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yup I watched it.

"when is everything going to get back to normal" is one of the major themes of this season, so says matthew weiner.

is betty actually bummed about not having cancer? that's the vibe I got. I guess she wanted an excuse for being fat? O_o

lol @ pete knocking roger down a notch near the end
 
yup I watched it.

"when is everything going to get back to normal" is one of the major themes of this season, so says matthew weiner.

is betty actually bummed about not having cancer? that's the vibe I got. I guess she wanted an excuse for being fat? O_o

lol @ pete knocking roger down a notch near the end

Pete was awesome last night.

Well, I think the whole point of that question, probably, is that from their point of view (older white males) nothing will ever get back to normal again. It's a pretty cool theme, especially since we are still dealing with their resentment over that today, IMO.

Betty was really interesting. I thought she was disappointed because as she said, oh so I'm just fat. I can't wait to see where they go with this. Is this it for Betty? "Middle aged", fat and over at 30? Just getting fatter and fatter? Or will she get addicted to diet pills (which I think were basically speed back then), and get thin? And then what?
 
ooooook...

I swear, I was prettttty sure don was dreaming when he was strangling that girl... but at the same time I was like O_O, this could be legit

This episode was awesome. I liked the dark undertone nature of it, haha.

Couple of things:

- Apparently during that killing spree in the 60's the one that survived hid under a bed...

- Peggy's shakedown of roger was epic

- Did dawn steal money from peggy? I couldn't tell what the note really said, I think it said "sorry for putting you out" but it was on top of the purse, so I was wondering if the cash was taken. (probably not but I dunno)

- Catch the accordion connection, from the last time Joan was super depressed and made to play it for everyone?

- interesting how joan was the one that wanted to get married and have a family and leave work, and now things seem to be going in the opposite direction for her

- I hope sally doesn't get addicted to those pills, apparently they were used recreationally a lot in the 60's70's
 
ooooook...

I swear, I was prettttty sure don was dreaming when he was strangling that girl... but at the same time I was like O_O, this could be legit

This episode was awesome. I liked the dark undertone nature of it, haha.

Couple of things:

- Apparently during that killing spree in the 60's the one that survived hid under a bed...

- Peggy's shakedown of roger was epic

- Did dawn steal money from peggy? I couldn't tell what the note really said, I think it said "sorry for putting you out" but it was on top of the purse, so I was wondering if the cash was taken. (probably not but I dunno)

- Catch the accordion connection, from the last time Joan was super depressed and made to play it for everyone?

- interesting how joan was the one that wanted to get married and have a family and leave work, and now things seem to be going in the opposite direction for her

- I hope sally doesn't get addicted to those pills, apparently they were used recreationally a lot in the 60's70's

The scene with Roger and Peggy was the best one of the night to me. I love how much confidence Peggy has gained, to the point that she is now teasing Roger Sterling while brimming with sexual and professional confidence. And the way she took that 400 bucks from him was awesome.


But the line of the night was "I'm glad the army is making you feel like a man because I was so tired of doing it." Joan rocked last night. It's really fascinating to watch what is happening with her. I know you're right, she wanted marriage and to quit work, and it didn't work out that way, but I still don't think Joan is going to end up a tragic figure. Betty probably will, but not Joan.

I don't think Dawn took the money, no.
 
Oh and I loved that Joan alluded to the rape by telling him he's not a good man and he never had been, and then saying "and you know what I'm talking about". I don't think anyone could forget that rape, and it was always just sitting there.
 
So Grind what did you think? You said you identify with Pete more than anyone right? So how did you feel about Sunday night? He got his ass kicked - and by kind of a pansy. And a brit to boot. I mean, that'd pretty much be like you getting your ass kicked by Tom.
 
im definitely going to talk about this more when i am not 25 hour sleep deprived. but yes i love pete campell.

i never remember saying identify though O_O

although i probably am kind of like him in some ways.
 
im definitely going to talk about this more when i am not 25 hour sleep deprived. but yes i love pete campell.

i never remember saying identify though O_O

although i probably am kind of like him in some ways.

Oh, I identify with Peggy so i am probably projecting that onto you.

Grind are you trying to kill yourself or something? Driving when you haven't had any sleep at all? Be careful.
 
Oh and I loved that Joan alluded to the rape by telling him he's not a good man and he never had been, and then saying "and you know what I'm talking about". I don't think anyone could forget that rape, and it was always just sitting there.

It was shocking to me, and how many women don't think of it as rape, especially back then.

I am all caught up and love the show. This last weekends episode is really chilling. It makes me wonder with the talk of the gun, the nurses, the sniper shooting if there isn't going to be a incident with Campbell! He has been rejected, beat up and they are building the tension for one thing big to happen.
 
Not everyone thought like them even then though. And really in many ways, Don is a horrible person. But he is played by Jon Hamm, the hottest man on the planet, and also a liberal and a feminist!!, so it's all good. I mean, I certainly don't hold it against him.

It is terrible, but his looks do stop me from hating him immensely!
 
It was shocking to me, and how many women don't think of it as rape, especially back then.

I am all caught up and love the show. This last weekends episode is really chilling. It makes me wonder with the talk of the gun, the nurses, the sniper shooting if there isn't going to be a incident with Campbell! He has been rejected, beat up and they are building the tension for one thing big to happen.

Yes. But Pete may be a misdirection. Someone is probably going out the window, or something equivalent to that though. I think.

Yeah, back then there is no way what happened to Joan would have been considered rape, and even today...who knows. It's an awesome show! My favorite show definitely.
 
It is terrible, but his looks do stop me from hating him immensely!

I can't hate Don Draper because he is played by Jon Hamm, the most gorgeous man alive, a feminist, a liberal, a really funny guy, and someone who doesn't like Don Draper himself! It's just too much. All of that in one man? God truly is good.
 
I finally got to watch this week's episode last night. I had seen that it garnered rave reviews all over the internet. I think it's a bit overrated, but it was good. That whole thing with Peggy really rang true. She was trying to be Don, and the client wont' accept that from her. It's true what people are saying - that's partly sexism. But it's also ageism. The real test would come if say Ginsburg tried it. The client almost definitely wouldn't react with a threat of violence, but he wouldn't be cowed the way Don could cow him either. That comes with time, experience, and layers of confidence. Peggy's going to get there. Some day people will wither from one of her looks far more than they even did with Don.

This season seems to be building to something ominous and the threat of male violence is constantly looming in the background. Serial killers, nurses tortured and murdered, etc. So much of it seems to be projected onto Don. I saw some of my favorite male critics claiming that these scenes showed Don's desperate love for Megan. Then I found out they were saying that because supposedly Weiner said he wanted to convey that.

A woman running and screaming terrified from her husband after he kicks the door down...the building tension of what he's going to do to her when he catches her. Megan thrown to the floor.

This is what love looks like?
 
ive been slacking on mad men threading, I'll post some tonight!

I will say, that I vaped some weed before this episode and I was like.... pretty thrown off for a while. hahaha.
 
I finally got to watch this week's episode last night. I had seen that it garnered rave reviews all over the internet. I think it's a bit overrated, but it was good. That whole thing with Peggy really rang true. She was trying to be Don, and the client wont' accept that from her. It's true what people are saying - that's partly sexism. But it's also ageism. The real test would come if say Ginsburg tried it. The client almost definitely wouldn't react with a threat of violence, but he wouldn't be cowed the way Don could cow him either. That comes with time, experience, and layers of confidence. Peggy's going to get there. Some day people will wither from one of her looks far more than they even did with Don.

This season seems to be building to something ominous and the threat of male violence is constantly looming in the background. Serial killers, nurses tortured and murdered, etc. So much of it seems to be projected onto Don. I saw some of my favorite male critics claiming that these scenes showed Don's desperate love for Megan. Then I found out they were saying that because supposedly Weiner said he wanted to convey that.

A woman running and screaming terrified from her husband after he kicks the door down...the building tension of what he's going to do to her when he catches her. Megan thrown to the floor.

This is what love looks like?

It is an element that seems to have an ominous presence this season. I almost need to watch it, again. Nothing from Pete, either.

Roger taking the LSD was hilarious and that the marriage is over, look out Joanie, don't go there!
 
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