Yakuda
Verified User
What was it like getting your ass kicked off a site, for three months, where you can say just about anything? You must have said something really moronic.
Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters
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What was it like getting your ass kicked off a site, for three months, where you can say just about anything? You must have said something really moronic.
You want a dictator because you don't want to do the work to get enough 3P elected downballot in order to introduce, vote, and pass any of the 3P agenda (which is still vague and inarticulate).
You tried to patronize instead of answering the question in the OP that you can't answer because you haven't given it enough thought. If you had, then you'd be able to answer how a 3P POTUS enacts any of their agenda through a Congress where their party controls 0 seats and therefore can't introduce, vote for, and pass that agenda.
The only way they can is by abusing executive authority, which you oppose. Unless you're going to confess that you only oppose it when your person isn't sitting in the Oval Office.
So how does your Libertarian POTUS pass their Libertarian policies (still inarticulate) through a Congress that has 0 Libertarians?
Then why are you still going to vote for one? Listen to yourself!
"I'm going to vote for the person I know has no chance of winning and even if they did, has no way to advance any of their agenda without being fascist"
Is that truly how you want to be perceived and remembered?
Vague. So you think we should tolerate white supremacists and Nazis? Why?
This is one of the most embarrassing things you've ever written.
1. Reagan had NOTHING to do with ending the Cold War...that was the famine and perestroika.
2. The SDI never happened! Are you so fucking delusional and riddled with dementia that you actually think the SDI was constructed and is operational? Seriously???
3. So when it comes to science, all you can articulate was a failed plan that never saw the light of day??? How is that "respect for science"?
here's that notorious emotion that got you banned last time, dear. Please be careful to not let your emotions get away from you.
You retreat to patronizing whenever your argument is torn apart and you're made to feel less than.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
The 3P POTUS candidate obviously doesn't have down-ballot support and won't until there's actually a viable 3rd party.
Then that 3rd party has to be ideologically situated somewhere, either further right than the Republicans, further left than the Democrats,
or, in the most pathetically useless case, right in between them.
People are making a protest vote, not expecting that candidate to win anything,
because they perceive no downside to doing so. They believe that whichever major party candidate actually wins,
and they know one of them will,
one will be just as bad as the other would have been.
Three viable parties, by the way, will essentially mean the end of presidential elections.
Meaningless ones could be held, but the House of Representatives would actually choose all further presidents.
A 3P candidate makes sense for Oom because a Libertarian with whom he somewhat agrees will likely be on the ballot.
A 3P candidate makes no sense for me because no candidate will match my requirements, and the closest one would be
the actual Democratic nominee.
I am a social conservative [by modern Democratic standards, obviously]
and a fiscal socialist. I am an old school FDR Democrat.
Biden isn't close to what I'd like,
but unfortunately, he'll be the closest thing, despite not being very close.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
The only person suggesting that is you, dear.
Correct, sweetcheeks.
Yes and no. The problems are there, it's your solutions I don't like. LV, if you want to force me to vote for a major party, I'll vote for the party not in power. Is that what you and your fellow LW bullies want?
Haley knows she has no chance of winning anything...she's running simply to get a Fox News job.
See, you can't answer the question because doing so exposes your inherent addiction and compulsion to fascism.
How does a 3P POTUS advance any of their agenda through a Congress where their party controls exactly 0 seats without being a fascist dictator?
They do it by creating compromise, the same way an idiot like Biden can get some (not many because compromise is mostly foreign to the idiots running the Weekend At Bernie's hot dookie eating contest and "Magical White Powder Mystery Tour" we see at the White House) things passed even though his party doesn't control the House.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
he gets the voting PUBLIC to want it..........any republican or democrat house member who then wants to KEEP their seat, will vote for it.
Right, and we don't get a viable 3P until that 3P starts winning elections...so instead of trying to win the hardest election (POTUS), why not try for easier ones?
The answer is very simple...they don't try for easier ones because all 3P's right now are grifts centered around a cult of personality.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
SmarterthanYou
rebel
nice try, but no. YOUR logic was the worst ever.....equating executive orders to fascism ONLY because it would be a 3rd party, or even a Republican (in your biased mindset) proves that you are nothing more than a lockstep totalitarian/fascist by NOT protesting about ANY of the executive orders by biden or obama
Yakuda
Verified User
I just want to know what it was like to be kicked off a site, for 3 months, that has almost no rules. Whatever you did or said had to be utterly fucked up. It would like getting kicked out of the kkk for being too hateful. LMFAO.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Your emotional appeal has convinced me, dear. I'm now strongly considering voting for the challenger. W00t!
You're the one who literally said that your 3P candidate has no chance of winning.
So by voting for them, you're endorsing fascism since that's all they'll be able to do if they win.
Voting for 3P doesn't magically make downballot candidates appear; and if your goal is to get more Libertarian representation in government because it's "so dysfunctional" thanks to the two major parties, then why are you trying to win the hardest race? Why don't you try winning easier races in order to increase your representation? Because it's not about that for you...it's about maintaining the status quo of dysfunction in order to complain about it.
So it's posturing. Very immature.
Why don't you like them? Because you think they're fascist? Well that's funny because your vote for 3P is a vote explicitly for fascism since that's the only way a 3P POTUS could govern in our current political environment.
So you are the one endorsing bullying because the only way your 3P POTUS candidate could govern is by executive fiat.
Biden has political capital and relationships with almost all of those legislators, not to mention a party apparatus behind him that provides him with the votes in Congress.
A 3P POTUS does not have any of that.
So what leverage does a 3P POTUS have in order to force compromise if their party controls zero seats in Congress or the courts?
You seem to think cult of personality wills people into compromise, but that is woefully naive. And none of those 3P POTUS candidates have a great enough cult of personality to pull it off anyway.
But how does that translate to a vote in Congress?
If the 3P has no members in Congress, how will the 3P even introduce legislation in committees?
You need Congressional allies of your party to do that...otherwise you can only rule by executive authorly which I'm not convinced you're entirely opposed to.
LMAO!
With gerrymandering, that's never a threat.
Vote Misery
Vote Slavery
Vote Death
Vote DEMOCRAT
The same people who murdered 200 million captive civilians in the 20th century want to rule your life, AND decide how long that life will be.
A brutal, Marxist totalitarian dictatorship is "close to democracy?"
You've had enough crack for one day...
I'm just saying.