1.) Vance is unbeatable at this moment.
I agree, but that is this one man's opinion.
If the rest of Trumps term continues - no one will have chance against him.
That's the way I see it ... meaning if I were a betting man, I'd drop a few grand on Vance today at the Wynn Sportsbook in Vegas.
2.) Gabbard would be slaughtered, She has no party.
This is where you err. If Gabbard were the nominee for the Democrats, hypothetically, she would have all the Democrat votes, she would have many conservative votes (there are many Republicans and conservatives who really like her) plus she would have DNC operatives cheating feverishly in her favor. Remember, Tulsi has always made regular appearances on Fox News and other conservative venues, all the while she was a Democrat. There is no way anyone can simply erase her fan base.
The REAL question is "will the democrat party still exist in 2028?"
This is more or less why I created this thread. Like you, I don't see any viability in the imploded Democrat party. I already see things as you do. Now I want to better understand how Democrats and leftists see it and what path forward they imagine exists for them. I honestly don't believe they learned anything from the 2024 election, or from the 2020 election or the 2016 election. I believe that the DNC will continue in the only way they know how, which is completely counterproductive and will hand the 2028 election to Vance, but we'll see.
The Democrat party will still be around in 2028. There is still life at the State and local level, but people are fleeing the Democrat party, and the DNC has lost vast swaths of blacks and hispanics to the Republican party. That damage won't be so readily undone.
The Democratic Socialists might put up an AOC/Sanders ticket.
I'd be very interested to see that. It would represent a fundamental shift in the DNC power structure because up until 2020, the DNC would simply not allow Bernie Sanders to be their nominee for President. Bernie was blacklisted. I think he still is, and that if he weren't such a socialist that he would have otherwise joined Trump, Gabbard and Kennedy in jumping ship for the Republican party where there is at least a chance.
The splinter groups that emerge from the old swamp might put Schumer or some other fossil up. None of the parties that rise from the ashes of the democrats will have enough support to challenge the GOP on a national level.
Correct. I'm trying to gain some insight into who Democrats and leftists would like to see become their nominee, and sympathize with them when the DNC ignores their voices and simply picks the worst possible candidate for them.