Question for dipshit 3rd Party voters

[Uncensored2008]

So if you're looking for a candidate that builds coalitions through compromise, Biden is your guy because that's what he's done since he took office.

ROFL

The lies you fascists tell...

Quid Pro is FOR SALE - he does NOTHING without a bribe.

You know who has never compromised? Libertarians. Why? Because they don't have any representation in Congress. Because they're not a serious political party.

The LPUSA is a mess. The party let the Bolsheviks gain control through the Chomsky faction. Abandoning the principles of Rothbard and Browne, embracing socialism instead. It was compromising with the Socialists that got the party into the position they are in today. The LPUSA is not viable. They have the same basic goals as the fascist DNC does.

 

[LV426]

depending on ballot access Cornell West looks like he will get abut 3%. that would be a spolier for Biden

In 2020 you lied about getting an unsolicited mail in ballot because you were trying to interfere in the 2020 election.

 

[LV426]

Insecurity is an emotional response, dear. Why do you think you're less emotional than me?

There isn't a person out there who wouldn't call you emotional, that's for sure. In fact, your centrism is an emotional reaction...your only one.

 

[LV426]

Thinking does not appear to be your forte'.

You're the one who doesn't think through the consequences of your actions...that's what this thread has all been about.

You also lie all the time, about everything.

And it's not like you're even accurate when you do lie...like the whole thing about parliamentary democracies relying on coalitions but forgetting that the central piece of any executive's coalition government is his own party.

But you're just a really stupid person, so I am willking to let that slide.

Donald Trump had built the most robust economy in 150 years.

Donald Trump's best annual GDP growth rate was 2.85%.

Obama's was 2.89%.

The economy entered a recession in February 2020, before any of the lockdowns:

Recession officially started in February, researchers say
June 8, 2020
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-recession-started-in-february-researchers-say

Trump's Russia Tax Cut also plunged manufacturing into a recession for all of 2019, costing 300,000 jobs:

U.S. manufacturing was in a mild recession during 2019, a sore spot for the economy
January 17, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...mild-recession-during-2019-sore-spot-economy/

And the Russia Tax Cut didn't increase business investment, as promised:

A Decline in Capital Investment Reveals the False Promise of Trump’s Tax Bill
July 30, 2019
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...-reveals-the-false-promise-of-trumps-tax-bill

Best economy in 150 years? Nope. Not even close.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

VOTE DEMOCRAT.

I won't vote for any candidate with an (R) after their name until they purge Congress of the crazies and racists:
Marjorie Traitor Greene
Lauren Boobert
Louie Gohmert
Paul Gosar
Matt Gaetz
Ted Cruz
Marsha Blackburn
Josh Hawley

and all the Congressmembers who voted against Trump's 2nd impeachment for the J6 Insurrection.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm not convinced you know what this word means.

What reason do the D's and R's have to compromise for the sake of an agenda they campaigned against, with a 3P POTUS whose party has 0 seats in either chamber?

They want to be reelected.

Seriously, you don't grasp this?

Why did so many Republicans rally around Trump? He is the antithesis of the Kleptocracy those like Graham promote, but the Republicans wanted to get reelected and Trump IS extremely popular among decent Americans.

It's how politics work in free societies. You just can't see beyond your blind subservience to your Reich.

Be realistic. What tactic would a 3P POTUS use to force compromise? Is there even one available if you're completely neutered in the Legislative and Judicial branches? And don't say "the bully pulpit" because that didn't work for Bernie and if it didn't work for Bernie, it's not gonna work for a 3P candidate most people either think is stupid or don't know.




The problem is that you don't know what compromise looks like or even how you get there. You talk vaguely about building coalitions, but you need to start from somewhere in order to do that. You don't go from no coalition to coalition overnight. It takes patience and effort, two things I don't think you have.

And I am not the one who threatens violence on JPP. Your Nazi pals do.

Trump managed to get the GOP to back him, despite their hatred of him - based on his popularity with the people.

You hold party above the people - well, above EVERYTHING - so you don't grasp it. Trump effectively WAS a third party president.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

they should try to win downballot races so that IF/WHEN a 3P POTUS is elected, they actually have allies in Congress that can advance their agenda.

I have no objection to the formation of actually viable alternative parties
which can compete in races from local school committee to POTUS.
I in fact would encourage it.

It would end presidential elections as we know them--
nobody will win the required number of electoral votes--
but frankly, those are usually shit shows anyway.

My point is that if the CURRENT alternate party voters
really don't believe that either the Republican or Democratic Party candidate
is any better or worse that the other,

then they have nothing to lose for making a protest vote
for a candidate that we realistically KNOW
is not going to win.

The hard part for me
is how anybody can feel
that the two candidates among whom the actual winner will definitely emerge
are perfectly equal in their potential as POTUS.

No matter one's point of view,
doesn't one of them HAVE to be less objectionable than the other?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

There isn't a person out there who wouldn't call you emotional, that's for sure.

In fact, your centrism is an emotional reaction...your only one.

I'm amazed by your mind-reading powers, LV. Kudos for working on your telepathy skills during your vacay!

Thanks for recognizing I'm a centrist.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The irony is that you're the one defending a vote for a 3P candidate who would only be able to govern by fascist executive authority because they have no members of their own party in Congress to write, introduce, and pass that agenda.

That makes you the fascist.

Tough titties.

Yes, you fear that a third party run with derail Bought and Paid For.

I'll give you a clue - Quid Pro can't win even without a third party spoiler. Your Reich depends on election tampering - putting the opposition candidate in prison and again rigging the vote. You know full well you can't win in a free and fair election.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

In 2020 you lied about getting an unsolicited mail in ballot because you were trying to interfere in the 2020 election.

Hopefully he voted twice just like Trump ordered and the Feds will eventually track him down.

 

[anonymoose]

I don't claim to know what I'm talking about.

No shit.

Yet you do.

How come you didn't answer the question? Because you can't.

Sure I can.

 

[LV426]

Abraham Lincoln was a third party Candidate - neither Whig nor slaver (filthy democrat). Tell me how he had no support?

YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

Lincoln ran as a Republican and in 1860, Republicans won 160 seats in the House and 29 seats in the Senate.

This is stuff that is so very easily researched which begs the question WHY ARE YOU BULLSHITTING ABOUT THIS?

Lincoln didn't run without party support, or without Congressional allies.

You have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're saying.

What an embarrassing display of ignorance.

Just incredible the level of stupidity and carelessness.

This is why you find it so hard to find support outside of JPP and why you only seek validation here.

I bet you were home schooled.

 

[anonymoose]

How does your dumb, grifting 3P candidate advance any of their agenda through a Congress where their party controls zero seats?

Compromise.
Fact is libertarians are more socially aligned w/ dims and more fiscally aligned w/ pubs.

 

[LV426]

Abraham Lincoln was a third party Candidate - neither Whig nor slaver (filthy democrat). Tell me how he had no support?

I just wanted to quote this again because it is the stupidest thing I've read all year and that includes Flash's posts.

The Republican Party, which Lincoln ran in, was founded in 1854, six years before the 1860 election and by the time Lincoln won the Presidency, the GOP already controlled 116 seats in the House and 26 in the Senate.

I really, really can't understand how you could get something so fucking wrong like this. I mean this is shit you learn as a kid in elementary school. Yeah, you were definitely homeschooled.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump lost not because Biden cheated, or because the Democrats rigged it, or because of China, but because him and his cult members couldn't control their big, fat, fucking mouths.

If you had simply kept your mouth shut, Trump probably would still be POTUS. But you couldn't. Every single time you opened your big, fat, fucking mouth, you convinced 2 people to vote against Trump. That's why Biden's margin was double Clinton's; your big, fat, fucking mouth.

I don't know if Donald Trump won in 2020 - nor do you, nor does your Fuhrer.

I know that Trump got 74 million votes.

Neither I, nor anyone else knows how many legitimate votes Quid Pro got.

The Integrity Project has documented 21 million illegitimate registered voters in the nation. With mail in voting that failed to even check signatures, we can extrapolate that these 21 million dead and redundant (moved to a different state or district) registrations all were cast for Biden.

Of the 82 million attributed to Biden, that would make 61 million legitimate votes. This is highly likely - but unprovable - which is WHY the Nazi party uses this to rig elections. Though we see it clearly - it cannot be proven. It can be stopped by cleaning registration rolls - which is WHY you Nazis have spent over a BILLION dollars to STOP registration rolls from being cleaned.

The Nazi democrat party cannot win free and fair elections - so you make sure they are NEVER free and fair.

 

[LV426]

LOL

Likud is a MINORITY party that had to build alliances with other parties. You sunk your own argument and didn't even grasp it.

You just got caught in a lie.

You lied and tried to say that all over the world, chief executives are forming coalition governments without any members of their own party. That was a lie. So you shifted the goalposts and said Likud is a minority party, but WHY is it a minority party? Because it only controls a minority of seats...BUT IT STILL CONTROLS SEATS.

The Likud Party is the base of the Netanyahu coalition government. It is not absent from the legislature and Netanyahu is governing without them.

You're the one who posts stupider and stupider things the longer you stay on a thread.

After screwing up the 1860 election, I'm surprised you're still on this thread. I guess you don't have shame.

 

[LV426]

Democracy appears to be very important to you, psychologically, LV.

In the real world, people who are living comfortably and with contentment

don't actually care what political system or economic system brought them to that point.

They're prepared to defend whatever keeps them in 15 year old Scotch,

and who would blame them? Certainly not me.

Those who want and / or need more
are the ones who attach their desired outcomes
to political and economic ideologies
and actually try to be consistent with them.

I don't know how to tell you that you should care about people other than yourself. Selfishness and myopia helps fascism. if you are only capable of thinking purely for yourself, then maybe democracy isn't the system for you and you should finally admit it.

 

[LV426]

ROFL

The lies you fascists tell...

The reason you want people to vote for your 3P candidate is because you want that candidate to act like a dictator and circumvent the Constitution in order to advance an unpopular agenda.

 

[LV426]

Quid Pro is FOR SALE - he does NOTHING without a bribe.

Prove it.

The LPUSA is a mess. The party let the Bolsheviks gain control through the Chomsky faction. Abandoning the principles of Rothbard and Browne, embracing socialism instead. It was compromising with the Socialists that got the party into the position they are in today. The LPUSA is not viable. They have the same basic goals as the fascist DNC does.

All I see here are excuses.

You're a baby.

 

[anonymoose]

She's smart, but overly emotional. Possibly autistic or bipolar.

I forgot she was female. She could be menopausal.