Republicans Admit DEFEAT

ZappasGuitar said:
I'd ask you for proof...but everyone already knows you don't "do" proof.

Let's just call it what it is...more unfounded third party HEARSAY from another partisan clown.
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That's because the 100 people he does know are in the asylum with him and they are covered by the insurance policy of that particular nut house...
 
Althea said:
Correct. The only difference is that gas will always be high, because the oil companies now shut down refineries whenever prices reach a low of app. $3.50/gallon.

As opposed to health insurance costs, which will continue to go down, as doctors stop writing orders for unnecessary tests/meds, and people have access to preventive care at no out of pocket cost, as opposed to waiting until treatment costs several thousands.
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Total horseshit
 
SmarterthanYou said:
because the ACA was written to allow exactly that thing to happen in order to force people to single payer
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Now you're at least attempting to have an honest discussion. Congratulations. Obama gave insurance companies one chance to do the right thing. He handed them millions of new customers. They renegged on a lot of what was promised, but they aren't stupid. If they screw this up, a public option is the easiest way to destroy their little game.

I think that's the best idea. Let all those who are complaining about their canceled polices, or complaining about ACA in general, purchase insurance on the private market. Let those who choose to buy in to Medicare do that. Everyone's happy, until the private market goes right back to screwing clients.
 
here is something I discovered this week......my daughter graduated from college and is trying to get into graduate school.....she cannot be included in my plan for free because she is not a full time student......we sat down and registered her for the ACA.....because she is working part time as a waitress she earns around $14k a year......she qualified for a subsidy.......but wait.....the application asks if she has student loans.....yes.....deduct the payments on her student loans......this brought her under $11,400 a year.......wait.....now her insurance is $211 a month?......something must be wrong....spent an hour and a half on hold with the government.......yes....its true.....in order for Obama care to help her with insurance she has to earn MORE than $11k a year or she doesn't qualify.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
here is something I discovered this week......my daughter graduated from college and is trying to get into graduate school.....she cannot be included in my plan for free because she is not a full time student......we sat down and registered her for the ACA.....because she is working part time as a waitress she earns around $14k a year......she qualified for a subsidy.......but wait.....the application asks if she has student loans.....yes.....deduct the payments on her student loans......this brought her under $11,400 a year.......wait.....now her insurance is $211 a month?......something must be wrong....spent an hour and a half on hold with the government.......yes....its true.....in order for Obama care to help her with insurance she has to earn MORE than $11k a year or she doesn't qualify.......
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First...what made you think you would get her on your plan for free? If your policy includes dependent coverage, they have to take her. Nobody ever claimed it would be free. That's kind of funny.

If she cannot afford $200/month, simply show more money in tips, and she'll meet the threshold. BTW...$11,400 is more than $11,000
 
Althea said:
First...what made you think you would get her on your plan for free? If your policy includes dependent coverage, they have to take her. Nobody ever claimed it would be free. That's kind of funny.

If she cannot afford $200/month, simply show more money in tips, and she'll meet the threshold. BTW...$11,400 is more than $11,000
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no shit?......I thought $11k was half of $11.4k......I take it from your comments you missed the point of the post....Obamacare does not help those who earn less.....as to being included free, as I recall, when they added her to my account in 2009, my premiums did not go up.....I certainly would have remembered a $200 a month premium increase.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no shit?......I thought $11k was half of $11.4k......I take it from your comments you missed the point of the post....Obamacare does not help those who earn less.....as to being included free, as I recall, when they added her to my account in 2009, my premiums did not go up.....I certainly would have remembered a $200 a month premium increase.....
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You got a premium increase every year...just like everyone else in the country.

Now, if you don't understand why $11,4000 is more than $11,000, perhaps you should read your original post and tell us what the hell you were talking about?


And...full time student status has no bearing. I'm sure she qualifies for Medicaid, if you wanted to go that route.
 
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