afghanistan troop withdrawals slammed as 'NATO's biggest debacle
https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/16...hanistan-troop-withdrawals-as-taliban-advance
London and Washington have both been sending troops back to Kabul to secure the exit of British and American nationals from Afghanistan in the face of the Taliban advance.

Former UK chief of defence staff Lord Richards said he was "almost ashamed", describing the move as "a gross, dismal failure of geostrategy and of statecraft... an admission of failure and a desire to pull people out."
 
BartenderElite said:
As for the equipment, it wasn't sitting on pallets in safe territory waiting to airlifted. You can't complain about casualties then say we should have put troops in harm's way to retrieve it.
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WTF are you yammering???
an ORDERLY WITHDRAWAL plans for removal of weapons.

1.civilians and support staff including the embassy ( which Biden kept open to the last)
2.weapons and property. remove what you can / scuttle what you can't ( Biden didn't even attempt this)
3. military pulls up the rug and they fly our from Baghram
4. military had to be inserted to get civilians
and some green card holders and US citizen were still left behind
 
Cypress said:
The MAGA contingent on this forum practically guaranteed Americans would be kidnapped and beheaded
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the ONLY reason they weren't execued was due to the grace of the Taliban
we were in Kabul ( not a military base) and EZ prey for Haqqani and Taliban
Bidedn stupidly put those live at risk "fortunately "only 13 were blown up and dozens maimed
 
Althea said:
Only morons who regurgitate Hannity/Carlson pablum would mention Bagram. Of course Dummkopf/Express know more than the military does. This was discussed in detail on real news stations when MAGA was talking about Bagram
Why Bagram wouldn’t have made a difference, and more about the Afghanistan exit plan


[FONT=&]Senior military leaders took to Capitol Hill for the second day in a row on Wednesday, to answer questions from lawmakers [/FONT]
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LMAO at the CYA
if it was an orderly withdrawal those 40 miles would not be done in a hasty retreat.
Meaning planned convoys over a period of time, taking out batches of civilians from Kabul
with military cover

It's hilarious when this 'moran' thinks he understands military logistics! :rofl2::rofl2:
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
The self-absorbed sometimes forget that the power of the world is against you when you decide to attack a sovereign nation that did you no harm.
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Afghan facilitated terrorism
dont you even remember the "terrorists training camps?"

you can argue the war - but you can't claim the Taliban were innocents pre- 9/11
 
Cypress said:
Given the obvious superiority of NATO weapons, technology, and organizational doctrine, it's not surprising that Putin and his shattered army fear provoking NATO.
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Perhaps, it took decades for alliances to develop advanced technologies to deal with the red threat against humanity and for sure giving the lawlessly hacked in POS tRump sewer atrocity the boot probably enhanced that defense.
 
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anatta said:
Afghan facilitated terrorism
dont you even remember the "terrorists training camps?"

you can argue the war - but you can't claim the Taliban were innocents pre- 9/11
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You can CERTAINLY argue that the original Taliban - loosely connected to bin Laden- were all wiped out during the first days of the invasion and that the ' Taliban ' - who defeated the USA in the long run- were simply Afghans defending their country from invasion, the same sector of Afghan society that beat the Russians.
 
moon said:
You can CERTAINLY argue that the original Taliban - loosely connected to bin Laden- were all wiped out during the first days of the invasion and that the ' Taliban ' - who defeated the USA in the long run- were simply Afghans defending their country from invasion, the same sector of Afghan society that beat the Russians.
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except the Taliban originally came from Pakistan,
and the TTP Taliban provided the leadership for the Afghan Taliban
 
anatta said:
the ONLY reason they weren't execued was due to the grace of the Taliban
we were in Kabul ( not a military base) and EZ prey for Haqqani and Taliban
Bidedn stupidly put those live at risk "fortunately "only 13 were blown up and dozens maimed
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So the Taliban went from being vicious beheaders to generous and kind holy men, depending on which MAGA talking points need to be supported

I never expected there to be beheadings of Americans; that wouldn't have been in the interest of the Taliban. But what is extraordinary is that you were so easily duped into believing the MAGA talking point about beheaded Americans.
 
Cypress said:
So the Taliban went from being vicious beheaders to generous and kind holy men, depending on which MAGA talking points need to be supported

I never expected there to be beheadings of Americans; that wouldn't have been in the interest of the Taliban. But what is extraordinary is that you were so easily duped into believing the MAGA talking point about beheaded Americans.
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so lets see. we were completely vulnerable
we were surrounded by Haqqani and Taliban
( Biden also refused control of Kabul when offered by Taliban)

It didn't matter what you "expected "or not -we put ourselves in a vulnerable situation
by using Karzai International,instead of Bagram AFB

I notice you dropped the point about "Republican campaign message" when I provided source of our coalition partners criticizing the EVAC
 
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