Shrubbie and Maineman

Taft2016 said:
Why do lefties have so much trouble sticking to the topic?

Yeah, we backed Bush on Iraq. So did all of the lefties in that video.
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And now you're all embarrassed that it turned into a debacle so you have to pretend the Dem votes counted. It was a simple majority vote and repubs had the majority in both houses.
 
Darla said:
Well that's what I don't get either. It's okay to burn to death tens of thousands (or in our case, hundreds of thousands) of people with bombs, but kill a few hundred with a chemical weapon and the entire world comes to a shocked standstill. There is something very wrong with this. I don't get this thinking at all. And the people who are up in arms wouldn't blink an eye if you firebombed a population as long as you claimed you only targeted military installations or "delivery systems" and the death of any civilians was regrettable. It's so crazy. It's entirely insane and I've given up trying to argue with it rationally. Because you cannot argue rationally against something irrational.

I wouldn't want to die in a chemical attack. I am certain it is horrifying and terrifying. I also wouldn't have wanted to be on the ground in Dresden...or Baghdad during shock and awe. Plenty of people died horrifying and terrifying deaths then too. Maybe war just sucks and should be avoided.
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Great post Darla. Thanks.
 
christiefan915 said:
And now you're all embarrassed that it turned into a debacle so you have to pretend the Dem votes counted. It was a simple majority vote and repubs had the majority in both houses.
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Well, when politicians have ONLY their voting record to go on, it certainly does matter.
 
christiefan915 said:
Why is it so hard for righties to admit they backed bush on Iraq? Instead you guys have to continually deflect and deflect from your own culpability by posting quotes and videos of Dems.

Admit you supported everything bush did, bravs. The truth shall set you free.
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Not accepting what the Dems were saying and whining about concerning Saddam and wmd since before Bush was elected is deflecting culpability.....and that is exactly what YOU are doing....yes sweetie, the truth shall set YOU free....YOU.


Of course I supported Bush....thats not the purpose of posting the quotes and you know it.....
I supported him and I'm very proud of that.....Saddam is gone, we won the war....
This is about lies and WHO was telling those lies....all you idiots can claim is Bush lied, Bush lied...
will I'm here to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that is bullshit......

If you insist it was all lies, then I'm proving that those lies started in 1996 by Democrats (before Bush) and continued until the war....

If you admit like I do, that it was not lies at all, it is what was honestly believed by both Dems and Repubs at that time....being wrong is totally different than lying.

Finding out in 2004 about something you claimed in 2002 means you were wrong....not lying
 
christiefan915 said:
And now you're all embarrassed that it turned into a debacle so you have to pretend the Dem votes counted. It was a simple majority vote and repubs had the majority in both houses.
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Ehhh, no. We're not embarrassed at all. We can stand by it because we know the facts of what lead up to it. It is you now who wants to pretend the Democrat votes didn't count. They did.

United States House of Representatives

Party Yes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3

United States Senate

Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0


Libs have had the WMD mantra beaten so far into their heads they know nothing else.
 
evince said:
I backed the Afgan war dude.

how does that line up with your foolish crap about me?
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Why Desh?

Why did you back the "Afgan" war?

No one has ever defeated the "Afgans".

War there bankrupted the USSR and has come damn close to bankrupting the U.S. as well.

Why do you want OUR children dying in needless wars DESH!!!???

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
 
maineman said:
He still has bush feces on his nose.... shrub could do no wrong in bravo's eyes. And all he has now is lame ass attempts to say "see! some democrats bought the bullshit too!" The fact of the matter is that the GOP members of congress were all but unanimous in support of dubya, whereas a majority of democrats opposed the war.
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The democrats didn't buy the bullshit.....they invented the bullshit, long before Bush came along....when you gonna start facing facts fool.....
The quotes prove it.....its undeniable fact.
 
Truth Detector said:
What does this have to do with Republicans; liberals have no shame when it comes to ignorance and hypocrisy.

Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo were the result of despotic dictators trying to take over the world you putz. AmeriKa was the good guy trying to free Europe from a despotic megalomaniac if you don't remember.

I'm amused when naive Liberals in their child like views of the world rant about peace; what despot, tyrant, dictator or terrorist ever gave a shit about peace. Whining about AmeriKas war mongering is about as moronic as complaining about the mess you made shitting your liberal pants trying to have a coherent thought.
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You are making a very good case for most idiotic poster of the entire site. Un-fucking real.
 
christiefan915 said:
Doesn't matter. It was repub votes that made it pass.
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Now you resort to outright lies ?

The War Resolution would not have passed without the votes of Democrats....without the Dem. votes, there would have been no Iraqi War.....
Those are the cold hard facts.
 
Rune said:
You are making a very good case for most idiotic poster of the entire site. Un-fucking real.
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You show 'em pRune.....show him exactly where he got it wrong....show him exactly what is idiotic about his post....go for it.
 
Taft2016 said:
Ehhh, no. We're not embarrassed at all. We can stand by it because we know the facts of what lead up to it. It is you now who wants to pretend the Democrat votes didn't count. They did.

United States House of Representatives

Party Yes Nays PRES No Vote
Republican 215 6 0 2
Democratic 82 126 0 1
Independent 0 1 0 0
TOTALS 297 133 0 3

United States Senate

Party Ayes Nays No Vote
Republican 48 1 0
Democratic 29 21 0
Independent 0 1 0
TOTALS 77 23 0

Libs have had the WMD mantra beaten so far into their heads they know nothing else.
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It does look like a couple of votes are missing from the House, 433 vs. 435.

Bottom line, repubs supported the resolution by far more votes than dems did.
 
NOVA said:
Now you resort to outright lies ?

The War Resolution would not have passed without the votes of Democrats....without the Dem. votes, there would have been no Iraqi War.....
Those are the cold hard facts.
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After being totally lied to by the administration about WMDs, yellow cake, etc - then yes, a lot of Democrats supported the Commander in Chief.

If they hadn't, you would have accused them of being unpatriotic.

This does not change the facts: Bush lied. The Iraq war was a senseless slaughter of both Iraqis and American soldiers. With this stupid, senseless war, Bush killed more Americans than were killed on 9/11.

You are proud of Bush? you are proud of a mass killer.

Bush's lies have been proven well beyond the shadow of a doubt.

And you're proud of him. I would spit on your grave, except you do not deserve to be buried in the same ground that so many brave soldiers now rest in.
 
NOVA said:
The democrats didn't buy the bullshit.....they invented the bullshit, long before Bush came along....when you gonna start facing facts fool.....
The quotes prove it.....its undeniable fact.
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The facts are that Clinton didn't take the country to war and bush did.
 
NOVA said:
You show 'em pRune.....show him exactly where he got it wrong....show him exactly what is idiotic about his post....go for it.
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Sorry that you finally lost your spot, Bravo, but this moron is actually dumber than you, as hard as that is for anyone to believe.

As far as wasting more time, sorry but he can look at a page full of contrary evidence and still insist he is right...been there, done that. TFF
 
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