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Really, so both parties are drunk, sex happens without any coercion yet you say that the man is the only one culpable and responsible for their actions.
Rape: Do victims of rape share any responsibility?
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Really, so both parties are drunk, sex happens without any coercion yet you say that the man is the only one culpable and responsible for their actions.
ummm if you wave a loaded gun at an officer you deserve to be shot. you don't deserve to be raped based on how you are dressed.
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Correct.
Now if you go out and get shit faced, does that automatically mean that all sex is rape?
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Who's post was you replying to?
There's been so much back and forth on here, that it's hard to tell.
Any fool who would try to tell me that it is "partially" my daughter's (wife's, sister's) fault because she just looked so good and shouldn't ever go out without a special escort. To that I'd say F**K YOU as I took "liberties" that would harm my karma.
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I agree with that.
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You have a lot of growing up to do. I was tempted to put up a thread asking "hate crimes; do black males share responsibility when they're tied to the back of a pick up truck in Texas and dragged to death" But I decided not to lower myself to your level.
Some women talk to rapists and rape apologists and thus serve as enablers. This bitch isn't one of them. You'll be on my ignore list. The only parting advice I can give you is to grow the fuck up.
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Imagine what kind of man groans this post? Yeah.
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Good for you. I'd never convict you.
The more posts I read written by men on the internet, the more and more I think women need to arm ourselves. However, if the deed is done I am all for her husband, bf, father, brother, son, putting the guy in a hole somewhere. Saves a trial and we don't have to listen to swarmy rape excuses about what she was wearing or what she had to drink. In fact, sounds like the perfect solution to me.
It hasn't happened and I feel angered in a way I haven't felt in years and years...
Just imagining some moron saying that... It almost makes me ill. I wouldn't even care if I went to prison. And you better believe that women should arm themselves. A$$holes who think like that are dangerous to everybody around them that may be in some way vulnerable and they only really understand one type of power.
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Damo I feel the same way. I am glad that you commented on this thread. You seem to have some idea of the frustration I go through reading this stuff when no one says anything. I believe a lot of it has flown under the radar, so I guess this thread is a good thing.
Considering how many there are just on this small board, arming ourselves seems wise, I agree.
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You missed the point. I said the courts will determine if such is the case, wherein they will rule that no rape occurred.
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exactly. you are never to be blamed for some third party criminal committing criminal acts upon your person. if someone walked down my street waving cash....i would not rob them. if some gorgeous lady in a mini-skirt, drunk off her ass walked down my street, i would not rape them.
could the two people have done things different if they were robbed or raped? sure...but it is most definitely not their fault.
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Yes well good luck with that, If two people get shitfaced, have sex and one party regrets it in the morning that's not rape. Why should they have to be subjected to the vagaries of a court, the expense, damage to career and the 'no smoke without fire' allegations. I think this article in Time really sums up quite succinctly how paranoid and unhinged much of the debate on this subject has been taken over by the thought police of the feminist blogosphere. I have highlighted one paragraph for you, does it sound familiar?
It’s Time to End ‘Rape Culture’ Hysteria
March 20, 2014
The nation's largest and most influential anti-sexual-violence organization is rejecting the idea that culture — as opposed to the actions of individuals — is responsible for rape.
“Rape is as American as apple pie,” says blogger Jessica Valenti. She and her sisters-in-arms describe our society as a “rape culture” where violence against women is so normal, it’s almost invisible. Films, magazines, fashion, books, music, humor, even Barbie — according to the activists — cooperate in conveying the message that women are there to be used, abused and exploited. Recently, rape-culture theory has migrated from the lonely corners of the feminist blogosphere into the mainstream. In January, the White House asserted that we need to combat campus rape by “[changing] a culture of passivity and tolerance in this country, which too often allows this type of violence to persist.”
On college campuses, obsession with eliminating “rape culture” has led to censorship and hysteria. At Boston University, student activists launched a petition demanding the cancellation of a Robin Thicke concert because the lyrics of his hit song “Blurred Lines” allegedly celebrate “systemic patriarchy and sexual oppression.” (The lyrics may not exactly be pleasant to many women, but song lyrics don’t turn men into rapists. Yet, ludicrously, the song has already been banned at more than 20 British universities.) Activists at Wellesley recently demanded that administrators remove a statue of a sleepwalking man: The image of a nearly naked male could “trigger” memories of sexual assault for victims. Meanwhile, a growing number of young men find themselves charged with rape, named publicly and brought before campus judicial panels informed by rape-culture theory. In such courts, due process is practically nonexistent: guilty because accused.
Rape-culture theorists dismiss critics who bring up examples of hysteria and false accusations as “rape denialists” and “rape apologists.” To even suggest that false accusations occur, according to activists, is to engage in “victim blaming.” But now, rape culturalists are confronting a formidable critic that even they will find hard to dismiss. RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) is America’s largest and most influential anti-sexual-violence organization. It’s the leading voice for sexual-assault victim advocacy. Indeed, rape-culture activists routinely cite the authority of RAINN to make their case. But in RAINN’s recent recommendations to the White House Task Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault, it repudiates the rhetoric of the anti–”rape culture” movement:
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In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campus. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important not to lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime.
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RAINN urges the White House to “remain focused on the true cause of the problem” and suggests a three-pronged approach for combating rape: empowering community members through bystander intervention education, using “risk-reduction messaging” to encourage students to increase their personal safety and promoting clearer education on “where the ‘consent line’ is.” It also asserts that we should treat rape like the serious crime it is by giving power to trained law enforcement rather than internal campus judicial boards. RAINN is especially critical of the idea that we need to focus on teaching men not to rape — the hallmark of rape-culture activism. Since rape exists because our culture condones and normalizes it, activists say, we can end the epidemic of sexual violence only by teaching boys not to rape. .
No one would deny that we should teach boys to respect women. But by and large, this is already happening. By the time men reach college, RAINN explains, “most students have been exposed to 18 years of prevention messages, in one form or another.” The vast majority of men absorb these messages and view rape as the horrific crime that it is. So efforts to address rape need to focus on the very small portion of the population that “has proven itself immune to years of prevention messages.” They should not vilify the average guy. By blaming so-called rape culture, we implicate all men in a social atrocity, trivialize the experiences of survivors, and deflect blame from the rapists truly responsible for sexual violence. RAINN explains that the trend of focusing on rape culture “has the paradoxical effect of making it harder to stop sexual violence, since it removes the focus from the individual at fault, and seemingly mitigates personal responsibility for his or her own actions.”
Moral panic over “rape culture” helps no one — least of all, survivors of sexual assault. College leaders, women’s groups and the White House have a choice. They can side with the thought police of the feminist blogosphere who are declaring war on Robin Thicke, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition, male statues and Barbie. Or they can listen to the sane counsel of RAINN.
Caroline Kitchens is a research assistant at the American Enterprise Institute
http://time.com/30545/its-time-to-end-rape-culture-hysteria/
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BTW I happen to know Damo is the kind of guy who will peel your skin off before he kills you.
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Nah... that would constitute 'playing nice'...
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