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Geeko Sportivo said:
Losing elections has consequences. Shocking huh?

Give me one good reason why a Majority should not make the decisions!

When Congress votes! When The People Vote! When The Supreme Court Votes!

Does Democracy only work when Congress and the Supreme Court Votes- but not for the people when we vote?

Democracy only works when we all go by the same rules- and there are no privileged characters.

Are you suggesting the Minority should be making all the rules and rulings?
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so, based on your position here, a majority could make slavery legal again, is that what you're saying?
 
The WOKE are illiberals, the opposite of liberals.

We are never going to save ourselves without significant numbers of people figuring this out.
 
Concart said:
Libertarianism is coffee house bullshit. It sounds almost feasible, but in practice, it is an impossibility. People who claim to be Libertarian are pretty quickly revealed to be something else altogether. You, for example, are a white nationalist, not a libertarian.
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there we go, let your hatred for, and ignorance of, Libertarians flow through you. you make yourself look dumber than evince with every post you make, you fucking racist moron.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Losing elections has consequences. Shocking huh?

Give me one good reason why a Majority should not make the decisions!

When Congress votes! When The People Vote! When The Supreme Court Votes!

Does Democracy only work when Congress and the Supreme Court Votes- but not for the people when we vote?

Democracy only works when we all go by the same rules- and there are no privileged characters.

Are you suggesting the Minority should be making all the rules and rulings?
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If you want to require a majority when the people vote we need to lobby our states to change the margin of victory from a plurality to a majority like George which would then require a run-off if no candidate won a majority.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
there we go, let your hatred for, and ignorance of, Libertarians flow through you. you make yourself look dumber than evince with every post you make, you fucking racist moron.
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I don't hate you. I'm amused by you. What you want is to implement your 'libertarianism' on an existing society in which white Europeans have all of the advantages. You want to freeze the game. But you can't. I am so much smarter than you that's it's actually laughable. You are nothing more than an angry white guy who thinks government has kept you from being rich. When it is your stupidity, laziness and sloth that hold you back. It is what it is.
 
Concart said:
I don't hate you. I'm amused by you. What you want is to implement your 'libertarianism' on an existing society in which white Europeans have all of the advantages. You want to freeze the game. But you can't. I am so much smarter than you that's it's actually laughable. You are nothing more than an angry white guy who thinks government has kept you from being rich. When it is your stupidity, laziness and sloth that hold you back. It is what it is.
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what's funny is you say this bullshit with 110% belief in your bullshit, despite the absolute fact that NOBODY here has EVER, I repeat, EVER been able to show one single post of mine that is racist........

the assumptions that some of you make, like yours, are laughable. I'm not stupid...........in fact I do a pretty highly technical job....despite NEVER having gone to college. that's something that pisses low IQ fucks like you off, having had to pay for your education. I'm certainly not lazy, given all the things i've done and had to do. I'm not rich, but i'm not poor either. I own a home.........take care of a disabled wife, do dog rescue with no volunteer help or funds..........and the only thing i'm angry at is idiots like you who think they know what's best for everyone

so take your racism, your hatred, and yes you do hate me, and take all your judgemental two dimensional political tunnel vision and stick it straight up your ass......
 
SmarterthanYou said:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” ― Alexander Fraser Tytler
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This statement is nonsense. Why? Because there is an assumption that my only self interest is enriching myself at the expense of others. That's flawed on many levels. The most important flaw in that logic is the belief that people recognize those candidates who will enrich them, when in fact they are easily fooled. In addition, the good of the collective is, in the long run, what benefits ME the most. Which is why I vote AGAINST the party that will enrich me personally the most. I believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. Libertarians are, by definition, utterly selfish.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
what's funny is you say this bullshit with 110% belief in your bullshit, despite the absolute fact that NOBODY here has EVER, I repeat, EVER been able to show one single post of mine that is racist........

the assumptions that some of you make, like yours, are laughable. I'm not stupid...........in fact I do a pretty highly technical job....despite NEVER having gone to college. that's something that pisses low IQ fucks like you off, having had to pay for your education. I'm certainly not lazy, given all the things i've done and had to do. I'm not rich, but i'm not poor either. I own a home.........take care of a disabled wife, do dog rescue with no volunteer help or funds..........and the only thing i'm angry at is idiots like you who think they know what's best for everyone

so take your racism, your hatred, and yes you do hate me, and take all your judgemental two dimensional political tunnel vision and stick it straight up your ass......
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I didn't call you racist. I called you a white nationalist, because that is exactly what you are. Any other questions? The hatred is all coming from you. Check the mirror.
 
Flash said:
If you want to require a majority when the people vote we need to lobby our states to change the margin of victory from a plurality to a majority like George which would then require a run-off if no candidate won a majority.
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States do that to deter 3rd parties from running. But, what happens is 3rd parties do run anyway, and causes there to always be a less than 50% vote count for the Democrats and the Republicans.

But, there is always a majority winner even when the race is a 3 way race unless two of the candidates tie. So, it's just a waste of time and money to do a runoff.

In a true Democracy, a winner would have already been decided according to what candidate got the most votes.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” ― Alexander Fraser Tytler
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The United States was never organized as a democracy.
A democracy is an unstable form of government. There is no constitution. There are no representatives. There is only mob rule. It usually dissolves into an oligarchy or dictatorship before long. Athens became a dictatorship.
 
floridafan said:
Yet you and the Republican Party love big government and what it can do for you.
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You are describing Democrats again. Inversion fallacy.
floridafan said:
Now you pretend that a guy who lives 3-400 years ago knows what is happening today
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The pattern described by Tytler is pretty accurate, as shown repetitively throughout the many years of society. While he describes this happening to a democracy, it happens to republics as well.
 
Into the Night said:
The United States was never organized as a democracy.
A democracy is an unstable form of government. There is no constitution. There are no representatives. There is only mob rule. It usually dissolves into an oligarchy or dictatorship before long. Athens became a dictatorship.
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It is imperialism that is on the romp now....rulers teamed up with an administrative/technical class who run things according to the orders of the rulers....as everybody lies constantly about what is happening.
 
archives said:
Not surprising, Tytler was cynical of democracy, critic of the Enlightenment thinkers

It isn’t only Democrats who spend, even before the pandemic, the last Administration was dropping dollars at an Olympian rate, and all during a growing economy

Problem with your viewpoint is that you don’t want the Government to do anything, yet you will look to it to enforce your social and political views
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Lie. The government of the United States (which currently does not exist), has authority and a purpose designated in the Constitution of the United States. It has NO authority outside of that given by that constitution.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Losing elections has consequences. Shocking huh?
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There was no election in 2020.
Geeko Sportivo said:
Give me one good reason why a Majority should not make the decisions!
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RQAA.
Geeko Sportivo said:
When Congress votes! When The People Vote! When The Supreme Court Votes!
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A democracy has no Congress and no Supreme Court.
Geeko Sportivo said:
Does Democracy only work when Congress and the Supreme Court Votes- but not for the people when we vote?
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A democracy has not Congress and no Supreme Court.
Geeko Sportivo said:
Democracy only works when we all go by the same rules- and there are no privileged characters.
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Democracy has never worked. Fortunately, the United States was not organized as a democracy.
Geeko Sportivo said:
Are you suggesting the Minority should be making all the rules and rulings?
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RQAA.
 
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