The biggest problem with this country

Consider this, the money spent on the wedding will persuade many more Americans to get passports and come over to quaint old England for the wedding, you could call it stimulus money.
Ya'll got a lot to learn about the tourist industry. You'd get a lot more Yank tourist dollars if you just combined English ale with French hookers. Hell, if I want to see two over bred nitwits get married I can always drive to Boston.
 
Economic, political, and social culture in America is staggering under the sheer weight of its white underclass, which now numbers some sixty million. Generally unable to read at a functional level, they are easily manipulated by corporate-political interests to vote against advances in health and education, and even more easily mustered in support of any proposed military conflict, aggressive or otherwise. One-third of their children are born out of wedlock, and are unemployable by any contemporary industrialized-world standard. Even if we were to bring back their jobs from China and elsewhere -- a damned unlikely scenario -- they would be competing at a wage scale that would not meet even their basic needs...
...Just look at the way we showed up in force during the 2000 elections, hyped up on inchoate anger and ready to be deployed as liberal-ripping pit bulls by America's ultra-conservative political machinery. Snug middle-class liberals were stunned. Could that many people actually be supporting Anne Coulter's call for the jailing of liberals, or Rush Limbaugh's demand for the massive, forced psychiatric detention of Democrats? Or, more recently, could they honestly believe President Obama's proposed public healthcare plan would employ 'death panels' to decide who lives and who dies? Conservatives cackled with glee, and dubbed them the only real Americans."

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?t=28283

I'm really surprised she held back the N word. You know it was on the tip of her tongue.

Belief in a higher power is more important than her husband having a job???? What a fucking idiot.

I used to have faith in the intelligence of the American voter, no more. Brainwashed lemmings brought to the edge of destruction by right wing propaganda, who like this cow, votes against her own self interest.

Because of her stupidity her children will live in poverty.
Oh hell Crash, this aint nothing new. It's always been that way since the dawn of our Republic.
 
Wai' wai' wait, Hoopy, owd son. I didnt say ALL americans, I said America has millions of idiots like this.
Britain's 'mouth breathers don't even know what a 'politics' is and are more concerned with destroying their livers with cheap 2 for 1 booze.
There was a prog a year or two ago called 'Laddettes to Ladies' (or similar) If ever you want to see Britain at its worst try to find it.
Tom might assist.
To paraphrase a great American, George Carlin "Just think how stupid the average person is and then think that, by definition, half of them are even stupider."

 
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Oh hell Crash, this aint nothing new. It's always been that way since the dawn of our Republic.

Not necessarily. The political climate in the early days of our nation was arguably much more tolerant, allowing non-Christian Thomas Jefferson and Unitarian John Adams to ascend to the Presidency. Religion was as important to the people then as it is today, yet I do not think it was a litmus test.
 
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Wai' wai' wait, Hoopy, owd son. I didnt say ALL americans, I said America has millions of idiots like this.
Britain's 'mouth breathers don't even know what a 'politics' is and are more concerned with destroying their livers with cheap 2 for 1 booze.
There was a prog a year or two ago called 'Laddettes to Ladies' (or similar) If ever you want to see Britain at its worst try to find it.
Tom might assist.
To paraphrase a great American, George Carlin "Just think how stupid the average American is and then think that, by definition, half of them are even stupider."
 
Not necessarily. The political climate in the early days of our nation was arguably much more tolerant, allowing non-Christian Thomas Jefferson and Unitarian John Adams to ascend to the Presidency. Religion was as important to the people then as it is today, yet I do not think it was a litmus test.
I think your missing my point. It's not about being religious. One can be religious and quite intelligent. They are not mutually exclusive to the human condition. I'm talking about being just plain stupid. Dumber then a bagful of hammers, as intelligent as a fence post and just fucking ignorant. That woman wasn't ignorant cause she's religious. She's ignorant cause she's just plain stupid.
 
Not necessarily. The political climate in the early days of our nation was arguably much more tolerant, allowing non-Christian Thomas Jefferson and Unitarian John Adams to ascend to the Presidency. Religion was as important to the people then as it is today, yet I do not think it was a litmus test.

Actually I think that nonreligiousness was pretty much at it's height in America back then. The first and second great awakenings destroyed what the deists had built, and it isn't until now that nonreligiousness has even approached what it was at the founding.
 
I think your missing my point. It's not about being religious. One can be religious and quite intelligent. They are not mutually exclusive to the human condition. I'm talking about being just plain stupid. Dumber then a bagful of hammers, as intelligent as a fence post and just fucking ignorant. That woman wasn't ignorant cause she's religious. She's ignorant cause she's just plain stupid.

no intelligent person is religious. Religion is only reserved for stupid ignorant proles. To believe in an invisible man that watches over you and listens to your prayers is the height of stupidity. What you are instead noticing is the phenomenon of intelligent people lying. Many will lie and say they believe in god, whether it to be able to fit in with society, or not disappoint their parents, or because they want to take advantage of other peoples weakness of stupid beliefs in order to curry favor and gain trust/a personal relationship with another human being. In their heart of hearts however, if you were to lock them in a room and hook them up to a truth ray, you would see that there is no such thing as an intelligent religious person.
 
no intelligent person is religious. Religion is only reserved for stupid ignorant proles. To believe in an invisible man that watches over you and listens to your prayers is the height of stupidity. What you are instead noticing is the phenomenon of intelligent people lying. Many will lie and say they believe in god, whether it to be able to fit in with society, or not disappoint their parents, or because they want to take advantage of other peoples weakness of stupid beliefs in order to curry favor and gain trust/a personal relationship with another human being. In their heart of hearts however, if you were to lock them in a room and hook them up to a truth ray, you would see that there is no such thing as an intelligent religious person.

This is nonsense and reeks of narcissism. Ninety percent of the world believes in a higher power of some sort or another. To suggest that they're all idiots simply because they don't believe everything came into existence through a chain of random events is the height of arrogance.
 
She looks and acts like 90% of the women from the small town area I grew up in. Just another over fed, under loved, God fearen country girl who is utterly clueless about how to run a government for a nation of 300 million people.

You're kidding.

I didn't know.

I thought she was the next poster child for the "Lowered Expectations" dating site.:confused::)
 
This is nonsense and reeks of narcissism. Ninety percent of the world believes in a higher power of some sort or another. To suggest that they're all idiots simply because they don't believe everything came into existence through a chain of random events is the height of arrogance.

no, it is not arrogance. I am a realist and I refuse to bow to convention and pretend that having views of a religious nature is somehow "equal" of other belief systems. Yes, 90% of the world being idiots doesn't seem too surprising to me. Further, as I said earlier, many claim to be religious but really are not in practice. Only the truly stupid, uneducated, unwashed masses are religious. Intelligent people are not.
 
Grind is wise and glorious. As King of America, I shall promote Grind to Emperor of America, and we shall rule together until I realize that he doesn't agree with me on some issue and sentence him to death.
 
no intelligent person is religious. Religion is only reserved for stupid ignorant proles. To believe in an invisible man that watches over you and listens to your prayers is the height of stupidity. What you are instead noticing is the phenomenon of intelligent people lying. Many will lie and say they believe in god, whether it to be able to fit in with society, or not disappoint their parents, or because they want to take advantage of other peoples weakness of stupid beliefs in order to curry favor and gain trust/a personal relationship with another human being. In their heart of hearts however, if you were to lock them in a room and hook them up to a truth ray, you would see that there is no such thing as an intelligent religious person.

I actually agree with part of what you said. People who believe in an invisible man who watches over you, are stupid. The problem is, most religious people don't believe in an invisible man, and that's not what they pray to. You are under a false and rather childlike understanding of what God is, and apparently, you are incapable of comprehending God in any other way but as a physical entity or being. I don't know of anyone who believes in a physical being they define as God. Such an entity can't exist, it defies all logic.

However, if you can manage to expand your mind a bit, and think outside of the physical realm you are comfortable with, you realize the universe around us has order and organization. The miraculous life that surrounds us is meticulously complex and interdependent, the chemistry and physics are predictable, nothing is random. The possibility this all happened by pure chance, is very slim. This leaves the possibility it happened because of some divine intervention we don't understand, a very realistic consideration. Not an invisible man, but something not of the physical realm we are aware of.

When you consider the amount of knowledge man possesses, is far less than the knowledge yet to be gained, nothing can be dismissed from possibility. To do so, is arrogant, simple-minded, and foolishly stupid. There are tens of trillions of stars in the known universe, each most likely has a body of planets orbiting around them, and when you consider the material which makes up life on our planet is relatively common in the universe, the likelihood life exists elsewhere, is overwhelming. Perhaps the knowledge of what is responsible for our universe is known elsewhere, by other older and wiser forms of life? To argue that is not a possibility, is to close your mind and maintain ignorance.

One intriguing aspect to humanity which has always been of curiosity to me, is the profound connection mankind has always had to spiritual beliefs and faith. Now, many non-believers will discount this by explaining it away... it's simply mankind's way of dealing with what he doesn't understand. But... other living creatures lack understanding of things, they don't have a need to create a behavior to cope with that. If you were scientifically studying any form of life we know of, observing the behaviors of the species, to discover a unique attribute not found in other species of the same family, you have to conclude there is a fundamental reason for that behavior, it is somehow important to that species, and plays some role in the nature of the species itself. If you discover other distinctively unique attributes, you might make the rational assumption the attribute and behavior are co-related. With humans, we possess a unique attribute best defined as "humanity." It is the distinction which separates us from our cousins the chimpanzee and other similar primates. Is is coincidence that humans also possess the behavior of spiritual belief? If this were any other species, we would certainly conclude the two are somehow related to one another, there is some connection.

No one can force you to believe in God, and no one can "prove" God to you. And if you have closed your mind to any possibility that something outside the physical realm might exist, that you simply can't comprehend, that is entirely up to you. I can almost guarantee you that God is not a man, invisible or otherwise, and has no physical traits. My personal belief doesn't facilitate prayer to God, because I don't believe God has human attributes, it doesn't "care" if you are "good" or "bad" and it doesn't have a need to be worshiped or loved. I realize a great many people don't agree with my view of God, and I am fine with that. I am not 100% sure of what God is, maybe they are right and I am wrong. I just know what I know... I don't "believe" in God, I personally know and understand the spiritual guiding force of the universe, I have felt it, I have experienced its presence. For someone to try and tell me that doesn't exist, is like me telling you that your own mother doesn't exist.
 
no intelligent person is religious. Religion is only reserved for stupid ignorant proles. To believe in an invisible man that watches over you and listens to your prayers is the height of stupidity. What you are instead noticing is the phenomenon of intelligent people lying. Many will lie and say they believe in god, whether it to be able to fit in with society, or not disappoint their parents, or because they want to take advantage of other peoples weakness of stupid beliefs in order to curry favor and gain trust/a personal relationship with another human being. In their heart of hearts however, if you were to lock them in a room and hook them up to a truth ray, you would see that there is no such thing as an intelligent religious person.
Are you telling me your own mother is stupid? You're to young to be so cynical Grind. There are plenty of thoughtful religious persons out there and there are plenty of religious morons. Here's how you identify the two. If a person substitutes their religious beliefs carte blanche for rational thought then they are in fact worshiping a death philosophy. Since humans evolved rational thought as their primary survival mechanism worshiping a death philosophy is dumber then fuck as it's contradictory to survival. (Which does kinda make you wonder how Dixie hasn't managed to choke to death on a beach ball but that's another thread.)

However there are plenty of people who embrace both faith and rational thought as both having a time and a place. I think that can best be exemplified by the old slogan;

"In God we trust. All others pay cash!"
 
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You're kidding.

I didn't know.

I thought she was the next poster child for the "Lowered Expectations" dating site.:confused::)
I'd estimate that it would take a 12 pack and a pint of bourbon and half a jar of viagra before I'd hit it....but I'm not much of a drinker.

That's what I admire about Cap'n Billy.....He'd hit it!
 
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Grind is wise and glorious. As King of America, I shall promote Grind to Emperor of America, and we shall rule together until I realize that he doesn't agree with me on some issue and sentence him to death.

My bet is the issue would be capital punishment.
 
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