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Who did Cain marry??
Same-sex couples begin marrying
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Who did Cain marry??
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Thats fine. Then remove every government benefit from marriage an I'll have no problem with it being strictly a religious institution.
Cool take away the Government fee for the license.
By the way your quote is hilarious. You equate the death of the guilty, with the guilt of innocence.
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No, what I do is require that there be no laws based solely one religious dogma, as the US Constitution requires.
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So it was the offspring of his brothers and sisters? That is pure supposition. It is much more likely that there were tribes in Nod, from which Cain took a wife.
You are welcome to believe that Genesis is actually a historically accurate account of the beginning of the world. But luckily you cannot make that part of the laws in the US.
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Ok. I have said numerous times that I think the gov't should not be involved in it at all.
But at the same time you don't have a licence fee, you don't get the tax breaks, you don't get to make decisions for your spouse when they are unable, you don't get automatic rights of inheritance, there is no guarantee a child adopted by your spouse will stay with you if your spouse dies, you may or may not be able to make decisions concerning your spouse's funeral arrangements and resting place, ect ect ect.
Its a little late for that.....the Country and its Constitution was the creation of people that fled to this land to live by their own personal moral values and tolerance of the religious values that
that their mothers and fathers instilled in them over generations....it IS who they were, moral and religious values we still have to this day.....
The Constitution requires that ALL faiths are allowed here, not that all faiths are not allowed.............
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That is why I said "No, what I do is require that there be no laws based solely one religious dogma, as the US Constitution requires.
I require that the laws of this nation do not advocate any one religion over others.
And giving 1,400 benefits to an institution that is (so he claims) strictly a Biblical institution is unconstitutional.
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WTF? Nope, not a chance.
Egyptians who'd also practiced a form of marriage similar to today's version, we're talking 2055 B.C.E. in the 1st Intermediate Period all through the 2nd and into the 3rd (somewhere around 1300 - 1800 B.C.E.) Intermediate Period which even included marriage contracts.
Moses' exodus from Egypt was 1325 B.C.E., basically there's no such thing as Adam and Eve - you can't prove it any more than you could prove Jesus came back from the dead.
And that's without getting into the Confucius era of China, who was alive and kicking five hundred years before the mythical birth of Christ, with a written history of their version of marriage as well, again - that also predates the Bible, thus reducing your post to smithereens.
Some Native American tribes have had legal homosexual marriage for centuries. It's been happening here longer than Christianity has been known here. However, regardless of that, your religion has no place in the law that affects my life, unless i choose to follow your religion. It may be that I read the same Bible and find different meaning in it..
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I posted one time something similar to this and was shouted down.
I had seen an article that stated that some tribes believed that a person who felt they were trapped between the world of man and that of women, was considered to be sacred, and any one who took such a person as a partner, was honored.
I want religious freedom, marriage was instituted by God. I don't want one religion, but i do not see people out protesting the muslims views of kill anyone who doesn't believe as they do.
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I call bullshit...where's your peer reviewed scholarly evidence that proves beyond a shadow doubt that God instituted the concept of marriage?
It ain't the bible, we've already covered that marriage existed long before the bible was ever written.
Muslims? It's not all Muslims you fuck'n gullible retarded bitch...Islam, like Christianity has different denominations (sects), each with their own levels of ferver and devoutness (reform, orthodox, fundamentalists, et cetera). Which has absolutely fuck all to do with same sex marriage other than that religion being just as oppressive as Christianity is overall.
You gotta find a better medium for your homophobic talking points, "but Muslims" is NOT a factor.
Orthodox Christians were banging sledge hammers into the skulls of Muslim kids in both Croatia and Bosnia not all that long ago - just as Islam has it's own fucked sects that'll condem preteen rape victims to death by stoning or shoot little girls in the head because that same little girl wanted an education.
Religion is fuck'n stupid for a number of reasons, let's try and keep it out of the discussion of same sex marriage as it's not even remotely relevant.
Thanks.
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Then you aren't paying attention. I don't know of any non-muslim who agrees that they should be able to kill those who don't believe as they do. If you are going to make up "facts", at least try and come up with something believeable.
Call whatever you want, but leave the childish insults out of it, as it is an indication of your lack of education. Now, since the Bible is a Historical account of the origins of the Heavens, and the Earth, and creation as a whole, you are wrong. Yes marriage did exist before the Bible, but the Bible is a historically accurate text of how things including marriage came about.
Muslims are for the most part barbarians, Christians for the most part are not. I do not see Christians stoning people, shooting little girls in the head, killing them for being raped, or making them cover their entire bodies, or calling for the destruction of anyone who does not subscribe to Christian beliefs.
Do some research this is what the Kroan says which is the Holy Book for Muslims
http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs. - Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. - 44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight... reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight... reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths... and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled.
Lol, that was funny. Sin affects your genes.
Who supports the right of Muslims to kill non believers?