Dutch Uncle
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QED on the shit slinging, dear.
Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters
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QED on the shit slinging, dear.
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Ideas that have produced a party that can’t win elections without cheating
OK so she supports Nazis, she supports bombing abortion clinics, she supports mass shootings, tax cuts for the rich (deficit spending), and wars of aggression.
Those are all key pieces of the GOP platform.
Name one policy from her platform that is of Nikki Haley's own design.
As folks from a third party would. When Bernie gets elected as an Independent, he allies with folks closer to his side of things.
The reality is, your DooOOOoooooommmm screaming notwithstanding, there is nothing in electing a third party candidate that would make it so that congress would never even entertain a compromise. That's just absurdly limited in thought, it is simple fantasy created by a simple man.
What folks? There are none! The Libertarians can't even be bothered to run candidates in enough legislative races to even make the difference on a simple up/down vote! Why? Because they're a grift. Duh.
Who does Bernie caucus with in the Senate?
What party did Bernie run for President in?
Bernie also has a legacy of decades of legislation, and a long list of friends and allies in Congress that he leaned on to pass bipartisan legislation to help veterans.
Libertarians have none of that, have no track record of anything close to that, and thus have not earned the trust of most voters.
Except for that pesky thing called leverage.
What incentive do D's and R's have to go along with an agenda neither supports, since the folks pushing that agenda aren't pressuring them electorally in downballot races? <---NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION
Dutch Uncle
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Her history begins with a college degree and the chamber of commerce. She's business oriented, and that's always been a province of Republicans...until Trump who can only run businesses into ground.
Maybe Haley can change that.
Dutch Uncle
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The fact you don't want to understand why people vote Third Party, despite several JPP members including myself telling you, is proof you just want to sling shit, LV.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Age-related issues for elected officials including testing.
That said, yours is a bullshit question since any party member pushes party ideas. Name a single policy of Biden's that was his own design. Gun? BTDT. Abortion? BTDT. Fucking up the Afghanistan exit, yep. That was all Biden. LOL
1. Aren't you one of those who says that a college degree isn't that big a deal and that people should just go to "trade school"?
2. What history w/ the Chamber of Commerce qualifies her to be President?
She has literally NO EXPERIENCE running a business, and we don't want business people running the country anyway because we tried it twice this century and both times it was a disaster.
In fact, the only Presidents to have MBA's are Hoover, Bush the Dumber, and Trump...quite the business oriented people, eh???
Can we dispel the myth that business people are good at governing? They're not even good at business.
Trump: MBA
Bush the Dumber: MBA
Hoover: MBA
Haley: MBA
Can you identify patterns?
As an equal branch of the government they have leverage, every excuse you come up with is just stupid. If someone from a third party got enough votes to beat the 2 major parties they'd have a constituency, one that crossed over and voted for congresspeople, etc. from one of the two major parties... That would give them "leverage", if simply being a branch of government wasn't enough "leverage"...
This whole thread is stupid, it was based on the question of "if one got elected, how would they be able to govern", that it was so simply answered frustrates you to no end.
You get so excited and angry. If we were in the room you'd be one of those folks who got louder because they think whoever shouts loudest made the best point... and you'd still be wrong.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
QED on the shit-slinging, dear. Your lies and rhetoric match the Trumpers in terms of bullshit. The only difference is your polarity, who you want to kill and blowup.
This is why you obviously don't understand how elections work. Elections are largely determined by state governments which give varying amounts of that power to the political parties in that state. You need to understand the different function of federal and state governments.
States determine how a candidate/party qualifies for the ballot in the general election. It is not in federal law. Nominations (direct and presidential primaries) are largely governed by the parties and unrelated to the general election ballot.
You are pretending you know more about elections than you actually do. There are 50 states and 2 major parties so there are 100 variations in how candidates are nominated, qualify for the ballot, etc.
Rather than referring to federal law or denying the percentage of votes for 3rd party candidates affects their qualifications to appear on the next general election ballot, try looking at your own state to see that Georgia uses similar methods:
[FONT="]Once a political organization is registered, it may nominate candidates for placement on the general election ballot. The political organization can nominate candidates by convention if one of the following criteria is met:[3][/FONT]
- if, at the preceding general election, the political organization's candidate for statewide office received a number of votes equal to 1 percent of the registered voters who were eligible to vote in that election
- if the political organization files a petition signed by a number of registered voters equal to 1 percent of the registered voters who were eligible to vote in the last general election; this petition must be filed by noon on the second Tuesday in July
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https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_requirements_for_political_parties_in_Georgia
You have said loud and clear that your choice to vote 3P is an impulsive, narcissistic decision you are making in order to be relevant in a world that doesn't really consider you relevant anymore.
That was not her original idea.
I asked for something she came up with on her own that she would enact into law.
As it stands now, her platform is the same as Trump's.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
1. Another half-truth...which is a whole-lie, dear. How am I supposed to respect you when you sling bullshit like Lyingfish, Truth Detector, Uncensored and the other fucking morons?
2. You cherry-pick facts like the Trumpers cherry-pick about COVID and global-warming. Sad.
Medicare For All isn't a party idea, yet Bernie Sanders, AOC, and other D's push for it.
The BIF, CHIPS Act, so many more.....
You keep saying you want someone who will force both sides to compromise, and Biden has done just that...but you're not supporting him because you want the attention being a narcissistic 3P voter brings you.
Donald Trump agreed to a deal with the Taliban (without the Afghan Government) in February 2020 that the US would withdraw all its troops by April 1st, 2021.
Then Donald Trump preceded to only withdraw 50,000 troops by the time he left office January 21, 2021. Between Feb 2020 and Jan 2021, exactly ZERO tons of equipment was withdrawn, and exactly ZERO Afghans were rescued.
Biden managed to extend that deadline to 8/1 by negotiating with the Taliban and was able to get all our troops out PLUS 100,000+ Afghan allies who helped us while we were there. TRUMP EVACUATED NONE OF THEM AND WANTED TO LEAVE THEM TO THE TALIBAN WHO HE ALSO INVITED TO CAMP DAVID ON 9/11.
Biden didn't fuck anything up...in fact, he did an outstanding job since Trump left him a catastrophe.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
My government tried to overturn the last election, suspend the Constitution, created illegitimate electors, attack the Capitol, tried to get states to change election results.....
That was done under the current two-party system.
Would you say Italy, France, Germany, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, and the Netherlands are "fascist" governments? They are multi-party representative democracies.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
The more you sling shit, insult and lie about me, the more reason I won't support the Democratic Party and
