Syria 'welcomes' proposal to hand over control of chemical weapons

Now the right has NO way they can call the deal an Obama fail.

they have to go along with it or look like completely insane people.

score Obama
 
its sure gave the Russian a good idea huh?


damo this was orchastraited by the Obama team and even you know it

I think the Obama team was in over its head and finally an adult stepped in to help. They couldn't stop digging that hole deeper, even when it appeared that the House would not support his face saving bombing run into Syria after his stupid teleprompterless "red line" Kerry then went out and threatened them.

I'm hopeful that Obama is smart enough to know when somebody is holding their hand out to help. Of course, last week Russia were "evil" in Desh's eye... Now she's praying Obama takes up Russia on the offer so he won't look like an ass when the House votes against his "action".
 
pootin is the adult?


do you REALLY think NO ONE asked assad ti give them up before pootin did?


oh come on
 
Giving them a ridiculous time limit and saying "but you won't" isn't just a threat, it's kindergarten. This ad hoc foreign policy is dangerous, thankfully smarter heads took advantage of Kerry's stupid threat.

Yeah, seems the administration is having a tough one with this, they really want to bomb it seems, I don't see Congress going along with them. It was obviously that "smart diplomacy" we were promised. :rolleyes: This is from a bit more than an hour ago:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/

...U.S. official: Kerry "clearly went off script"

But as Russia and Syria later suggested that it could be done, one U.S. official called Kerry's remarks a "major goof," adding that America's top diplomat "clearly went off script."

"There is no one in the administration who is taking this Syria proposal seriously," the official said.


Several State Department representatives tried to clarify Kerry's remarks later in the day, calling them a "rhetorical argument."

"His point was that this brutal dictator (al-Assad) with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said. "That's why the world faces this moment."

Kerry's comments caught Russia's attention

It wasn't long before the remarks came up in a conversation between Lavrov and Kerry, who talked on the phone as the U.S. secretary of state flew back from London.

"I saw your comments this morning," Lavrov said to Kerry, according to a senior State Department official.

During a 14-minute conversation that had been previously scheduled, the Russian foreign minister said he would speak out about the issue but played down the idea that a proposal was on the table, the official said.

Kerry told Lavrov that the United States "is not going to 'play games,'" the official said. "If there is a serious proposal, we will take a look."


Could 'goof' be solution?

The comments from Kerry and counterparts in Russia and Syria are the latest twist in an international crisis that has also become a fierce political battle in the United States.

The Obama administration says the al-Assad government was behind an August 21 chemical weapons attack outside Damascus. And the U.S. president is seeking congressional approval for a military strike in response.

So far he's met resistance from lawmakers and the public who are concerned about the United States again intervening militarily in a foreign crisis.

On Monday, Harf said looking at the Russian proposal doesn't mean the White House is backing down from its push to get authorization to strike Syria.

"In fact, the opposite. .... We think this is why it's even more important that Congress votes to authorize the president to use military action against Syrian regime targets, because we can be clear that if we don't give authorization to do so and we don't respond, then Assad will see that as a green light to continue using these chemical weapons."

But could Kerry's possible gaffe be the key to a diplomatic solution?

Commentator Andrew Sullivan says he hopes so.

"We have the possibility of two things: that Russia might actually act decisively to rein Assad in, and also support the only viable policy to accomplish what Obama wants -- protecting the world from these vile weapons," Sullivan wrote Monday. "I have no idea whether this is a serious move by Lavrov -- but it sure seems so, and it presents a fascinating non-binary option. ... Sometimes, it seems, Kerry's incompetence strikes gold. Here's hoping."

Whatever happens, the prospect of a diplomatic deal is likely going to make the Obama administration's attempts to make a case before Congress even more difficult, said Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Lawmakers who are already debating whether or not to pass resolutions authorizing military action now may want to rewrite them, he said.

"It's going to obviously throw a monkey wrench in the gears on a number of things," he said.

Reaction in the United States, beyond

French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said the Russian proposal "deserves a thorough examination."

It would be acceptable under several conditions, Fabius said. Al-Assad should immediately hand over control of the weapons and allow their destruction, he said, calling for the U.N. Security Council to pass a binding resolution with "firm consequences."

"Since the beginning, France has set two goals: punishment and deterrence," he said. "That is why we are now asking specific, rapid and verifiable commitments by the Syrian regime."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said she would "welcome" Lavrov's call for Syria to transfer control of its chemical weapons "to prevent an international strike."

"I believe that Russia can be most effective in encouraging the Syrian president to stop any use of chemical weapons and place all his chemical munitions, as well as storage facilities, under United Nations control until they can be destroyed," the California Democrat said.

Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said getting Syria to surrender the stockpiles "would be an important step."

"But this cannot be another excuse for delay or obstruction," Clinton said during an event at the White House Monday. "And Russia has to support the international community's efforts sincerely or be held to account."
 
lay all your praise on the Russian dictator who had to be lead by the nose by Kerry to do this

another Desh LIE...

State Dept says Kerry's comments were rhetorical. Kerry says there is no way Assad would do it. Then Putin steps in and says he will talk Assad into doing it. Then Desh gives credit to Kerry. Fucking amazing.
 
Yeah, seems the administration is having a tough one with this, they really want to bomb it seems, I don't see Congress going along with them. It was obviously that "smart diplomacy" we were promised. :rolleyes: This is from a bit more than an hour ago:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/

It's insane, don't you think? And the "evil in Desh's eye" Russians giving him his escape hatch just adds to the embarrassment. Kerry's gaffe may open a path for others to help him out of his danged hole he just can't stop digging.
 
Once again for Desh...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/state-department-kerry-syria_n_3893213.html

"Secretary Kerry was making a rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used," a U.S. State Department spokeswoman said in an emailed statement.

"His (Kerry's) point was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons, otherwise he would have done so long ago. That's why the world faces this moment."
 
another Desh LIE...

State Dept says Kerry's comments were rhetorical. Kerry says there is no way Assad would do it. Then Putin steps in and says he will talk Assad into doing it. Then Desh gives credit to Kerry. Fucking amazing.

The State Dept. was backtracking almost as soon as he uttered them. "Rhetorical"... lol. This Administration's foreign policy is dangerously inept.
 
hahahahahahahaha


yeap just keep thinking this is hell for Obama.

its works out to votes in congress for the idea.

You will all vote for it to stick it to Obama huh
 
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