Straight Question for the Left (and Everybody Else)

Although I'm an independent voter, I can tell you that it sure won't be a Republican; my mind is made up on that.
So you need to retract your previous statement if you won't support any candidate who condemns corporate power over people.
 
Who is the DNC's top candidate for President? Who stands the best chance to run against Vance? I can't think of anyone in the Democrat party with any hope. What am I not seeing?

Straight Answer: Gavin Newsom.

As pathetic as this is, it is where the democrats stand right now.
 
So you agree with me.

1.) Vance is unbeatable at this moment. If the rest of Trumps term continues - no one will have chance against him.
2.) Gabbard would be slaughtered, She has no party. You may view that as a good thing - but she would have no support from the GOP or the democrats.

The REAL question is "will the democrat party still exist in 2028?"

I'm going to say "no." The Democratic Socialists might put up an AOC/Sanders ticket. The splinter groups that emerge from the old swamp might put Schumer or some other fossil up. None of the parties that rise from the ashes of the democrats will have enough support to challenge the GOP on a national level.
 
Michelle Obama
Oprah
Stephen Colbert
Jon Stewart

Any of the above would win in today's America.

You love leftist celebrities. Most of America does not.

None would stand a chance. I still chuckle that you think a hate monger from hate night TV would be viable as a presidential challenge.
 
Interesting. Thank you for your perspective.


Definitely a plus.


Nope. He is far left. If he were to become the Democrat nominee for President, he would be pummeled for his tyrannically unconstitutional attempts to penalize and fine gun owners for any reportedly unsecured firearms that have not yet been confiscated. Pritzker is also hell bent on eliminating gasoline and natural gas by 2050. He has clamped Illinois down as a sanctuary State and won't cooperate with ICE or any Federal agencies. Pritzker would have to rebrand away from "Prevent America from Becoming Great Again ... at All Costs!"


Correct. He has $millions just in petty cash to toss around.


Wise Democrats and leftists know that Trump doesn't have charisma; he holds the right positions that resonate with We the People. He wins elections because he serves Us, not the other way around. The reason this matters is that the DNC will have to make a decision when it comes Presidential election time, and if Democrats continue to insult We the People for supporting a man who holds the positions We want him hold, that will spell yet another disaster for the DNC. Every mention of "Trumptard" or "Trumpanzee" just solidifies Trump's next win on the political stage.


Can he adopt all the right positions as Trump does? Anyone who simply does the opposite of what Trump does will adopt all the wrong positions and will lose before getting out of the starting gate.


I saw it in my crystal ball. Vance wins in 2028.


As we have already seen, Trump is eliminating power from the Federal government and is returning it to the States, as he has done with abortion and with education.
Is there anyone on the extended list I included who you don’t think is “far left?” In your view, every Democrat is “far left”

Not true, to MAGA Trump is all charisma, he can get away with saying anything, rationalize anything, and a quick smile or smirk, MAGA will accept it, Trump doesn’t draw all those crowds because he talks policy

Not true, 2020 proves that incorrect

Nothing could be further from the truth, Truth continues to ignore Congress, actually ruling thru Executive Order, which he has done more times in six months than any other President did in four years. And using the Federal Government to control State and Cities policies he doesn’t like is hardly returning power to the States. Abortion was the SCOTUS
 
1.) Vance is unbeatable at this moment.
I agree, but that is this one man's opinion.

If the rest of Trumps term continues - no one will have chance against him.
That's the way I see it ... meaning if I were a betting man, I'd drop a few grand on Vance today at the Wynn Sportsbook in Vegas.

2.) Gabbard would be slaughtered, She has no party.
This is where you err. If Gabbard were the nominee for the Democrats, hypothetically, she would have all the Democrat votes, she would have many conservative votes (there are many Republicans and conservatives who really like her) plus she would have DNC operatives cheating feverishly in her favor. Remember, Tulsi has always made regular appearances on Fox News and other conservative venues, all the while she was a Democrat. There is no way anyone can simply erase her fan base.

The REAL question is "will the democrat party still exist in 2028?"
This is more or less why I created this thread. Like you, I don't see any viability in the imploded Democrat party. I already see things as you do. Now I want to better understand how Democrats and leftists see it and what path forward they imagine exists for them. I honestly don't believe they learned anything from the 2024 election, or from the 2020 election or the 2016 election. I believe that the DNC will continue in the only way they know how, which is completely counterproductive and will hand the 2028 election to Vance, but we'll see.

I'm going to say "no."
The Democrat party will still be around in 2028. There is still life at the State and local level, but people are fleeing the Democrat party, and the DNC has lost vast swaths of blacks and hispanics to the Republican party. That damage won't be so readily undone.

The Democratic Socialists might put up an AOC/Sanders ticket.
I'd be very interested to see that. It would represent a fundamental shift in the DNC power structure because up until 2020, the DNC would simply not allow Bernie Sanders to be their nominee for President. Bernie was blacklisted. I think he still is, and that if he weren't such a socialist that he would have otherwise joined Trump, Gabbard and Kennedy in jumping ship for the Republican party where there is at least a chance.

The splinter groups that emerge from the old swamp might put Schumer or some other fossil up. None of the parties that rise from the ashes of the democrats will have enough support to challenge the GOP on a national level.
Correct. I'm trying to gain some insight into who Democrats and leftists would like to see become their nominee, and sympathize with them when the DNC ignores their voices and simply picks the worst possible candidate for them.
 
You love leftist celebrities. Most of America does not.

None would stand a chance. I still chuckle that you think a hate monger from hate night TV would be viable as a presidential challenge.
So this marks the end of my reading your posts. You're not serious, you're a compulsive liar, and just plain stupid. Have fun posting propaganda to yourself!
 
Is there anyone on the extended list I included who you don’t think is “far left?”
You have to admit, all the people you mentioned are on the list because they are rabidly anti-Trump. There are no moderate politicians in the Democrat party anymore. All the moderates jumped ship. All that's left are arch-leftists frothing at the mouth.

Pick one and let's discuss his/her positions.

In your view, every Democrat is “far left”
That is where the Democrat party has positioned itself, and that has nothing to do with me. Consider the party of open borders, killing children, abolishing the 2nd Amendment, rendering the citizenry defenseless, opposing everything that would make America great again ... how can you fit any moderate into that framework?

Not true, to MAGA Trump is all charisma,
Nope. Go with what I wrote.

he can get away with saying anything,
Nope. You seemingly did not learn anything from this past election.

Not true, 2020 proves that incorrect
Trump won that election, but it was stolen. Nobody voted for Biden. All his votes were fabricated via cheating.

Truth continues to ignore Congress,
Trump should ignore Congress when it comes to executing the law. Only the President has any executive power. Congress has none.

actually ruling thru Executive Order,
Trump only "rules" the Federal government through executive orders. None of the executive orders affect you.

And using the Federal Government to control State and Cities policies
Influence and negotiation are not control. Learn the difference between those words.
 
Yes, both Epstein (was) and Vance - really into "fisting".

You have some very graphic fantasies.

We can tell what you're into. I assume you learned to enjoy that when you were in prison? China has some brutal prisons, I hear.

Seriously? Because I have eyes and ears. trump is acting so guilty, you'd have to be blind and deaf not to see it!

It's because you make up everything you post. You're a pathological liar.
 
You have to admit, all the people you mentioned are on the list because they are rabidly anti-Trump. There are no moderate politicians in the Democrat party anymore. All the moderates jumped ship. All that's left are arch-leftists frothing at the mouth.

Pick one and let's discuss his/her positions.


That is where the Democrat party has positioned itself, and that has nothing to do with me. Consider the party of open borders, killing children, abolishing the 2nd Amendment, rendering the citizenry defenseless, opposing everything that would make America great again ... how can you fit any moderate into that framework?


Nope. Go with what I wrote.


Nope. You seemingly did not learn anything from this past election.


Trump won that election, but it was stolen. Nobody voted for Biden. All his votes were fabricated via cheating.


Trump should ignore Congress when it comes to executing the law. Only the President has any executive power. Congress has none.


Trump only "rules" the Federal government through executive orders. None of the executive orders affect you.


Influence and negotiation are not control. Learn the difference between those words.
Over half the country is antiTrump, the people listed represent that bloc, so they do oppose Trump. and it is noteworthy how you think anyone criticizing or challenging Trump is automatically “arch leftists frothing at the mouth,” you’ve certainly bought the melodrama your media sells

Nah, why, I could pick anyone, and you’d start with the “he said this, she did that,” your thread was inquiring on Democrat potentials for 2028 and I delivered over thirty

Right, and as I have said, sasquatch, Princes Diana, and Jim Morrison were spotted last week doing lunch in Vegas

A President can not execute the law passed by Congress by ignoring that law.

Exactly, he is ruling thru Executive Orders, just as Putin and XI do thru their orders

Use whatever semantics you want, when Trump does something as tell NYC what local traffic laws they can employ in their city it is the President of the US unnecessarily interfering in local affairs, taking power as simple as controlling traffic away from that municipality. Trump is doing what he can wherever he can to concentrate as much power as he can
 
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