The Ron Paul that Ron Paul does not want you to know

Anyone who has the FEAR, and that's what it is, of black/white relationships should never, ever travel to Seattle. No place in America has more interracial relationships than Seattle, but this partly due to its proximity to Canada. Canadiens don't come with the same fears and phobias that Americans have.

Number 3 on the list of most interracial would be Minneapolis, home of Prince.

Of course number 1 and 2 would be Seattle. I've never been to Houston but I can imagine.

Obama is not going to help those who have the fear.

I have a 16 year old bi-racial son who lives in Arizona. Bi-racial children present some interesting and often quite humourous challenges .. like his mother trying to braid his hair. :)
Not all of them are humorous . . . as I'm sure you know. :)

My half sister is "bi-racial" and I wouldn't want to trade places with her. She had a lot of problems in school; there are few things in this world more cruel than a teenager.
 
Wow, this is really a shocker......I mean, I can't believe this stunning revelation. Knuckle-dragging redneck hicks don't approve of inter racial marriage. Who would have thought? Listening to you and Dixie, I was under the impression that blacks and whites had daily sing alongs, were color blind and voted for one another.



And one more thing............NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Yet somehow when I say it, its wrong?

LadyT, did you not have your coffee this morning or something? What's the point of being such an asshole?

What knuckle-dragging redneck hicks? There are no hicks living within 10 miles of me.
 
WM: "The one thing that still gets me is that a lot of people are freaked out by black-white marriages, though it isn't spoken about. I know most of the people in the my group of friends disagreed with me whenever I plainly told them I found nothing wrong with it."

Fascinating.

I know that I live in liberal la-la land, but I've never noticed anyone here who is publicly uncomfortable with inter-racial dating. In fact, I've never enev heard the n-word uttered publicly here, since I moved back here from Texas (where hearing that word was fairly commonplace). Not to say there aren't racists here - just that they're more marginalized than in the south.

There could also be the rural/urban/class element involved. In Houston, I had an girlfriend of color, and I never noticed any dirty looks or whispered comments in Houston. Of course, I was mostly around a more educated, suburban and professional crowd.

There weren't any dirty looks or whispered comments around the black guy I mentioned. They just told me that there was something weird about it. It wasn't a very heated discussion. We never really talked much about politics, but I was one of the most liberal people in the school.

Among the white-trash I'd sometimes hear the n-word. But they'd always justify sort of like Dixie stupidly did. "There are good black people and there are ******!" I'd roll my eyes. It's not like black people were actually called out though. There just remains this big sort of divide between the white and the black at the school that wasn't bridged by many people. The whites and the blacks would talk all the time in class and act friendly enough, but no whites and blacks ever hung out together. De jure seperation.

And the black politicians in Mississppi always lose against the whites by exactly 35% or so. Guess what the percentage of black people in the state there is?
 
Unfortunately, they also maintain a slave mentality. Generations of conditioning of those too afraid to leave the plantation. It highlights the differences between northern and southern Afican-American attitudes and perspectives.

Morgan Freeman and Oprah both came from the delta, I believe. No one's afraid to "leave the plantation", it's just they've been there all their life and everyone loves home. I'm sure they're happier than the people on the grey, bland streets working at the factories 9-8. I've been to the city before and there wasn't a moment more depressing in my entire life.

Interestingly enough, William Faulkner also came from around there.

Everyone from Mississippi has a sort of love-hate relationship with the state. I've always said the reason so many brilliant people come from here is because it's such a shithole.
 
Not all of them are humorous . . . as I'm sure you know. :)

My half sister is "bi-racial" and I wouldn't want to trade places with her. She had a lot of problems in school; there are few things in this world more cruel than a teenager.

Unfortunately, you're quite correct.

We try to focus on the good and humorous and deal with the ugly as it comes.

I tell me son that although he's bi-racial, society will view and judge him as a light-skin black man .. and so will the police. There's a special set of rules and training about police interaction that has to be taught to black children, especially the males.

I imagine some of the same is true for your sister as well.
 
My half sister is "bi-racial" and I wouldn't want to trade places with her. She had a lot of problems in school; there are few things in this world more cruel than a teenager.

Really? When I was in school I had plenty of biracial friends and I don't think anyone really made fun of them any more than any one else. As a matter of fact the only thing I can recall were a few oreo comments that they self-depricatingly made about themselves a lot of the time.
 
Morgan Freeman and Oprah both came from the delta, I believe. No one's afraid to "leave the plantation", it's just they've been there all their life and everyone loves home. I'm sure they're happier than the people on the grey, bland streets working at the factories 9-8. I've been to the city before and there wasn't a moment more depressing in my entire life.

Interestingly enough, William Faulkner also came from around there.

Everyone from Mississippi has a sort of love-hate relationship with the state. I've always said the reason so many brilliant people come from here is because it's such a shithole.

I respect your opinion, but I'm far from alone in my perspective of Mississippi and the "leave the plantation" mentality. Oprah may have CAME from the delta, but had she stayed there she wouldn't be sitting on top of the mega-empire she is now.

Morgan Feeman kinda' has that delta look and manner about him, which I imagine is why playing in "Driving Miss Daisy" was no big deal for him.

I know several people from Mississippi and they tell me that racism is so thick there you could cut it with a knife. Just because you've been somewhere all your life is no excuse for taking that crap. Even birds leave the nest.

That humble, docile, "you can call me a niggxx to my face" manner that is found in too many blacks from there should stay there.

Growing up, I never imagined myself living anywhere in the south. For me, the United States ended at the Mason-Dixon line. Beyond that, one would venture into the lands of dragons and monsters. I live in Atlanta now, but it has vastly changed, most of which is due to the influx of northern blacks moving here who were not about to settle for "chittlins".

While blacks in the south were getting fire-hosed, pelted with rocks, and beaten down during the struggles of the civil rights era, blacks everywhere else were demanding equality by any means necesasary, and if you pelted them, you might get shot. Keep in mind, the Jim Crow laws were in the south. That historic scene of crossing the Edmund Pettus bridge would have looked entirely different if that bridge were located in Chicago, New York, Detroit, Los Angeles, and almost anywhere but the south.

Peaceful demonstration had its place, and the Montgomery Bus Boycott was brilliant. But fierce resistance was also required to snap America out of a dementia it had maintained for almost 400 years.
 
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Really? When I was in school I had plenty of biracial friends and I don't think anyone really made fun of them any more than any one else. As a matter of fact the only thing I can recall were a few oreo comments that they self-depricatingly made about themselves a lot of the time.

A lot of them are "handsome and pretty", like Halle Berry, Prince, Obama .. and Marcus .. my son. Keeping him focused on education and the girls off him is a full time job. Girls had no such fascination about me when I was in high school. Any dates I got .. oh wait .. I never had a date in high school until my prom .. and she was 32 .. another long and sordid story that I'm sure no one wants to hear.

:)
 
A lot of them are "handsome and pretty", like Halle Berry, Prince, Obama .. and Marcus .. my son. Keeping him focused on education and the girls off him is a full time job. Girls had no such fascination about me when I was in high school. Any dates I got .. oh wait .. I never had a date in high school until my prom .. and she was 32 .. another long and sordid story that I'm sure no one wants to hear.

:)

LOL, alright. spill the beans. Why were you dating/molested (:readit: ) by a 32 y/o?
 
Growing up, I never imagined myself living anywhere in the south. For me, the United States ended at the Mason-Dixon line. Beyond that, one would venture into the lands of dragons and monsters. I live in Atlanta now, but it has vastly changed, most of which is due to the influx of northern blacks moving here who were not about to settle for "chittlins".

You're preaching to the choir about the Mason-Dixon line. I've often said that. And from what I understand the progressiveness you speak of in Atlanta drops off as soon as you hit rural Georgia.

Actually this reminds me of something my mother told me about. She was helping my aunt who lived in rural Georgia move a year or so ago with one of her good friends we "affectionately" refer to as "Bonnie the racist". She was a knuckle-dragging southern hick, (like many from Watermark's part of the woods), that had the audacity to use the n-word in reference to some elected official in front of my mother and aunt. My guess is this was her on good behaviour. Who knows what she says behind closed doors........actually, I have an idea.
 
You're preaching to the choir about the Mason-Dixon line. I've often said that. And from what I understand the progressiveness you speak of in Atlanta drops off as soon as you hit rural Georgia.

Actually this reminds me of something my mother told me about. She was helping my aunt who lived in rural Georgia move a year or so ago with one of her good friends we "affectionately" refer to as "Bonnie the racist". She was a knuckle-dragging southern hick, (like many from Watermark's part of the woods), that had the audacity to use the n-word in reference to some elected official in front of my mother and aunt. My guess is this was her on good behaviour. Who knows what she says behind closed doors........actually, I have an idea.

Correct and corect. As soon as you hit rural Georgia you're back in the land of dragons and monsters who are still fighting the Civil War and where Bonnie would feel right at home. The good news is that there is nothing in monsterland that I need. No desire to don armour and sword to visit.
 
LOL, alright. spill the beans. Why were you dating/molested (:readit: ) by a 32 y/o?

Actually, I've always preferred older women. She didn't molest me as much as I courted and wooed her. Girls were looking for things I didn't have but she liked my conversation and humor ... and some sordid naughty bits.

When we walked in the prom it seemed as if everything just suddenly stopped. Teachers, chaperones, and classmates were shocked, but we thought it was fun.

My mother thought I was certfiable.
 
I haven't travelled to the south only down to Virginia. But from what my wife has told me we would not be appreciated as a couple there.

Being Bi-racial is a different experience for people depending on who you are. I have been always treated as being monoracial however which race I am would depend on who you ask.

Many people reject the mixed race nature of people. My wife has been told numerous times by white people that she's just black to them. Black people have given her a tough time about her lighter skin. And it's hard growing up black in a family that is all white as her father abandoned her.

As for me it was also difficult as my mother didn't grow up here and back home things are very homogeneous so she didn't have as much familiarily with racism as I had to face growing up.

Our daugher being tri-racial will inevitably face difficulty as well and I dread the day she comes home crying because someone said an awful thing to her. But this is the reality we must face. We at least feel some solace though since we both will understand how she feels and be able to support her through it as well as our son.
 
Many people reject the mixed race nature of people. My wife has been told numerous times by white people that she's just black to them. Black people have given her a tough time about her lighter skin. And it's hard growing up black in a family that is all white as her father abandoned her.

Maybe I just have tough skin, but I've had the same issue and have had numerous nicknames/insults, but I've never lost sleep over it. Nor do I necessarily buy that its necessarily traumatizing. Unless you run into a particularly vicious group of people black is black. However I can definitely see how growing up in an all white family would be hard. We had a neighbor who was the result of an obviously interracial fair that grew up in a white family. She's a mess and I'm sure her skin tone set against the back drop of her family didn't help. But the family had a $hitload of problems anyway.


Our daugher being tri-racial will inevitably face difficulty as well and I dread the day she comes home crying because someone said an awful thing to her. But this is the reality we must face. We at least feel some solace though since we both will understand how she feels and be able to support her through it as well as our son.

Kids can be cruel. They most certainly learn such behaviour at home or from other kids that learn it at home. One has to wonder how an adult could teach their kids such cruelty.
 
Virginia was the first place I saw truly overt racism. When I walked into a store and saw a "We Support the KKK" sign and immediately exited I was actually approached by somebody who thought my actions were "questionable".
 
I haven't travelled to the south only down to Virginia. But from what my wife has told me we would not be appreciated as a couple there.

Being Bi-racial is a different experience for people depending on who you are. I have been always treated as being monoracial however which race I am would depend on who you ask.

Many people reject the mixed race nature of people. My wife has been told numerous times by white people that she's just black to them. Black people have given her a tough time about her lighter skin. And it's hard growing up black in a family that is all white as her father abandoned her.

As for me it was also difficult as my mother didn't grow up here and back home things are very homogeneous so she didn't have as much familiarily with racism as I had to face growing up.

Our daugher being tri-racial will inevitably face difficulty as well and I dread the day she comes home crying because someone said an awful thing to her. But this is the reality we must face. We at least feel some solace though since we both will understand how she feels and be able to support her through it as well as our son.


As long as we have theocrats, we'll have "racial" bigotry. I rember Dixie explaining to me how God created the "races" - something to do with the Tower of Babel, I think. :mad:


Hopefully, someday, rationality and enlightenment will prevail. There is no scientific or biological basis for separating people into "races". We all have the same DNA. We are, in fact, ALL children of africa. Our skin pigment and hair simply changed to suit the climates our ancestors migrated to out of africa.
 
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