Retards are why we cannot have good things

ThatOwlWoman said:
IMO the pronoun thing is rather silly and certainly not something to get verklempt about, whether you're the person who prefers "they" to "she," or the person who inadvertently uses the non-preferred word. It's even more ridiculous though when the crazies get into the act and try to forbid certain words or language in schools. You're right; the latest Reichwing agenda is to seed school boards with like-minded extremists whose goal is to rewrite curricula and punish teachers who don't refuse to teach about racism, slavery, bigotry, prejudice, discrimination, and the fact that LGBTQ people exist.

I'm with your step-daughter: I personally prefer to use whatever pronoun someone else wants to be referred to by, but if I flub up I flub up. If they don't accept my apology, it's no big deal.
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I haven't had the issue yet with the pronoun thing. But we're old and we don't usually hang out with adolescents that often in social settings.

20 years ago, I had an aged, balding not very feminine looking friend who transitioned to female. This was long before it was fashionable.

He was a guy that I saw a handful of times/year at pool tournaments, but I knew him for a while.

He looked like an idiot. His feet were often too big for his high heels, his wig was cheap, and his huge hands weren't very feminine. He actually looked a lot like Katilin Jenner. Awkward when he walked, and he looked nothing like a woman.

We knew he was transitioning for quite some time, and I honestly had to prepare myself the first time I saw him. I saw him stumbling toward me with heels on, and had to turn away to hide my laughter. But...I spoke to him as I normally did, and if he was happy then so be it. He changed his name twice because going from Bill to Billy evidently was confusing to some. So he settled on Debbie.

Debbie died of prostate cancer not long after becoming a woman, but not before he went on a spree of beating up women in gay bars.

Bill was a kind, gentle, quiet man before his transition. I'm really not sure what happened to him.


Point is, when I speak of transgender issues w/respect to sports, I'm not just parroting talking points. Unlike most in the debate, I actually had a trans. friend since before his transition.
 
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ThatOwlWoman said:
I get the notifications that he's triggered, but can't see his vomit unless someone else quotes him. So it's all good. lol
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Exactly. It's a pain when you're active in discussions and the quotes page is taken up with quotes from people you haven't addressed in years.

Why do they bother?
 
Phantasmal said:
Your post didn’t mention that, you were going off on pronouns.

No, you and I will never agree on the issues of trans women, you are right about that.
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I wasn't 'going off' on anything.

I pointed out the lengths many go to come up with terms that won't offend anyone. Whether medical or social.

Which is an exercise in futility.

You then made the false claim that nobody is negatively affected by those who demand to be referred to in a certain way.

I merely pointed out that competing in physical activites gives some an unfair advantage, and the issue then becomes deeper than terminology.

We don't have to agree about that. As previously mentioned, I actually knew a person who transitioned before it was popular.

I don't care where people pee, what they wear, how they refer to themselves, or if they are babysitting children. They don't pose a threat.


When (as in the case of Lia Thomas) a male who was ranked 400+ in swimming dominates college swimming as a woman, that's a problem.

Further, the school is afraid to hurt his feelings, so he uses the woman's locker room even though the female athletes are extremely uncomfortable. He parades around with his dangling penis, and admits that he's still attracted to women.

So we now have a situation where the women have no rights. And that has to change.


Again...we don't have to agree. Facts are facts. I draw the line at sports. Everything else is fodder for political arguments over issues that don't harm anyone.
 
Althea said:
Exactly. It's a pain when you're active in discussions and the quotes page is taken up with quotes from people you haven't addressed in years.

Why do they bother?
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Good question...and
if you're threadbanned why bother to respond to a post on that thread by copying and reposting on Another? Silly...right? and odd there is no rule against that...;)
 
TOP said:
You do have a point.... I get so many notifications that are from reports of those who are threadbanned.... maybe we can get Damo to work on a solution for both of those pesky issues... but if not you just click them away and you don't even need to look... it doesn't take that much time;)
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You know how boards go. Every so often there is an issue that creates threads with hundreds of posts in a short period of time. If I post with coffee in the morning, and return hours later after work, my notifications are full.

I haven't figured out a way to find buried notifications yet.
 
Althea said:
You know how boards go. Every so often there is an issue that creates threads with hundreds of posts in a short period of time. If I post with coffee in the morning, and return hours later after work, my notifications are full.

I haven't figured out a way to find buried notifications yet.
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We have tried to address this to Damo many times. Nothing ever happened.
 
TOP said:
Good question...and
if you're threadbanned why bother to respond to a post on that thread by copying and reposting on Another? Silly...right? and odd there is no rule against that...;)
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For some reason, I get forgotten in thread ban lists.

I don't thread ban people, and I don't ever groan posts. I have seen people start a thread that calls out a member, but said member is thread banned.

It makes sense to start a different thread.

Same applies for troll threads with titles that are clearly lies. They thread ban everyone who has ever disagreed with them. So intelligent discussion on the topic must take place in a different thread.
 
Althea said:
For some reason, I get forgotten in thread ban lists.

I don't thread ban people, and I don't ever groan posts. I have seen people start a thread that calls out a member, but said member is thread banned.

It makes sense to start a different thread.

Same applies for troll threads with titles that are clearly lies. They thread ban everyone who has ever disagreed with them. So intelligent discussion on the topic must take place in a different thread.
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Yep. I do that all the time. Damo and I have discussed it. He agrees as long as you include "open thread" or different title with different OP, not direct copy.
 
Althea said:
You know how boards go. Every so often there is an issue that creates threads with hundreds of posts in a short period of time. If I post with coffee in the morning, and return hours later after work, my notifications are full.

I haven't figured out a way to find buried notifications yet.
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Ask Damo if you're really concerned....I doubt if you're missing out on anything really important...Just run through the threads you were posting in...Most of these threads aren't very long from morning to after you're done with work...or check in at lunch... I have missed a few important posts, but someone usually lets me know...even the mods every once in a while...true story...;)
 
TOP said:
Ask Damo if you're really concerned....I doubt if you're missing out on anything really important...Just run through the threads you were posting in...Most of these threads aren't very long from morning to after you're done with work...or check in at lunch... I have missed a few important posts, but someone usually lets me know...even the mods every once in a while...;)
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I'm not overly concerned. I started a discussion with Owl about morons who I haven't responded to in years, but they still can't quit me.

You can see how many times I've been qouted by the board racists/misogynists in certain threads. It doesn't take that many to fill up the 10 quote max on your list of notifications.

I just go to the threads and read through them to find the missing quotes.
 
Althea said:
For some reason, I get forgotten in thread ban lists.

I don't thread ban people, and I don't ever groan posts. I have seen people start a thread that calls out a member, but said member is thread banned.

It makes sense to start a different thread.

Same applies for troll threads with titles that are clearly lies. They thread ban everyone who has ever disagreed with them. So intelligent discussion on the topic must take place in a different thread.
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Different threads are fine to discuss......Makes no sense to repost a comment in another. however....but then neither does deleting hundreds and hundreds of posts or entire threads after yearsa....People do such silly things here sometimes...
 
Althea said:
I'm not overly concerned. I started a discussion with Owl about morons who I haven't responded to in years, but they still can't quit me.

You can see how many times I've been qouted by the board racists/misogynists in certain threads. It doesn't take that many to fill up the 10 quote max on your list of notifications.

I just go to the threads and read through them to find the missing quotes.
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I've honestly not noticed those quoting you... but I certainly do understand those not being able to quit, however...;)
It would be lovely not to have to maneuver around them, wouldn't it?
 
TOP said:
Different threads are fine to discuss......Makes no sense to repost a comment in another. however....but then neither does deleting hundreds and hundreds of posts or entire threads after yearsa....People do such silly things here sometimes...
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I say that the word sad works better than silly....but ya....
 
Why does the Fruitcake Teacher have a problem with responding to a post in another thread? This is a forum, is it not?
 
Phantasmal said:
It may be silly to you, but it isn’t to the people affected and trying to affirm to others who they are.
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Fair point. But clearly they haven't decided who they are, and it can be confusing to others who don't understand it.

As such, becoming militant because others don't refer to you in a way that makes you comfortable, is silly.

Life isn't easy for anyone. Best to accept that as you meander your way through it.

Provided there are no aggressive actions taken against these individuals. They have a right to their own reality up until it negatively affects others.
 
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