Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters

when you resign yourself to accepting that the 2 party system is what you have and voting for a 3rd party is stupid, that really shows your own weakness, not anyone elses.
 
This is precisely what I'm talking about when I say that you're fucking stupid and need to grow up.

You literally answered my question with a question of your own. So you broke your own stupid rule. Did you realize you even did that? Or do you just not care about being a hypocrite?

"An question is not an answer"...then why did you answer my question as to how your 3P POTUS' agenda gets advanced in a Congress where their party controls ZERO seats with a question of your own?

I'm convinced you are so old that you have early onset dementia...that is the only explanation for why you act the way you do.'

Grow up.

BTW, I forgot to say "Welcome back, dear!" :thup:

Please work on controlling your emotions, old girl. I'd hate to see you gone 6 months.

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I don't claim to know what I'm talking about.

No shit.


I ask questions. You don't answer.

Problem is that I asked the first question in my OP and you didn't answer it. You chose to not answer the question when you could have chosen to not respond in the thread. But you made the choice to respond to a question with a question of your own.

How come you didn't answer the question? Because you can't.

You don't know how a 3P POTUS advances their agenda through a Congress where their party controls zero seats because, in your own words, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
 
I almost never misspell words and my sentences are complete as well as grammatically correct.

No they're not. You're only pretending they are now to make a point. And it's not just the mispellings and incorrect grammar, it's the illogical nonsense behind it. Like saying I don't answer questions when you didn't answer the question in the OP on a thread you didn't have to jump into.

But because you lack self-control, you make unforced errors like saying how I don't answer questions literally one post after you didn't.

So I'll pose to you the question in the OP that you didn't answer again: How does your dumb, grifting 3P candidate advance any of their agenda through a Congress where their party controls zero seats?
 
Appears to me LV is on a serious days long drinking binge and out of nowhere he lashes out at the world for perceived injustices done to him.

You got defensive because I pointed out how your 3P vote was stupid and an endorsement of fascism, and you couldn't articulately defend your poor choice.

So you avoided the question in the OP because you don't have a good answer.

Voting for a 3P candidate for POTUS is an explicit endorsement of fascism because the only way a 3P POTUS can enact any of their agenda is to do so by executive authority, which is inherently fascist.

So you're a fascist because you want a strongman to circumvent Congress to act as a dictator, because you can't advance any of your stupid ideas through Congress.
 
You got defensive because I pointed out how your 3P vote was stupid and an endorsement of fascism, and you couldn't articulately defend it, so you avoided the question in the OP because you don't have a good answer.

Voting for a 3P candidate for POTUS is an explicit endorsement of fascism because the only way a 3P POTUS can enact their agenda is to do so by executive authority, which is inherently fascist.

So you're a fascist because you want a strongman to circumvent Congress to act as a dictator because you can't advance any of your stupid ideas through Congress.

worst logic ever.
 
Disagreed, LV. OTOH, tell me why I should vote for a party, be it Democrat or Republican, that pushes ideas with which I disagree.

I love it when dudes have totally incoherent beliefs because they insist they don't, but the moment you try to get them to elaborate they get all defensive and pissy like this.

You don't think through the implications of anything because you're lazy.

It's all vague.


I have my opinions, LV: better education for all Americans. More tolerance for new ideas and lifestyles. More respect for science. <--use the Reaganism "Trust but verify". There are many more. I do support the status quo over policies that are wrong such as gun bans over better mental healthcare. Do the mental health care first and see if We, the People, still have a gun problem. Take it from there.

None of this is articulate or a policy explanation. How does a 3P POTUS get "more tolerance for new ideas and lifestyles"? And what lifestyles are you talking about that we should have tolerance for?

"More respect for science"? Reagan didn't respect science at all, what the fuck???? Reagan denied there was an AIDS crisis FFS.

You didn't articulate anything that is achievable here. Just diarrhea of the keyboard.

And yes, I know you support the status quo, but it's not because of policies from the left or right, it's because you're not wise enough to think of any policies of your own.
 
I love it when dudes have totally incoherent beliefs because they insist they don't, but the moment you try to get them to elaborate they get all defensive and pissy like this.
You don't think through the implications of anything because you're lazy.
It's all vague....

....None of this is articulate. How does a 3P POTUS get "more tolerance for new ideas and lifestyles"? And what lifestyles are you talking about that we should have tolerance for?

"More respect for science"? Reagan didn't respect science at all, what the fuck???? Reagan denied there was an AIDS crisis FFS.
You didn't articulate anything that is achievable here. Just diarrhea of the keyboard.

And yes, I know you support the status quo, but it's not because of policies from the left or right, it's because you're lazy and complacent.
What's "defensive" or "pissy" about my comment, dear?

Disagreed. There's no way a Libertarian candidate will win the Presidency in 2024, dear, so keep your panties dry. Anything different from one's own lifestyle: Gays, trannies, foreign immigrants, etc.

Reagan pushed "Peace through Strength" and "Star Wars". All very scientific, LV.

There's that notorious emotion that got you banned last time, dear. Please be careful to not let your emotions get away from you. :)
 
Third Option = Third Party. Election math* which erodes the ability of a Senator or Representative to claim they have a vast majority of support in their state or district.

How does a 3P POTUS advance any of their agenda through a Congress where their party controls ZERO seats?

They don't.

So all they can do is act like a dictator, and you're perfectly OK with that.

So your Third Way is no better than the other two ways you condemn, and might actually be worse because it's an explicit endorsement of fascism since these 3P's never seem to nominate enough people downballot in order to get any of their agenda through Congress. So the only way they can get any of it is to act with executive authority and hope the courts will back it up, but the courts will never back it up because they are largely appointed by folks from one of the two major parties.

That's how you know 3P POTUS runs are a grift.


FWIW, a Congress divided by partisan lines is dysfunctional. Our is dysfunction. They've weaponized impeaching the President in an election year simply to let a pedophile win the nomination.

So in your mind, does a 3P POTUS use a Jedi mind trick or some kind of hypnosis to get Congress to stop being so dysfunctional?

What does any of this have to do with the outcome of a 3P POTUS election with zero members of their party in Congress to introduce this legislation in committees?

Like, have you thought that far ahead? Or are you just running on impulse, like I suspect?
 
Disagreeing with both major parties is one understandable reason for voting for a peripheral candidate that can't win.
I'm beginning to get it.

If you honestly think that either major party's candidate will be equally bad, then a protest vote does no harm from your perspective.
Things are going to be bad regardless of which one wins.

My situation is completely dissimilar because my core values are completely dissimilar, Oom.

I know that the Democratic candidate for whom I'm voting is a mediocre choice at the very best,
but I also feel
that both the Republican candidate
as well as any fringe candidate
would make a substantially worse president than the Democratic nominee.

As much as I'll gag voting for Biden,
I'd probably vomit voting for anybody else on the ballot.

I don't see the new FDR running as a 3rd, 4th, or 5th party candidate, do you?

I'm not a Libertarian like you. Nothing even close.
I don't even understand your values, much less share them.
You understand that, right?

Even if you can't help yourself from making some subjective crack about my values,
you do understand that they barely overlap yours if at all.

I am a socially conservative fiscal socialist
and while Biden doesn't fit that description very well,
everybody else on the ballot will be even further from it.

I really can't explain it any clearer than that.

Look, it comes down to this:

If you are comfortable with a POTUS that acts like a fascist dictator, then vote 3P. But just know that so long as that 3P isn't running enough candidates in enough races to make the difference in Congressional votes, then it's a grift meant to enrich the POTUS candidate and raise their personal profile that they can leverage into a media job.
 
Thanks. It's not the man (except in Trump's case) but the party in power that is the problem. Another strategy is to always vote for the challenger regardless of party. Keep switching them out. The problem is most people won't do that.

How do you change the party in power when you aren't running enough candidates in Congress to actually achieve that?

Voting for 3P POTUS doesn't magically make 3P candidates appear downballot, you know...


I'm socially liberal, fiscally conservative. Neither major party fits those parameters.

So you recognize there are systems of oppression and abuse in our society but you don't want to do anything about them.
 
when you resign yourself to accepting that the 2 party system is what you have and voting for a 3rd party is stupid, that really shows your own weakness, not anyone elses.

How does a 3P POTUS advance any of their agenda through a Congress where their party controls exactly 0 seats?
 
It's politics. She has to win the nomination before she can actually have a chance of being President.

Let's be honest; who would you rather have as a Republican President: Nikki or Donnie?

Since neither of the above is a cop out, the obvious answer is Nikki. That said, I won't have to make that choice. Both have disqualified themselves by failing the leadership test. The difference is one would win, the other has basically no chance in the general. Asking your candidate to reject voting for a convicted felon that tried to overthrow the country is the lowest bar I can think of, and she couldn't clear it.
 
worst logic ever.

Yes voting for 3P is the worst logic ever because ultimately, that 3P POTUS will have to use executive authority since they have no party members in Congress to introduce and vote for their legislation.

You say you know the Constitution inside and out but you didn't know that????
 
That one is especially stupid.

OK, so then explain to all of us how a 3P POTUS gets any of their agenda enacted despite having zero members in Congress to, you know, introduce and vote for their legislation???

That's the question in the OP that not a single one of you have been able to answer.
 
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