The Rich vs. Poor Pay Gap In America; When will the people say "enough is enough"..

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The Rich vs. Poor Pay Gap In America; When will the people say "enough is enough"..

The thing the idiot Right Bangers never question, recognize or attack is Government Fraud.

The programs are in place to help the needy, not the moochers.

The Right AND Left need to find a way to keep the moochers out of programs meant for the truly needy. Until then the Right Wing holds the argument "Everyone on welfare is a moocher" and the Left holds the argument "Everyone on welfare is needy" and the truly disabled get sick of this.

The thing you leftists never question is that these gobblement programs designed to help the poor end up enriching crony capitalists at the expense of the poor you claim to help.

There has been a lot of tyranny committed in the name of helping the poor hiding behind the skirts of the poor does note make you virtuous

 

[Robo]

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Capitalism is good, but it can be, and is, corrupt in America. We have media sources and ignorant Americans pushing for a bigger and bigger pay gap. Most of these ignorant Americans are poor ones who think they will earn more once their boss earns more, because their boss told them so.

No one ever stated that the rich shouldn't be rich or the invested and educated individual shouldn't make more money........but when is the line drawn? Do we have to see another depression like the Great Depression where people would line up in masses for a days work for pennies while the rich lived overly lavish lifestyles while the poor suffered and couldn't even pay for their families meals?

People do realize that when a select few hold all the money, only a select few buy products and we see recession/depression.............(R)ight? When the rich are just rich, instead of SUPER rich and the average person makes a decent wage is when our Country prospers. Yes, the Rich have to budget money too.........imagine that. And this isn't an attack on the rich, this is an attack for more equality in which the rich will still be rich, just not taking ALL the profits but respecting the workers as a team member.........Not Trumping around stating "I Built That by myself, my workers are expendable"...Let me tell you..NO business is successful with bad workers...So if you have a business that is successful....you have good workers. If they aren't good workers, they are replaced and the good worker that takes that job deserves good worker pay.

Many on here have stated in these talks that "It's not your business what the top takes, if they want to buy 3 mansions and an island it's not your choice, it's a free market" I answer better believe it is our business buddy. And the people can do something about it. The workers CAN stop working to demand more. In a situation like Wal-Mart today, they SHOULD stop working and demand more, I've never met a person that worked at Wal-Mart and said they treated them fairly, and I've met dozens. Yet the daughter of Sam Walton, Christie is worth $28.2Billion as a solo individual............................................................................................................................................................................................(do some wage math and see what 1 billion can do for the workers........maybe even 2..............or is it "How dare you, Christie deserves all of that, not the multi-thousand workers trying to provide for their families"...............do you get it yet?...How much is enough?.....A top psychiatrist for the rich recently had a discussion on the biggest problem and it was "I just can't get enough".

Even the poor are giving 3.2% to charities and the richest are giving 1.3% http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/04/why-the-rich-dont-give/309254/ "Jesus looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.”


Answer; It's all greed driven. Fox News/RW media and greedy rich are convincing the poor that they need to coddle the rich in order to make more money. Even when Corporation profits are at an all time high and workers wages are at an all time low. http://www.businessinsider.com/profits-at-high-wages-at-low-2013-4

I heard this "extremeist" comment before but I'm beginning to believe it, "The Right wants to cut education funding because if everyone is educated, who will they take money from?". These people were correct. Rich people are rich because they take it from the middle class/poor. "Convince the uneducated they need something, and they buy it~sales basics". Today I recognize equality is a bitch for people who are superficial and can't find other ways to shine. Today I believe the rich should still be rich..........but I think they should budget their money like everyone else, perhaps sell 2 yachats....sell the island....provide for your kids and not your great, great, great, great grandkids because if they run the business correctly, they will do just fine without the inheritance....

Superficial, ignorant money driven minds are the worst minds in the world, not just America. This has been a problem since before we recorded it. "The abuse of buying and selling votes crept in and money began to play an important part of determining elections. Later on, this process of corruption spread to the law courts. And then to the Army, and finally the Republic was subjected to the rule of emperors~Plutarch 120 A.D."...............I wonder if they learned anything yet but know they didn't read this far.

There are two reasons why there’s a gap and a growing gap between rich and poor in America.

#1, America doesn’t operate on pure capitalism. America operates on crony capitalism, i. e. the bribery system between Washington and Wall Street. All of it created by the fucking Duopoly of crooked bastard Democrat & Republican Parties and the thieving corrupted bastards within their ranks.

#2, The socialist welfare vote bribery scam makes it opportunistically inviting for oh so many to do nothing constructive, sit on their fucking asses and live off of the government’s extortion and redistribution of loot stolen from the more productive folks.

Thus you have the filthy criminal rich at the top and the fucking lazy irresponsible bastard morons at the bottom and thus the extraordinary finances gap. We need to look no further for the cause of that criminal tragedy than our corrupt fucking government.

 

[Anti-Party]

There are two reasons why there’s a gap and a growing gap between rich and poor in America.

#1, America doesn’t operate on pure capitalism. America operates on crony capitalism, i. e. the bribery system between Washington and Wall Street. All of it created by the fucking Duopoly of crooked bastard Democrat & Republican Parties and the thieving corrupted bastards within their ranks.

#2, The socialist welfare vote bribery scam makes it opportunistically inviting for oh so many to do nothing constructive, sit on their fucking asses and live off of the government’s extortion and redistribution of loot stolen from the more productive folks.

Thus you have the filthy criminal rich at the top and the fucking lazy irresponsible bastard morons at the bottom and thus the extraordinary finances gap. We need to look no further for the cause of that criminal tragedy than our corrupt fucking government.

So in your "#1" you openly admit Corporations are controlling our Government. This isn't news to many, and I'm happy to say it's one of the first smart things you have ever stated!
In your #2 You say that Welfare is out of control and call it a bribery as if the Left is only helping people to win votes. I watch Fox News, I know what you kids are taught. You are simply a puppet. Programs are for people in WORST CASE SCENARIOS........The Blind, the people that just lost their job, the people truly disabled ETC. Name one concept the Right has ever thought about to keep the lazy moochers from receiving these programs. They don't think about it they just say "it doesn't work, lets end it". In fact, if anything, they will sabotage it to ensure it doesn't work so they can end it.

You don't know a thing about the Left and you should educate yourself before attempting to post about politics. Fix disability financing instead of taking it away from the blind guy....brains.

 

[Anti-Party]

I can't really argue with this post of yours because you took both sides. Pick a side and we can continue the discussion.

Lol........"Does not compute.....it seems he used his brain and didn't follow guidelines and I can't google the answers to his statements!"

 

[Steelplate]

ch vs. Poor Pay Gap In America; When will the people say "enough is enough"..

So you agree with the food stamp numbers?

Most of whom are working...why should I have to pay for some cheapskate who doesn't want to pay his workers?

 

[The Dude]

So in your "#1" you openly admit Corporations are controlling our Government. This isn't news to many, and I'm happy to say it's one of the first smart things you have ever stated!
In your #2 You say that Welfare is out of control and call it a bribery as if the Left is only helping people to win votes. I watch Fox News, I know what you kids are taught. You are simply a puppet. Programs are for people in WORST CASE SCENARIOS........The Blind, the people that just lost their job, the people truly disabled ETC. Name one concept the Right has ever thought about to keep the lazy moochers from receiving these programs. They don't think about it they just say "it doesn't work, lets end it". In fact, if anything, they will sabotage it to ensure it doesn't work so they can end it.

You don't know a thing about the Left and you should educate yourself before attempting to post about politics. Fix disability financing instead of taking it away from the blind guy....brains.

Funny poor people don't use education as a reason for being rich

 

[Robo]

So in your "#1" you openly admit Corporations are controlling our Government. This isn't news to many, and I'm happy to say it's one of the first smart things you have ever stated!

I was exposing the government/Wall street bribery scam before your mammy was changing your stinking fucking shitty ass Goober!

Maybe someday after you get out of the third grade you’ll say something smart, huh moron?

In your #2 You say that Welfare is out of control and call it a bribery as if the Left is only helping people to win votes.

There’s all kinds of fucking welfare Goober corporate and social. #1 & #2 go hand & hand they’re twin sisters. The entire country has evolved from our founders great idea and experiment into a nation Of The Bribed, By The Bribed & For The Bribed. Democrats & Republicans and their corrupt parties are equally responsible for the perverted corrupted political system we have today. They’ve trashed our Constitution, trounced our liberties, killed off our youth in unconstitutional wars, enslaved our poor to government slave masters, extorted our middle class and shackled our future generations to ungodly debt.

I watch Fox News, I know what you kids are taught. You are simply a puppet. Programs are for people in WORST CASE SCENARIOS........The Blind, the people that just lost their job, the people truly disabled ETC.

36 million people getting food stamps Welfare Checks and Obama-phones are blind and disabled right Goober? 200 million people receiving some kind of unconstitutional federal government assistance. Multi billion $ corporations getting tax subsidies are all; blind, unemployed and disabled right Numb-Nuts?

Name one concept the Right has ever thought about to keep the lazy moochers from receiving these programs. They don't think about it they just say "it doesn't work, lets end it". In fact, if anything, they will sabotage it to ensure it doesn't work so they can end it.

The fucking rightist are Siamese Twins with the fucking leftist Goober. They create, support and expand federal unconstitutional socialist and corporate welfare programs right along with the fucking leftist. They only have different faces so we can tell em apart.

Constitutionalist/libertarians, (small l), on the other hand know what I’ve educated you about before many, many times. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the people." (Amendment 10, United States Constitution)

So you should see by now moron that the federal government has no authority to operate social & corporate socialist bribery scams. Socialism is solely the authority of the States and or the people.

You don't know a thing about the Left and you should educate yourself before attempting to post about politics. Fix disability financing instead of taking it away from the blind guy....brains.

Well Goober I’ve been watching the fucking incompetent and crooked federal government FIX shit for 77 years now and every-time they FIX something it’s twice as bad as before they fucking FIXED it.

I know all I need to know about y’all fucking lying crooked bastard leftist and rightist. You’re all a gang of blowhard crooked bastards or idiot bastards duped by the crooked duopoly bastards. Y’all need to open your fucking stupid eyes and ignore what the fucking politicians say and simply watch what the bastards do.

 

[Robo]

Looks like AP is at a loss for words, huh?

 

[Truth Detector]

Income inequality in this nation is getting worse not because the wealthy are trying to screw the rest of us, but because Government intrusion is making job growth nearly impossible.

One does not get out of poverty by striking for $15 an hour minimum wage laws; only retards and Marxists are stupid and gullible enough to buy this nonsense. They get out of poverty by getting educated, learning valuable skills and trades companies need and desire or by inventing something people like and need and starting their own businesses.

With the massive historic failure of Marxist and Socialist nations and easy ready access to such information, I am still amazed there are enough fools on the planet to elect inept buffoons like Obama.

But here people are, in a daily effort to remove all doubt they are such gullible fools.

 

[The Dude]

How dare you tie income to education!
Wtf are you a 1 percenter are something

 

[Anti-Party]

Funny poor people don't use education as a reason for being rich

Not everyone has access to it and not everyone is book smart. I know lots of people that are book smart and have no common sense at all and others that aren't book smart and are terrific workers and people in general. A degree doesn't mean you will be a hard worker, ask a farmer. Nearly all of my educated desk job friends poke around at their phones and internet while nearly all of my physical labor friends work their entire shift in no air conditioning, would get fired for using the phone or internet. And educated labor doesn't break down the brain, physical labor breaks down the body.

 

[Anti-Party]

Income inequality in this nation is getting worse not because the wealthy are trying to screw the rest of us, but because Government intrusion is making job growth nearly impossible.

One does not get out of poverty by striking for $15 an hour minimum wage laws; only retards and Marxists are stupid and gullible enough to buy this nonsense. They get out of poverty by getting educated, learning valuable skills and trades companies need and desire or by inventing something people like and need and starting their own businesses.

With the massive historic failure of Marxist and Socialist nations and easy ready access to such information, I am still amazed there are enough fools on the planet to elect inept buffoons like Obama.

But here people are, in a daily effort to remove all doubt they are such gullible fools.

This "Government intrustion is making it hard for me to make money" line is rich with the rich. The Rich actually OWN Government ever since you decided Corporations are people. How is that working out for you?

 

[Anti-Party]

I was exposing the government/Wall street bribery scam before your mammy was changing your stinking fucking shitty ass Goober!

Maybe someday after you get out of the third grade you’ll say something smart, huh moron?



There’s all kinds of fucking welfare Goober corporate and social. #1 & #2 go hand & hand they’re twin sisters. The entire country has evolved from our founders great idea and experiment into a nation Of The Bribed, By The Bribed & For The Bribed. Democrats & Republicans and their corrupt parties are equally responsible for the perverted corrupted political system we have today. They’ve trashed our Constitution, trounced our liberties, killed off our youth in unconstitutional wars, enslaved our poor to government slave masters, extorted our middle class and shackled our future generations to ungodly debt.



36 million people getting food stamps Welfare Checks and Obama-phones are blind and disabled right Goober? 200 million people receiving some kind of unconstitutional federal government assistance. Multi billion $ corporations getting tax subsidies are all; blind, unemployed and disabled right Numb-Nuts?



The fucking rightist are Siamese Twins with the fucking leftist Goober. They create, support and expand federal unconstitutional socialist and corporate welfare programs right along with the fucking leftist. They only have different faces so we can tell em apart.

Constitutionalist/libertarians, (small l), on the other hand know what I’ve educated you about before many, many times. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the people." (Amendment 10, United States Constitution)

So you should see by now moron that the federal government has no authority to operate social & corporate socialist bribery scams. Socialism is solely the authority of the States and or the people.



Well Goober I’ve been watching the fucking incompetent and crooked federal government FIX shit for 77 years now and every-time they FIX something it’s twice as bad as before they fucking FIXED it.

I know all I need to know about y’all fucking lying crooked bastard leftist and rightist. You’re all a gang of blowhard crooked bastards or idiot bastards duped by the crooked duopoly bastards. Y’all need to open your fucking stupid eyes and ignore what the fucking politicians say and simply watch what the bastards do.

I will say that you have posted a lot of trash-able garbage in the past but this post isn't bad. Looks like your nurse made you take your meds.

I actually like this post. Even though this kid was immature and called me a "Goober" like a 10 year old.

My big question is "How do we help the blind, without helping the fraud/lazy people/rich bankers etc." You have raised your rattlesnake flag and claimed that you don't want to help the blind because helping the blind is too hard and it's too easy to corrupt the system. While others still want to help the blind.

Did you ever once think that it would be easier to help the blind if one side wasn't so focused on "we must" and the other side was so focused on "we can't, it will never work".

Even though you are uneducated, it was a good post dude.

 

[Robo]

My big question is "How do we help the blind, without helping the fraud/lazy people/rich bankers etc." You have raised your rattlesnake flag and claimed that you don't want to help the blind because helping the blind is too hard and it's too easy to corrupt the system. While others still want to help the blind.

Surely Goober you’ll produce my quotes stating that “I don't want to help the blind because helping the blind is too hard and it's too easy to corrupt the system,” right Goober?

Actually what I’ve taught you several times before Goober is that if I had blind in my family I would do all I could to HELP them because help begins at home. Secondly, I do contribute to private charity which helps many. Thirdly, my National Constitution tells me that whenever home and charity aren’t providing enough help, forced social welfare is the authority of THE STATE and forbidden by the Constitution as a power of the federal government.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the people." (Amendment 10, United States Constitution)

Did you ever once think that it would be easier to help the blind if one side wasn't so focused on "we must" and the other side was so focused on "we can't, it will never work".

Even though you are uneducated, it was a good post dude.

Have you ever educated yourself on and with the actual strict construction of our Constitution Goober? Maybe you’ll get some of that when you graduate to the third grade, huh Goober? Oh! That’s right they don’t teach patriotism, logic and strict constitutional construction in the public school system, huh? That’s mostly a fucking gang of leftist teachers unions and leftist duped teachers striking for more, more, more in their greedy contracts.

 

[Truth Detector]

The Marxist rich versus poor argument is as dimwitted as the argument for Government mandated minimum wages.

Of course, when we are rapidly becoming a nation of uneducated fools thanks to teacher Unions and Union thuggery, one should expect such dullard arguments. Kool-aid swilling Liberals never look at how such Marxist ideologies lead to bad outcomes, they only care about what makes them feel emotionally warm and fuzzy.

The reason there is a growing wealth gap can be directly attributed to well intentioned legislative efforts by Democrats. There is little or no incentive in this economic malaise to risk capital. With incredibly low interest rates and savings rates, with a confused and incredibly complex tax code that incentivises spending, there is no capital accumulation or savings.

One does not earn a "living wage," whatever that can be defined as, by forcing WalMart or McDonalds to pay $15 an hour. One earns more by learning skills that companies need and will pay for or getting a college degree in an area of demand by the free market.

If you think McDonalds jobs or Walmart jobs are ways to make a living, you just might be a low information dullard who voted for Obama. They are ENTRY level jobs for young High School graduates or first time job seekers to gain some work experience. It is the STARTING POINT not the END GAME.

Don't believe me? Read what is happening in Venezuela today using these dullard Marxist feel good principles. Look at what happened in the former Soviet Union, Cuba and China.

The lessons have been taught thought the historic record. But one must first open ones tightly closed eyes and mind to comprehend it.

 

[The Dude]

Not everyone has access to it and not everyone is book smart. I know lots of people that are book smart and have no common sense at all and others that aren't book smart and are terrific workers and people in general. A degree doesn't mean you will be a hard worker, ask a farmer. Nearly all of my educated desk job friends poke around at their phones and internet while nearly all of my physical labor friends work their entire shift in no air conditioning, would get fired for using the phone or internet. And educated labor doesn't break down the brain, physical labor breaks down the body.

I bet you have a black friend too!

 

[The Dude]

Not everyone has access to it and not everyone is book smart. I know lots of people that are book smart and have no common sense at all and others that aren't book smart and are terrific workers and people in general. A degree doesn't mean you will be a hard worker, ask a farmer. Nearly all of my educated desk job friends poke around at their phones and internet while nearly all of my physical labor friends work their entire shift in no air conditioning, would get fired for using the phone or internet. And educated labor doesn't break down the brain, physical labor breaks down the body.

It's called working smarter not harder, loser
Everyone has access
Stimulating high finance does indeed work the brain

 

[CIA TOTALITARIANISM]

It's called working smarter not harder, loser
Everyone has access
Stimulating high finance does indeed work the brain

But ultimately your view is myopic. The world would cease to function if everyone were in finance. Basically you're an idiot.

 

[Granule]

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3220

Capitalism is good, but it can be, and is, corrupt in America. We have media sources and ignorant Americans pushing for a bigger and bigger pay gap. Most of these ignorant Americans are poor ones who think they will earn more once their boss earns more, because their boss told them so.

No one ever stated that the rich shouldn't be rich or the invested and educated individual shouldn't make more money........but when is the line drawn? Do we have to see another depression like the Great Depression where people would line up in masses for a days work for pennies while the rich lived overly lavish lifestyles while the poor suffered and couldn't even pay for their families meals?

People do realize that when a select few hold all the money, only a select few buy products and we see recession/depression.............(R)ight? When the rich are just rich, instead of SUPER rich and the average person makes a decent wage is when our Country prospers. Yes, the Rich have to budget money too.........imagine that. And this isn't an attack on the rich, this is an attack for more equality in which the rich will still be rich, just not taking ALL the profits but respecting the workers as a team member.........Not Trumping around stating "I Built That by myself, my workers are expendable"...Let me tell you..NO business is successful with bad workers...So if you have a business that is successful....you have good workers. If they aren't good workers, they are replaced and the good worker that takes that job deserves good worker pay.

Many on here have stated in these talks that "It's not your business what the top takes, if they want to buy 3 mansions and an island it's not your choice, it's a free market" I answer better believe it is our business buddy. And the people can do something about it. The workers CAN stop working to demand more. In a situation like Wal-Mart today, they SHOULD stop working and demand more, I've never met a person that worked at Wal-Mart and said they treated them fairly, and I've met dozens. Yet the daughter of Sam Walton, Christie is worth $28.2Billion as a solo individual............................................................................................................................................................................................(do some wage math and see what 1 billion can do for the workers........maybe even 2..............or is it "How dare you, Christie deserves all of that, not the multi-thousand workers trying to provide for their families"...............do you get it yet?...How much is enough?.....A top psychiatrist for the rich recently had a discussion on the biggest problem and it was "I just can't get enough".

Even the poor are giving 3.2% to charities and the richest are giving 1.3% http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/04/why-the-rich-dont-give/309254/ "Jesus looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the offering box, and he saw a poor widow put in two small copper coins. And he said, “Truly, I tell you, this poor widow has put in more than all of them. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.”


Answer; It's all greed driven. Fox News/RW media and greedy rich are convincing the poor that they need to coddle the rich in order to make more money. Even when Corporation profits are at an all time high and workers wages are at an all time low. http://www.businessinsider.com/profits-at-high-wages-at-low-2013-4

I heard this "extremeist" comment before but I'm beginning to believe it, "The Right wants to cut education funding because if everyone is educated, who will they take money from?". These people were correct. Rich people are rich because they take it from the middle class/poor. "Convince the uneducated they need something, and they buy it~sales basics". Today I recognize equality is a bitch for people who are superficial and can't find other ways to shine. Today I believe the rich should still be rich..........but I think they should budget their money like everyone else, perhaps sell 2 yachats....sell the island....provide for your kids and not your great, great, great, great grandkids because if they run the business correctly, they will do just fine without the inheritance....

Superficial, ignorant money driven minds are the worst minds in the world, not just America. This has been a problem since before we recorded it. "The abuse of buying and selling votes crept in and money began to play an important part of determining elections. Later on, this process of corruption spread to the law courts. And then to the Army, and finally the Republic was subjected to the rule of emperors~Plutarch 120 A.D."...............I wonder if they learned anything yet but know they didn't read this far.

I give 10% to my church, and that's GROSS, not NET.

 

[The Dude]

But ultimately your view is myopic. The world would cease to function if everyone were in finance. Basically you're an idiot.

We have many idiots like you that never could qualify for college