Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters

I think self defense laws are decided by each state and I think you are too retarded to have a legit conversation on serious issues

LMAO! So you DO support forcing women to take pregnancy tests before they cross state borders.

Why did you say you didn't?
 
So when prompted to say something, ANYTHING about your candidate, you deflect and get defensive.

So you don't really know anything about Haley, do you?
Incorrect, LV. You've already made yourself clear that you don't give a shit about my opinion or about Nikki. Just because I respect her knowledge of foreign affairs and Washington DC isn't going to change your opinion of her or me. All you will do is exactly what you just did; become emotionally heated and sling insults.

The title of this thread proves you don't want discussion; you only want drama and shit slinging. Fine. Your choice.
 
You don't understand how the system works. Voting 3rd party does not affect ballot positioning (varies by state). It gives the 3rd party enough votes so that the nominees of that party qualify for the general election ballot in the next election without having to use the petition/signature method.

Sometimes people vote 3rd party because they favor some of the policy views of that party and hope it might result in other parties adopting some of those policies--pro-abortion, individual liberties, responsible federal spending....

You really should double check the federal election laws because there is no law that says if a candidate gets the required signatures to appear on the ballot for POTUS it also qualifies other candidates from that party downballot.

You should also probably know that most 3P's have already qualified for downballot races, they just choose not to run candidates in downballot races. Why do you think that is?

The Libertarian Party can probably run candidates in all 50 states for all federal offices, we had a Libertarian candidate in GA 2020 that caused a runoff for Senate. But we didn't have any Libertarians running in any of the House district races. Why do you think that is?
 
There isn't much logic to it, I'll admit..

What I tell myself is that the 2-party system isn't working anymore. I don't expect the candidate I vote for to win - but maybe if enough people start voting 3rd party, we'll actually have a viable one someday.

I just can't vote for one of the 2 major parties anymore, barring the emergence of a transcendent, transformational leader who takes up one of the main party's banners. They haven't earned my vote in any way. They're both awful (Republicans are worse, for sure - but both are awful).

Our two party system isn’t a two party system


There are lots of parties


THE PEOPLE ONLY LIKE TWO PARTIES THE MOST

get that


It’s because voters vote that way

Want to change that


CONVINCE PEOPLE WITH IDEAS




ONE party has become a cult that has to cheat to not lose EVERY ELECTION


so what needs to happen is that party that cheats in elections needs to be forced to stop cheating


Once that is done the Republican Party will Fade away and a better party will emerge


One that the people chose because they have compelling ideas



The Republican Party has become a cult of racism and violence


It needs to die



And it will
 
Then why did you open your big, fat, stupid fucking mouth about it, Flash?

You KNOW that I don't trust anything you say. You KNOW that I ask follow up questions. You KNOW these things about me yet you continue to play the victim.

The only thing you are a victim of is your big, fat, stupid fucking mouth that you just don't seem to be able to control.

Typical-turning a political discussion about 3rd party voters into personal insults unrelated to the issue. I never play the victim. I'm not fat.
 
Incorrect, LV. You've already made yourself clear that you don't give a shit about my opinion or about Nikki. Just because I respect her knowledge of foreign affairs and Washington DC isn't going to change your opinion of her or me. All you will do is exactly what you just did; become emotionally heated and sling insults.

The title of this thread proves you don't want discussion; you only want drama and shit slinging. Fine. Your choice.

You have an opinion of her as a person, but not of any of the policies she supports...including Trump.
 
Incorrect, LV. You've already made yourself clear that you don't give a shit about my opinion or about Nikki. Just because I respect her knowledge of foreign affairs and Washington DC isn't going to change your opinion of her or me. All you will do is exactly what you just did; become emotionally heated and sling insults.

The title of this thread proves you don't want discussion; you only want drama and shit slinging. Fine. Your choice.

Niki chose the wrong party


Her ideas are failed ideas
 
You're talking about voting for a 3P for POTUS, Flash...POTUS.

That is the Executive Branch, dipshit.

That is what we've been talking about this entire time; the fact that your 3P POTUS could only govern through fascist executive authority because they have zero allies in Congress or the courts to introduce, pass, and rule on the Constitutionality of the legislation their allies introduced in committee first.

You want to skip all that and just let your 3P rule by authority because your policies, platforms, and ideas are so terrible you can't even find the requisite number of candidates to appear downballot in order to even introduce that 3P legislation.

You are a narcissist because you vote D's and R's all the time...you said so yourself. So it's not about "the duopoly" or "both sides are the same" with you, it's about your fucking narcissism...which is what I've been saying this entire time.




Of course they favor large oppressive government, that's the only way they would be able to govern.

You said yourself that the way a 3P POTUS reaches compromise is to be a bully.

Not that anyone would even want to reach compromise on 3P's terms since the 3P couldn't be bothered to run enough candidates downballot as leverage.

Nope. We were talking about 3rd party voting. Nobody limited that to the president. Third party voters are no more stupid than anyone who votes for Democrats and Republicans which we know are already giving us oppressive government.
 
Typical-turning a political discussion about 3rd party voters into personal insults unrelated to the issue. I never play the victim. I'm not fat.

You're the one who brought this up in the thread, Flash.

So you brought it up to try and knock my judgment, and then when I ask follow up questions, you get defensive.

It's a pattern...it's like you don't want to have to be held accountable for the shit you post here.

You said your "wife faces more discrimination than will ever know."

What discrimination?
 
MORE folks elected Biden for a reason in 2020, and unlike this hypothetical, Biden has allies in Congress to introduce and vote for his legislation.

The legislative process requires all bills to be submitted for a vote, starting in committee. If the 3P POTUS has no allies in Congress, and thus no members in the committees to introduce legislation, then who introduces their legislation and who votes for it?




It's not pretend, it's reality.

The reality is that there are two divided sides, with one that has given up on democracy and considers its opponents illegitimate.

So I'm not sure how a 3P POTUS uses the Force to convince both sides to do what they want.

Especially after you spent an entire campaign denigrating the very same people you now expect to do your heavy lifting for you.

Why the fuck would they? You have no leverage over them because you didn't bother to run enough candidates downballot to make threats like this.

So your entire strategy is to bully D's and R's into doing your legislative work for you after you just got done denigrating them and calling them "the duopoly" or whatever.

Again. If you think that Brandon is the Great Hero because he compromised with Congress it means that Folks in Congress worked with someone that was not in their party, just as they would with someone from a third party.

Electing someone from a third party will not freeze up the government, only imbeciles think that it would.

As for calling them the "duopoly" or whatever, the republicans worked with the team sent by Fearless Leader even though they constantly are calling them "MAGA Republicans" etc. Once I saw an ad with someone pushing an old lady's wheelchair off a cliff saying republicans wanted to kill grandma... yet they still work out compromises. It's what we do.

Running around like Kermit the Frog screaming and flapping your arms in panic notwithstanding, if someone from a third party was elected government would continue exactly as it is working currently.
 
Again. If you think that Brandon is the Great Hero because he compromised with Congress it means that Folks in Congress worked with someone that was not in their party, just as they would with someone from a third party.

Electing someone from a third party will not freeze up the government, only imbeciles think that it would.

As for calling them the "duopoly" or whatever, the republicans worked with the team sent by Fearless Leader even though they constantly are calling them "MAGA Republicans" etc. Once I saw an ad with someone pushing an old lady's wheelchair off a cliff saying republicans wanted to kill grandma... yet they still work out compromises. It's what we do.

Running around like Kermit the Frog screaming and flapping your arms in panic notwithstanding, if someone from a third party was elected government would continue exactly as it is working currently.




The get your turds to pass a budget bill
 
Nope. We were talking about 3rd party voting.

Voting...for what?

What is the OP Flash?

The OP is that any vote for a 3P for POTUS is a vote for fascism because that 3P POTUS has no allies in Congress to introduce that agenda, and no allies in the courts to rule favorably on it. So the only way by which they can govern is through fascist executive authority.



Nobody limited that to the president.

What is the question of the OP that you responded to, Flash????

The question was how does a 3P POTUS advance their agenda through a Congress where they have no allies, and through the courts where they ALSO have no allies?

So how do they do that? And you can't say "force compromise" because the 3P has no leverage to make threats to legislators since they don't really run candidates downballot because they're grifts.


Third party voters are no more stupid than anyone who votes for Democrats and Republicans which we know are already giving us oppressive government.

No.

3P voters are stupider because they don't consider all possible outcomes of their actions.

Say what you will about Conservatives, but they think through all possible outcomes, they just don't let those negative outcomes bother them.
 
Nope. We were talking about 3rd party voting. Nobody limited that to the president. Third party voters are no more stupid than anyone who votes for Democrats and Republicans which we know are already giving us oppressive government.

Oppressive government?




Dear fucking idiot



We are a democracy

The majority rules



You don’t just get your way


You are a tiny fraction of this democracy



Want to win an election


GET BETTER IDEAS



Fuck you very much
 
Third party voters are no more stupid than anyone who votes for Democrats and Republicans which we know are already giving us oppressive government.

Oppressive government? How have you been oppressed, Flash? Are you feeling oppressed by me pointing out how terrible your fucking judgment is? That's not partisan, that's personal.
 
Again. If you think that Brandon is the Great Hero because he compromised with Congress it means that Folks in Congress worked with someone that was not in their party, just as they would with someone from a third party.

Electing someone from a third party will not freeze up the government, only imbeciles think that it would.

As for calling them the "duopoly" or whatever, the republicans worked with the team sent by Fearless Leader even though they constantly are calling them "MAGA Republicans" etc. Once I saw an ad with someone pushing an old lady's wheelchair off a cliff saying republicans wanted to kill grandma... yet they still work out compromises. It's what we do.

Running around like Kermit the Frog screaming and flapping your arms in panic notwithstanding, if someone from a third party was elected government would continue exactly as it is working currently.

Say whatever the hell you want about Biden, but he has allies in Congress to introduce his agenda.

No 3P POTUS will have that, and they will also have no leverage over the D's and R's in Congress because the 3P doesn't run challengers in those legislative races.

So the ONLY WAY a 3P POTUS could govern is by fascist executive authority.

You're not going to get D's and R's to do your heavy lifting for you after you just got done calling them names.
 
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