Reality check on electric cars

[floridafan]

yep.

nordberg has his head up his ass, as usual.

You think the EV's are gonna disappear, that this is just a fad?

 

[Into the Night]

You think the EV's are gonna disappear, that this is just a fad?

No. EV's have been around since 1832. They won't be as popular as you think they will, though, not even with government tyranny that you propose and support.

 

[floridafan]

No. EV's have been around since 1832. They won't be as popular as you think they will, though.

what makes you say that?

 

[Into the Night]

what makes you say that?

RQAA. Go back and read the thread.

 

[floridafan]

RQAA. Go back and read the thread.

Once again you are unable to answer a simple question

 

[Lao Tse]

You think the EV's are gonna disappear, that this is just a fad?

yes.

 

[Nordberg]

yes.

Good. My view of how you think and what passes for logic in your posts has been fortified again. You are surprisingly stupid.

 

[floridafan]

yes.

My dear, you are completely clueless.

 

[Into the Night]

Once again you are unable to answer a simple question

I have answered it. Go back and read the thread.

 

[Into the Night]

Good. My view of how you think and what passes for logic in your posts has been fortified again. You are surprisingly stupid.

You discard logic. How do you know his posts are conforming to logic?

 

[Into the Night]

My dear, you are completely clueless.

No, that would be YOU. Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that can't seem to handle going back and reading the thread.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You think the EV's are gonna disappear, that this is just a fad?

Yes, I do. The second fuel cell cars running on hydrogen or ammonia start being manufactured as alternative is the doom of the battery car. A fuel cell car can be refueled like a gasoline or diesel vehicle at a station that already exists and just has this new fuel added. It doesn't require long periods to refuel and the fuel is portable.

That means fuel cell vehicles in terms of the fuel they use are fully compatible with gasoline and diesel ones and don't require elaborate and separate infrastructure to support.

Battery cars are a technological dead end being forced on society by radical Leftist scientific and engineering illiterates like you.

 

[Nordberg]

Yes, I do. The second fuel cell cars running on hydrogen or ammonia start being manufactured as alternative is the doom of the battery car. A fuel cell car can be refueled like a gasoline or diesel vehicle at a station that already exists and just has this new fuel added. It doesn't require long periods to refuel and the fuel is portable.

That means fuel cell vehicles in terms of the fuel they use are fully compatible with gasoline and diesel ones and don't require elaborate and separate infrastructure to support.

Battery cars are a technological dead end being forced on society by radical Leftist scientific and engineering illiterates like you.

Nope. Batteries get better and better. They get lower in costs, higher in range and are being improved quickly. Somehow you assume the people building EVs could learn from you and they are stupid. When Chevy built the Volt they did long-involved studies. They found a range of about 50 miles a day would satisfy nearly every driver. The EV builders have done their homework. You have relied on right-wing beliefs. You are wrong.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Nope. Batteries get better and better. They get lower in costs, higher in range and are being improved quickly. Somehow you assume the people building EVs could learn from you and they are stupid. When Chevy built the Volt they did long-involved studies. They found a range of about 50 miles a day would satisfy nearly every driver. The EV builders have done their homework. You have relied on right-wing beliefs. You are wrong.

Wrong. Batteries are limited by physics and the periodic table. You can't get around either. Ammonia and hydrogen have both been on the scene for decades and work. People building EV's are doing so because the Leftist retards in government are paying them huge subsidies to do so. The market is skewed by the complete idiocy of the radical Left and you are stupidly buying into that.

 

[floridafan]

Yes, I do. The second fuel cell cars running on hydrogen or ammonia start being manufactured as alternative is the doom of the battery car. A fuel cell car can be refueled like a gasoline or diesel vehicle at a station that already exists and just has this new fuel added. It doesn't require long periods to refuel and the fuel is portable.

That means fuel cell vehicles in terms of the fuel they use are fully compatible with gasoline and diesel ones and don't require elaborate and separate infrastructure to support.

Battery cars are a technological dead end being forced on society by radical Leftist scientific and engineering illiterates like you.

I guess you know more than the major auto manufacturers worldwide.

 

[Nordberg]

Wrong. Batteries are limited by physics and the periodic table. You can't get around either. Ammonia and hydrogen have both been on the scene for decades and work. People building EV's are doing so because the Leftist retards in government are paying them huge subsidies to do so. The market is skewed by the complete idiocy of the radical Left and you are stupidly buying into that.

Right. https://cleantechnica.com/2022/12/09/ev-batteries-just-keep-getting-better-better/ they are improving exponentially. I trust the fact that range has gone up, up, and up. How do you erase that in your right-wing craziness? Bolt and others get 300 miles per charge. You can buy a Bolt for 26 K. Your stubborn right-windedness makes you blind to facts. Science marches on without your approval.

 

[Lionfish]

Right. https://cleantechnica.com/2022/12/09/ev-batteries-just-keep-getting-better-better/ they are improving exponentially. I trust the fact that range has gone up, up, and up. How do you erase that in your right-wing craziness? Bolt and others get 300 miles per charge. You can buy a Bolt for 26 K. Your stubborn right-windedness makes you blind to facts. Science marches on without your approval.

Wrong iguana breath,
plus, we are talking cars not rollerskates.

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/...pe=FINANCE&radius=250&year=2022&zipCode=48362

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Right. https://cleantechnica.com/2022/12/09/ev-batteries-just-keep-getting-better-better/ they are improving exponentially. I trust the fact that range has gone up, up, and up. How do you erase that in your right-wing craziness? Bolt and others get 300 miles per charge. You can buy a Bolt for 26 K. Your stubborn right-windedness makes you blind to facts. Science marches on without your approval.

You know nothing scientific or engineering-wise about batteries. That post shows it.

In fact, the craziest thing any EV company has done is Tesla's decision to start foam potting their batteries.

What Tesla has done by potting their battery is make it impossible to repair, and impossible to recycle. Great for Tesla making new batteries, bad for everyone else, and the environment. By the way, there isn't enough recoverable lithium on the planet to make enough batteries for the world to go completely EV in any case...

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022...aning “supply would be stretched”. More items

In fact, as EV production grows, estimates are that lithium will begin to be in short supply as early as next year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/cars/evs-species-extinct-nevada/index.html

So, you have widespread environmental destruction to build cars that eventually can no longer be built, and those that exist are worthless because their battery went bad and cannot be repaired.

What you call "Science marches on..." is really Greentards and radical Leftists wishing for something--like always--and expecting their wishes to become reality without a single credible fact backing them up. You are one of those retards.

 

[Hawkeye10]

You know nothing scientific or engineering-wise about batteries. That post shows it.

In fact, the craziest thing any EV company has done is Tesla's decision to start foam potting their batteries.


What Tesla has done by potting their battery is make it impossible to repair, and impossible to recycle. Great for Tesla making new batteries, bad for everyone else, and the environment. By the way, there isn't enough recoverable lithium on the planet to make enough batteries for the world to go completely EV in any case...

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022...aning “supply would be stretched”. More items

In fact, as EV production grows, estimates are that lithium will begin to be in short supply as early as next year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/10/cars/evs-species-extinct-nevada/index.html

So, you have widespread environmental destruction to build cars that eventually can no longer be built, and those that exist are worthless because their battery went bad and cannot be repaired.

What you call "Science marches on..." is really Greentards and radical Leftists wishing for something--like always--and expecting their wishes to become reality without a single credible fact backing them up. You are one of those retards.

You sound a lot like Neil Oliver of GB News...basically "This is not Green, this is more raping of the planet" re switching to EV's with current battery tech.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You sound a lot like Neil Oliver of GB News...basically "This is not Green, this is more raping of the planet" re switching to EV's with current battery tech.

Well, it really is. Recovering lithium is a very dirty and nasty business. Lithium is mostly found in arid regions that are dry deserts. The most common recovery method is to brine mine. This involves drilling wells and using millions of gallons of water to dissolve the lithium from salts closer to the surface. The process is toxic to life and depletes groundwater. Lithium mining makes fracking look downright Green.

Of course, the radical Leftist greentards don't give a shit since all that mining is happening in some Third World shithole they'll never visit. They only care about pollution in their own backyard and about feeling good that they're 'saving the planet' by driving what they are told is a Green car...