Socialized medicine a global failure

[Robo]

Is there someone in America who does not wait to see a doctor? When I call for an appointment, I get one in about 3 weeks.

You’re making a case for America’s “FOR PROFIT” healthcare Nordi. Even 3 weeks beats the shit out of 7 to 10 weeks for a GP and 7 to 10 months or even 2 years for surgeries and SEVERAL WEEKS for a specialist appointment in socialized medicine countries, unless of course you have connections and money or belong to the correct political party.

I don’t know where you live, but I live in a highly populated area and I get doctor’s appointments for GP under 3 weeks, and specialist appointments under a week. I’ve had several critical procedures scheduled and performed under a week and a life saving operation scheduled and performed in 6 days.

That is waiting. If I need a specialist, my doctor has to make a connection. So I go to him first, then get an appointment with specialists in the future.

I need NO referrals from a GP to see a specialist Nordi! You need to buy better insurance!!!

Of course I waste half a day at the doctors office too. Wait,wait, wait. That is part of any medical system.

If you think your waiting is bad now, wait till healthcare is FREE!!!!!

My Canadian friends laugh when I ask if they want to trade for our system. The rest of the world laughs at our system. Healthcare is a right.

If my healthcare is a right then I’ll be expecting you and Frank and every other leftie to buy me and mine a nice house where it’s warm in the winter and cooled in the summer and you need to buy all of my food and transport me to the doctor too!!! All of that is related to my HEALTHCARE!!!!! Healthcare asa right is preposterous!!!!

Saw a reporter asking some people walking from America to a Mexican town what they thougt about the wall. They said we are against it. We are going to town to get dental care and prescriptions

America has great dental care too Nordi!!! The problem isn’t dental care, it’s INSURANCE Nordi!!! Vote the bastards out of Washington, DRAIN THE SWAMP Nordi!!! If you think Americans are walking to Mexico now for healthcare, just wait till it’s FREE in America!!!!!

 

[Robo]

Proof positive dat de Nile is more den just a river in Egypt!

Congrats FRANK!!!! You finally admitted you've been brainwashed by the WHO and the neo-commie Democrats.

 

[Robo]

You'd think by now most people who know what single payer- private delivery is and would stop bleating "socialized medicine".

You mean YOU'D think by now that everybody had been as brainwashed by the WHO and the neoi-commie Democrats. Well Not quite friend! Some of us search for the truth!

 

[Robo]

This silly capitalist quacking! We pay half as much for the NHS as you do to kill the poor, man! If you run a health service for profit, you are running an expensive murder-machine.

That's why so many people clammier and scramble to get into America, even illegally, Commie! We have to build walls to keep em out. They wanta come here to be murdered by our expensive machine!

 

[Ross Dolan]

Congrats FRANK!!!! You finally admitted you've been brainwashed by the WHO and the neo-commie Democrats.

Poor Robo!

Listen up, Guy.

SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS KICKING OUR ASS.

Totally.

Seriously.

Hard enough to cause nose bleed.

Only the most ignorant among us does not realize that.

Which probably accounts for your posts.

 

[Nordberg]

You’re making a case for America’s “FOR PROFIT” healthcare Nordi. Even 3 weeks beats the shit out of 7 to 10 weeks for a GP and 7 to 10 months or even 2 years for surgeries and SEVERAL WEEKS for a specialist appointment in socialized medicine countries, unless of course you have connections and money or belong to the correct political party.

I don’t know where you live, but I live in a highly populated area and I get doctor’s appointments for GP under 3 weeks, and specialist appointments under a week. I’ve had several critical procedures scheduled and performed under a week and a life saving operation scheduled and performed in 6 days.



I need NO referrals from a GP to see a specialist Nordi! You need to buy better insurance!!!



If you think your waiting is bad now, wait till healthcare is FREE!!!!!




If my healthcare is a right then I’ll be expecting you and Frank and every other leftie to buy me and mine a nice house where it’s warm in the winter and cooled in the summer and you need to buy all of my food and transport me to the doctor too!!! All of that is related to my HEALTHCARE!!!!! Healthcare asa right is preposterous!!!!




America has great dental care too Nordi!!! The problem isn’t dental care, it’s INSURANCE Nordi!!! Vote the bastards out of Washington, DRAIN THE SWAMP Nordi!!! If you think Americans are walking to Mexico now for healthcare, just wait till it’s FREE in America!!!!!

Healthcare is never free. But universal coverage is much cheaper and it is comprehensive. We pay double what other countries do and many of Amruicans have no healthcare and many have poor quality health care. Universal healthcare is cheaper. Millions spend thousands a month for health care and still have copays . We are being looted by the healthcare and PHARM industry. They have the largest amount of lobbyists that they sic on congress. We waste money on health insurance companies who loot our system for billions. We get gouged by hard medical goods manufacturers. We are being looted and have a lousy system. You are again, flat out wrong. Don't like something, give it a scary label. Call it socialism, which triggers people like you.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Why would anybody vote to give up the healthcare they have when they've already been taxed to death for it? Why would anybody vote for America's healthcare INSURANCE SCAM, where the federal government is bought and paid for by BIG Pharma and BIG Insurance corporate lobbyist? America's problem isn't healthcare it's among the best on earth. America's problem is health INSURANCE!!!! Ir SUCKS!!!!! It's a racket contrived by politicians of both duopoly parties and the corporate powers that be and their bribery system!!!!!

Agreed, but you need BETTER regulation and oversight, NOT to throw out everything and revert to state by state, differential pay rates..

 

[Robo]

Poor Robo!

Listen up, Guy.

SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS KICKING OUR ASS.

Totally.

Seriously.

Hard enough to cause nose bleed.

Only the most ignorant among us does not realize that.

Which probably accounts for your posts.

Thank God frank that you and I most likely won't see Single Payer in America. I would sympathizes with the younger folks that will suffer with it until it bankrupts the nation, but if they vote it into federal offices with the socialist drones that promote it, it'll serve them right to deal with the shit-house it will become.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Thank God frank that you and I most likely won't see Single Payer in America. I would sympathizes with the younger folks that will suffer with it until it bankrupts the nation, but if they vote it into federal offices with the socialist drones that promote it, it'll serve them right to deal with the shit-house it will become.

There are people posting in JPP right now who will see universal healthcare in the United States...and we will be the better for it.

ALL the people will be the better for it.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

That's why so many people clammier and scramble to get into America, even illegally, Commie! We have to build walls to keep em out. They wanta come here to be murdered by our expensive machine!

are commies still under your bed or breeding in your bathroom

 

[kudzu]

You’re making a case for America’s “FOR PROFIT” healthcare Nordi. Even 3 weeks beats the shit out of 7 to 10 weeks for a GP and 7 to 10 months or even 2 years for surgeries and SEVERAL WEEKS for a specialist appointment in socialized medicine countries, unless of course you have connections and money or belong to the correct political party.

I don’t know where you live, but I live in a highly populated area and I get doctor’s appointments for GP under 3 weeks, and specialist appointments under a week. I’ve had several critical procedures scheduled and performed under a week and a life saving operation scheduled and performed in 6 days.



I need NO referrals from a GP to see a specialist Nordi! You need to buy better insurance!!!



If you think your waiting is bad now, wait till healthcare is FREE!!!!!




If my healthcare is a right then I’ll be expecting you and Frank and every other leftie to buy me and mine a nice house where it’s warm in the winter and cooled in the summer and you need to buy all of my food and transport me to the doctor too!!! All of that is related to my HEALTHCARE!!!!! Healthcare asa right is preposterous!!!!




America has great dental care too Nordi!!! The problem isn’t dental care, it’s INSURANCE Nordi!!! Vote the bastards out of Washington, DRAIN THE SWAMP Nordi!!! If you think Americans are walking to Mexico now for healthcare, just wait till it’s FREE in America!!!!!

You've been sold a bill of goods.

 

[CFM]

You've been sold a bill of goods.

If someone is unwilling to provide for him/herself and his/her family things they should be providing, they aren't worth what it would take to provide it to them. Anyone that doesn't care enough for their own has admitted they aren't worth the cost of anyone else doing it. If you don't think you're valuable enough to do for yourself, you're not valuable enough for me to do for you.

 

[Robo]

Healthcare is never free. But universal coverage is much cheaper and it is comprehensive.

You’d be oh so surprised Nordi how many assholes in America believe Single Payer is FREE.

We pay double what other countries do and many of Amruicans have no healthcare and many have poor quality health care.

Well Nordi, I don’t know how old you are, but I just hope you’re young enough to see your Single Payer disaster inevitability when it happens in America. Your rejoicing will soon become your rude awakening. You think 3 weeks wait now is long? That’s cake Nordi! You’ll see what a real wait is. You’ll see your healthcare turn into a third-world cluster-fuck! There’s nowhere near enough doctors in America to handle 300-400 million people. America Ain’t Canada or some small European country. You’ll love your tax rate Nordi, unless you’re already on the government bribery programs. You’ll watch what you think is the worst healthcare in the Industrial western world, (as the commie WHO has you believing), quickly actually become the worst healthcare ever in America. You’ll see Americans fleeing to Mexico for healthcare.

Universal healthcare is cheaper. Millions spend thousands a month for health care and still have copays . We are being looted by the healthcare and PHARM industry. They have the largest amount of lobbyists that they sic on congress. We waste money on health insurance companies who loot our system for billions. We get gouged by hard medical goods manufacturers. We are being looted and have a lousy system. You are again, flat out wrong. Don't like something, give it a scary label. Call it socialism, which triggers people like you.

You repeat what I’ve been saying about our system, and then say I’m “flat out wrong.” What you just described friend is what I’ve been saying ad-nausea. Your failure friend is you don’t want to know the difference between “healthcare” and “health insurance!”

 

[iolo]

That's why so many people clammier and scramble to get into America, even illegally, Commie! We have to build walls to keep em out. They wanta come here to be murdered by our expensive machine!

No, kid - they come from the colonies you steal from. Don't worry, naziboy - I'm about as tempted by your shithole as I am by Trump's arse! That's not much, by the way, trumper!

 

[kudzu]

You’d be oh so surprised Nordi how many assholes in America believe Single Payer is FREE.



Well Nordi, I don’t know how old you are, but I just hope you’re young enough to see your Single Payer disaster inevitability when it happens in America. Your rejoicing will soon become your rude awakening. You think 3 weeks wait now is long? That’s cake Nordi! You’ll see what a real wait is. You’ll see your healthcare turn into a third-world cluster-fuck! There’s nowhere near enough doctors in America to handle 300-400 million people. America Ain’t Canada or some small European country. You’ll love your tax rate Nordi, unless you’re already on the government bribery programs. You’ll watch what you think is the worst healthcare in the Industrial western world, (as the commie WHO has you believing), quickly actually become the worst healthcare ever in America. You’ll see Americans fleeing to Mexico for healthcare.





You repeat what I’ve been saying about our system, and then say I’m “flat out wrong.” What you just described friend is what I’ve been saying ad-nausea. Your failure friend is you don’t want to know the difference between “healthcare” and “health insurance!”

Nobody thinks single payer is free.. Who told you that?

 

[CFM]

No, kid - they come from the colonies you steal from. Don't worry, naziboy - I'm about as tempted by your shithole as I am by Trump's arse! That's not much, by the way, trumper!

The asses by which you're tempted are black. Pucker up.

 

[CFM]

Nobody thinks single payer is free.. Who told you that?

So those not contributing to what funds it are paying for it?

Next thing you'll tell us is that food stamp recipients pay the taxes that fund food stamps.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Robo,

I checked out the link. Here is a statement from your link:

"Nothing contained in this blog is to be construed as necessarily reflecting the views of the Pacific Research Institute or as an attempt to thwart or aid the passage of any legislation."

It's a BLOG!

It's opinion.

Nothing more significant that a post at JPP.

"The Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy (PRI) is a California-based free-market think tank which promotes "the principles of individual freedom and personal responsibility" through policies that emphasize a free economy, private initiative, and limited government.[3]" wiki

 

[kudzu]

So those not contributing to what funds it are paying for it?

Next thing you'll tell us is that food stamp recipients pay the taxes that fund food stamps.

Paying insurance companies doesn't treat patients. .. Its a cost .. a huge cost that is tacked on to office visits, tests, procedures, surgeries and hospital stays.


Hospitals can't write off losses so they treat indigent, the elderly, million dollar preemies and the disabled by shifting the cost to YOU.. Your premium and deductible continues to go up exponentially as more employers don't offer health insurance and the huge boomer population works its way thru the system like a pig thru a python.

 

[CFM]

Paying insurance companies doesn't treat patients. .. Its a cost .. a huge cost that is tacked on to office visits, tests, procedures, surgeries and hospital stays.


Hospitals can't write off losses so they treat indigent, the elderly, million dollar preemies and the disabled by shifting the cost to YOU.. Your premium and deductible continues to go up exponentially as more employers don't offer health insurance and the huge boomer population works its way thru the system like a pig thru a python.

You have an aversion to answering questions don't you? Under what you support, do those that don't contribute to the pot get care?

I've offered a solution to the problem you mention. Hospitals shouldn't be required to treat those that can't pay or get a bleeding heart like you to pay on their behalf. That way there are no costs increases because people that aren't paying get something they don't pay for. See how easy that is?