He polls higher than Xi's man Quid Pro.
You Nazis hate him - but Americans remember that life was a FUCKLOAD better back when we had a Constitution and Trump was President.
Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters
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He polls higher than Xi's man Quid Pro.
You Nazis hate him - but Americans remember that life was a FUCKLOAD better back when we had a Constitution and Trump was President.
What is the threat to downballot lawmakers if you're not fielding candidates to run against them?
Is this the part where you threaten violence?
You want to have it both ways...you want to have a 3P candidate but you don't want to do anything meaningful to change the system.
It's going to come down to violence with you, isn't it? The lawmakers don't go along with a 3P POTUS -because why would they?- and since you are incapable of finding viable candidates to run on your unpopular platform against those incumbents, you use a veiled threat of violence (2nd Amendment "solutions") because you can't win at the ballot box - EVER.
You're a clown.
SmarterthanYou
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If a sitting congress critter REFUSES to listen to the majority of his constituency who APPROVE of the 3rd party presidents and demand that their congress critter submit and vote for his agenda, do you think that that sitting congress critter is going to get re-elected or primaried and and NEW republican/democrat gets elected who WILL support said 3rd party president??????
You tried to argue that Lincoln won in 1860 while no Republicans did, forcing Lincoln to form a coalition government as a 3P in 20-24 would do, did you not?
Now that you know the GOP controlled the House and nearly the Senate in 1860, you're trying to muddy the thread so you don't have to admit that your home schooling failed you.
The whole reason you invoked Lincoln was because you STUPIDLY thought he ran as a 3P candidate and would then have no allies in Congress to enact has agenda so he forced compromise. But your homeschooling failed you because the Republicans were already the majority party by Lincoln's run for office so not only was he running for POTUS, but he had 249 other candidates he was sharing the ballot with. Compare that with any 3P candidate today and they're not even in the same ballpark.
Your argument was that a 3P POTUS can simply form a coalition government because that's what Lincoln did, except that there already were 116 Republicans in the House to introduce legislation and 26 Republicans in the Senate to vote for it.
This is what happens when you try to bullshit your way through life; you get ridiculed for being a liar.
Lincoln was the Republican nominee...he ran in the Republican primaries, he ran as a Republican in the general election.
I'll give you one out here...one chance for you to admit you were wrong and didn't know what you were talking about, and I promise I will drop the issue forever.
But if you don't take the out, I'm going to continue to force the issue and everyone on JPP is gonna see it.
So here's your big chance to shut your fucking face. I recommend you take it.
The only poll that matters is the one on election day and he lost that one in 2020 by more than he did in 2016.
And because you both couldn't control your big, fat mouths, you ended up costing the GOP the Senate in 2021.
Trump called Nazis "very fine people" and then bungled Obama's economy, causing manufacturing to plunge into a recession in 2019 with the rest of the economy following in February 2020, before a single COVID lockdown.
Trump never hit 3% growth despite promising that, and his best annual GDP growth rate was lower than Obama's.
You come on JPP to spread your bullshit, and when that doesn't work, you resort to lying.
Pathetic.
You were fucking wrong about Lincoln, and since you were wrong about that, there's no reason to believe you're right about anything else.
WHO IS GOING TO RUN AGAINST THEM?
It's not like any 3P has a deep bench of viable candidates to run on their platform.
Maybe that should be an indication to you that the 3P platform is what is dysfunctional, not the government.
Listen to how stupid you sound.
How would any Republican/Democrat win an election saying that they would support the 3P POTUS over their own party's nominee?
Why don't those ambiguous people just run as a 3P? So you think that 3P candidates are going to sneak into party primaries, get nominated, and then turn their back on the party just because some dipshit wants them to?
Delusional.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
can you not read? or are you back to being willfully ignorant? why don't you re-read my post, specifically the part where I said a 'NEW democrat/republican' would get elected. One that campaigns on supporting the popular agenda of that 3rd party president.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
yes, you are indeed delusional. listen to how stupid YOU sound. again, try reading my post again, and THIS time, use the reality lens that shows any republican or democrat trying to primary a suddenly UNPOPULAR incumbent because they won't support a 3rd party president with an approval rating in the 60s
The problem with this is that Biden already won the popular agenda, so you're imagining a hypothetical 3P agenda is popular.
But it's not because Biden crushed it in 2020.
So your 3P agenda was already posed to the voters and they rejected it.
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, throwing all logic aside, and indulging your fantasy of a 3P POTUS...where you're getting mad is everything that comes AFTER a 3P POTUS win, where the complicated and inconvenient rules of governance apply as directed by our Constitution.
That's why I said you never thought through the consequences of a 3P POTUS. If you had even given it 5 minutes of thought, you'd come to the same quandry that I'm posing to you right now...there is no realistic way for a 3P to advance their agenda through a Congress where they control zero seats. So all they can do is rule by executive authority, which is fascist.
So a consequence of voting 3P is fascism because that's the only way that 3P POTUS can govern.
Don't you respect election results?
Instead of trying to get "new" D's and R's, why don't you just find people who aren't either and have them run as I's?
What makes you think a 3P POTUS can get an approval rating of 60% when you can't even get 5% of the vote?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
if you insist on your delusional belief that YOU are the correct one and biden won the majority so 3rd party would HAVE to be fascist............well, I simply have no desire to debate with someone who doesn't deal with reality. Now, I fully expect you to continue the willfull ignorance, declare your victory and that I secretly desire fascism, whatever.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
and now we get to the main reason why you started this thread....your fear that a 3rd party just might take away enough of the votes and biden will lose, so you must bash 3rd party and independents. I knew I was right about that before.
It's not my belief that Biden won in 2020, it is fact.
What is also a fact is that a 3P POTUS would only be able to govern like a fascist because of no Congressional support. That doesn't seem to be a dealbreaker for you, which kind of feels like a betrayal of your military service.