Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters

[LV426]

and now we get to the main reason why you started this thread....your fear that a 3rd party just might take away enough of the votes and biden will lose, so you must bash 3rd party and independents. I knew I was right about that before.

No, I don't fear a 3P will take away votes, I fear that a 3P POTUS will be a fascist dictator because they have no legislative members from their party to write, introduce, and vote for that agenda.

You keep avoiding that MAJOR PIECE OF OUR CONSTITUTION. It's like you don't even give a shit about Congress, you just want a strongman because of your fascist compulsions.

A 3P POTUS isn't going to break the duopoly...all a 3P POTUS does is strengthen the duopoly because instead of there being 1 opposition party, there are 2.

And you think that through sheer force of personality that a majority of members of both parties will cast aside their own party to support some moron who couldn't be bothered to recruit downballot?

Relying on Democrats and Republicans to do the heavy lifting after you just got done saying how horrible they are is quite the shameless position to have.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lincoln was the Republican nominee...he ran in the Republican primaries, he ran as a Republican in the general election.

That's right.

Republicans, who had only existed for 6 short years, were a third party to the major two-party Whigs and slavers.

I'll give you one out here...one chance for you to admit you were wrong and didn't know what you were talking about, and I promise I will drop the issue forever.

But if you don't take the out, I'm going to continue to force the issue and everyone on JPP is gonna see it.

So here's your big chance to shut your fucking face. I recommend you take it.

You are a clown, a buffoon, a fool. You lie about what others said in order to try and argue against a straw man.

As with most Nazis, fallacy is as close to logic as you ever get.

 

[LV426]

I said nothing of the sort.

You invoked Lincoln and tried to say he ran as a 3P, implying that he had no party support and that after he won election he had no members of his own party in Congress to write and pass laws...except that he did have party support after winning the primaries, and he inherited a Republican House majority.

There were 116 Republicans in the House and 26 in the Senate before he was elected.

Right now, how many 3P reps are there in the House? None? Ah...and what about the Senate? Bernie and Angus King, both of whom caucus with the Democrats.

So you just got your historical facts wrong because you're hysterical.

Now you're going back on what you said before because I made you into a fool.

 

[LV426]

That's right. Republicans, who had only existed for 6 short years, were a third party to the major two-party Whigs and slavers.

NOT BY 1860.

By 1860, the GOP was the majority party. They were the majority party before Lincoln was even elected. There is no 3P that even comes close to that today.

You are the best example of why kids shouldn't be home schooled.

 

[Stone]

and now we get to the main reason why you started this thread....your fear that a 3rd party just might take away enough of the votes and biden will lose, so you must bash 3rd party and independents. I knew I was right about that before.

Exactly. She fears Kennedy. In fact she is scared shitless. He wont win the D party nomination but when he doesnt they have stupidly dogged him so much that he may just choose to run as an Indy at that time.

 

[LV426]

You are a clown, a buffoon, a fool. You lie about what others said in order to try and argue against a straw man.

Nope.

You opened your big fat mouth, and just like in 2020 you fucked yourself because you didn't know what you were talking about.

The GOP was not a "3P" in 1860...it was the majority party in Congress.

The point is that when Lincoln won, he had reps already in Congress to write and introduce his agenda.

No such thing exists for any 3P today, and it seems like you want D's and R's to do your heavy lifting for you.

Fucking lazy.

 

[LV426]

Exactly. She fears Kennedy. In fact she is scared shitless. He wont win the D party nomination but when he doesnt they have stupidly dogged him so much that he may just choose to run as an Indy at that time.

I don't fear the impact these morons have on the election, I fear what would happen if they actually won.

 

[Stone]

I look for the D's to make a push to change the regulations regarding 3rd party candidates ability to run. The aim will be to make it HARDER for them to qualify. Hey,....arent the D's the ones who are totally against making anything harder in the voting process?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

You can tell it's a grift if the party nominating the moron doesn't run enough candidates downballot for that moron to actually enact any of their agenda.

You're calling it a grift from the perspective of the people running the candidate.

In the voter's mind, though, it's just a harmless protest vote

 

[Stone]

 

[Uncensored2008]

NOT BY 1860.

By 1860, the GOP was the majority party. They were the majority party before Lincoln was even elected. There is no 3P that even comes close to that today.

You are the best example of why kids shouldn't be home schooled.

Stupidity is boring - you've bored me.

 

[LV426]

You're calling it a grift from the perspective of the people running the candidate.

In the voter's mind, though, it's just a harmless protest vote

Yeah, and there lies the problem...I don't know how to tell you that you should care about other people. I don't know how else to tell you that your actions have consequences. I don't know how else to tell you to give it more thought...or some thought. Like what are the improbable things that could happen because of this vs. the impossible? I can't stand thoughtlessness masquerading as whatever the fuck this is.

 

[LV426]

Stupidity is boring - you've bored me.

You know less than nothing; you just make shit up as it suits you and then you skitter away when confronted.

Thing is, no one buys that shtick, not even you. So not only are you a fucking idiot but you're also completely disingenuous, insincere, and a fucking fraud.

Whenever there's pressure on you, you wilt and slink away.

Pussy.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You know less than nothing; you just make shit up as it suits you and then you skitter away when confronted.

Thing is, no one buys that shtick, not even you. So not only are you a fucking idiot but you're also completely disingenuous, insincere, and a fucking fraud.

Whenever there's pressure on you, you wilt and slink away.

Pussy.

ROFL

I am the one who cited all my claims.

You are a fool. You amused me at first, but stupidity is boring. You're simply not worth bothering with.

 

[christiefan915]

Democrats have an obviously corrupt 80 year old with dementia running.

For someone claiming to be a doctor, you don't seem to have a handle on dementia.

 

[christiefan915]

Disagreed. I like Nikki and believe she can help bridge the gap between Democrats and Republicans.

I don't have a dog in this fight because I wouldn't vote for a repug president. However, Haley supported trump and embraced his agenda. She supported and campaigned for election deniers. Are you comfortable with that?

"Nikki Haley can’t run from her own record: Less than a month after the violent insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, Haley was back to praising the Trump administration, and she endorsed 2020 election deniers in the midterms. Haley will align herself with anyone — even people who worked to undermine our democracy — to win over the MAGA base.

Weeks after the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol, Haley said she was “really proud” of the Trump administration and urged Republicans to “embrace” Trump’s MAGA agenda.

Leading up to the 2022 midterms, Haley stumped for notorious election deniers like Don Bolduc, Adam Laxalt, and Ted Budd. She even endorsed Senator Mike Lee, who worked to keep Trump in office after he had lost the 2020 election."

https://democrats.org/news/reminder-nikki-haley-cozied-up-with-election-deniers/

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I don't have a dog in this fight because I wouldn't vote for a repug president. However, Haley supported trump and embraced his agenda. She supported and campaigned for election deniers. Are you comfortable with that?

"Nikki Haley can’t run from her own record: Less than a month after the violent insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, Haley was back to praising the Trump administration, and she endorsed 2020 election deniers in the midterms. Haley will align herself with anyone — even people who worked to undermine our democracy — to win over the MAGA base.

Weeks after the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol, Haley said she was “really proud” of the Trump administration and urged Republicans to “embrace” Trump’s MAGA agenda.

Leading up to the 2022 midterms, Haley stumped for notorious election deniers like Don Bolduc, Adam Laxalt, and Ted Budd. She even endorsed Senator Mike Lee, who worked to keep Trump in office after he had lost the 2020 election."

https://democrats.org/news/reminder-nikki-haley-cozied-up-with-election-deniers/

Politics. Still, no worries since the Republicans would never nominate a dark-skinned woman anyway.

 

[Port Tack]

Let's say by some miracle that your Libertarian moron candidate somehow won the Presidential election. Don't worry about how, let's just give you the benefit of the doubt and indulge your crazy fantasy.

How does that Libertarian President advance any of their agenda through a Congress in which their party controls exactly ZERO seats?

Anyone who is voting 3rd Party has not considered that question, or has and is comfortable with their Libertarian moron candidate abusing the same executive authority that they got so mad at Trump and Biden for exploiting.

3rd Party Presidential voters are performative, dipshit moron assholes with no coherent beliefs or ideas, who have not thought through the implications of their poor decisions. 3P voters will never, ever, ever, ever, ever be on the right side of anything because all they do is condemn both sides. That's the only way they can wrap their heads around complex problems...either because they're fucking stupid, or they're just lazy.

Chasing their votes is a waste of time. Anyone who has decided to vote 3P is not someone you'd want in your coalition anyway...because they're fucking stupid and cowardly. I don't want dumb cowards on my side because all I will have to do is coddle them at the expense of my beliefs.

Who are you going to vote for when Trump is found guilty, is removed from being the republican candidate and he says he is still running as third party?

 

[Port Tack]

What if the 3rd party voter considers both main party candidates repulsive.
You think it’s better to not vote?

yes

 

[Port Tack]

Disagreeing with both major parties is one understandable reason for voting for a peripheral candidate that can't win.
I'm beginning to get it.

If you honestly think that either major party's candidate will be equally bad, then a protest vote does no harm from your perspective.
Things are going to be bad regardless of which one wins.

I disagree. When you don't like either candidate you must ask yourself which one would be worse and then vote for the "less bad" one. I have many times voted for the candidate I feel is "not as bad" as the other.

That is unless you are a trump supporter and he isn't running, then you just write his name in on the ballot.