The Ron Paul that Ron Paul does not want you to know

I have trod down your discrimination against whites road all I intend to. Some might enjoy arguing with a brick wall but not me.

Some just don't like to face their own anti-white discrimination and prejudice. Understanding one's own shortcomings is always difficult.
 
Excuse me....

Went off your paranoia-reduction meds again, huh?

Why don't you wait for Bottleborne to arrive...he speaks Chimpanzee sign language. Not well, other chimps look at each other and ask "Is it my imagination or does this f'ing guy make no sense?" when he's signing, but, you two should understand each other.


Darla...but at least wait until your hangover has subsided before you address what I have written...maybe then you would be able to understand the English language...You and Cippie are really becoming tiring with the "Drunk" comments...like I told you before at least come up with a new cut...'Chimp lover' and 'drunk' are really getting boring...(Just canned Lib responses)

Then again if you had something of value to debate with the need to call names would not be necessary!


Now back to the topic at hand...You and your ilk have nothing against Ron Paul other than the same old debate on Pro-choice vs Pro-life...and of course the Homosexual issues...all I saw in his Bio was he is family oriented well educated ...has a consistent voting record and speaks his mind...albeit I do not agree with all he supports most is within the acceptable range!
 
Darla...but at least wait until your hangover has subsided before you address what I have written...maybe then you would be able to understand the English language...You and Cippie are really becoming tiring with the "Drunk" comments...like I told you before at least come up with a new cut...'Chimp lover' and 'drunk' are really getting boring...(Just canned Lib responses)

kinda like "Ensign Pulver"?:pke:
 
Well...

Here's a link to a Houston Chronicle story on it that actually works.

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

Yeah. Unfortunately he is less than I expected.



after reading your posted link...all I can say is why are you caving in??...The comments he made were based on 'statistics'...albeit he probably could have chosen his words better...then again when writers do a column they interject their opinion by chosing sound bites that can be intepreted many ways...but they twist it to their agenda...enough said!
 
Which hate group has Ron Paul actually gone to a function of? So far you have posted a few quotes that have yet to be proven to be his in context. Then you posted a site that had his congressional office address on it.

So far you have about as much, or less, on this than AHZ does on the supposed Kennedy Family Conspiracy to Take Over The World....

I am not saying you are wrong in that those remarks are discomfitting, to say the least, I am saying that you are insisting his "participation" without evidence of such yet displayed.

At some point people of conscience are simply going to have to end the denials and face what is clearly before them. I recognize the depth of denial and continue to present the all-too-obvious.

Do a bit of research on the Political Cesspool where he has been a guest many times. It's the radio program for the White Citizens Council ... you'll find him listed under P, right above Prussian Blue, the white supremacist teenage singing duo. Waht was that Paul said about "racial identity" .. I guess that's only bad if you're not white.
http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/guestlist.php

DISTINGUISHED SPEAKERS DR. RON PAUL, MD AND DR. THOMAS E. WOODS, JR., PHD HIGHLIGHT JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY COUNCIL DINNER
http://web.archive.org/web/20051027041550/http://www.jbs.org/artman/publish/article_461.shtml

Of course the Birchers would view him as "distinguished" as he is the ONLY congressperson to get a 100% rating from them.
http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=004474M

Paul has a close association with Larry Pratt and Pete Peters, leader of Christian Identity which preaches that Jews are the offspring of Satan and that blacks are a "pre-Adamic" race of subhumans created before Adam and Eve. In his 1990 book, Armed People Victorious, he urged the United States to adopt a system of civil defense patrols like the one imposed on the population of Guatemala by its military bosses. "It is time that the United States return to reliance on an armed people," he wrote. "There is no acceptable alternative." Pratt endorses Paul for President and Paul refuses to distance himself from him.
http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/paul.htm

He has been a guest speaker on fuctions of the Neo-Confederate Movement, which espouses beliefs like, "A major factor in the monopoly by black athletes of our major sports is that many white potential athletes refuse to enter a sport that is dominated by blacks and to live in close personal and intimate contact with blacks that is required on athletic teams."

They are opposed to the Civil Rights Act and any and all civil rights legislation .. just like Paul.

They are opposed to all hate crime legislation .. just like Paul.

They openly advocate a division of the United States of America .. just like Paul. "Why do we need the federal government? There's no Cold War and no Communist threat. Many other nations are breaking into smaller and smaller pieces. The centralization of power in Washington occurred in a different time. Why not think about getting rid of the federal government, returning to the system of our Founders, and breaking up the United States into smaller government units?" .. Ron Paul

"Negroes, Asians and Orientals (is Japan the exception?); Hispanics, Latins, and Eastern Europeans; have no temperament for democracy, never had, and probably never will ..." .. which mirrors a comment by Paul about blacks.

They are supportive of violence against gays and Lesbians.

April 7th to 9th 1995 it held a symposium on "Secession, State, and Economy" in Charleston, South Carolina. One speaker was former member of Congress Ron Paul.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000919191637/http://www.templeofdemocracy.com/Essay1.htm

This is PARTICIPATION and why would any sane politician even remotely associate themselves with such groups .. which HE HAS NEVER REPUDIATED?

I have no illusions about being able to convince everyone and I'm not trying to do so. But common sense is all that's required here.
 
after reading your posted link...all I can say is why are you caving in??...The comments he made were based on 'statistics'...albeit he probably could have chosen his words better...then again when writers do a column they interject their opinion by chosing sound bites that can be intepreted many ways...but they twist it to their agenda...enough said!

I have no problem with what YOU choose to believe.

Enough said about that.
 
And what time was this?

Ohhhh. I see. 1996.

Since then what has he won by? And in the run off, at the R assembly it turns out that Paul won? Interesting. You had to go back to the Congressional District Assembly to find a result like that, and in 1996?! Come on, you can do better than that!

I already did.

He won his last election 60-40 against a democrat in a republican district.

I posted the '96 election to demonstrate how small a district this is.
 
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All I believe....

I have no problem with what YOU choose to believe.

Enough said about that.


is to get both sides of the story...with credible facts to justify a opinion...after all we all have opinions!..."Theory without fact is Hypothesis...fact without theory is chaos"
 
is to get both sides of the story...with credible facts to justify a opinion...after all we all have opinions!..."Theory without fact is Hypothesis...fact without theory is chaos"

That's brilliant, which I believe I heard in the 8th grade.

I've provided evidence for everything I've said. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you or perhaps best explained as cognitive dissonace. Either way, that has nothing to do with me.
 
is to get both sides of the story...with credible facts to justify a opinion...after all we all have opinions!..."Theory without fact is Hypothesis...fact without theory is chaos"

yeah kinda explains how the fools got us in the Iraq qaugmire doesn't it :D
 
Whatever....

That's brilliant, which I believe I heard in the 8th grade.

I've provided evidence for everything I've said. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you or perhaps best explained as cognitive dissonace. Either way, that has nothing to do with me.


Professor!:rolleyes:
 
after reading your posted link...all I can say is why are you caving in??...The comments he made were based on 'statistics'...albeit he probably could have chosen his words better...then again when writers do a column they interject their opinion by chosing sound bites that can be intepreted many ways...but they twist it to their agenda...enough said!
Not particularly...

I still am attempting to find any copy at all of these newsletters, so far all I have is reports of quotes taken from them. I'd like to read the full newsletter so that I can see what was put out. So far the only reports I find of them are on blogspots and editorials taken from papers back in 1996 but not linked to the actual paper's sites.

The evidence is flimsy so far.
 
I already did.

He won his last election 60-40 against a democrat in a republican district.

I posted the '96 election to demonstrate how small a district this is.
It is more evidence of how small of a group have an interest in the primaries than it is on how small of a district he comes from.

It also ignores the redistricting that has happened since then. Regardless, you posted the numbers as if R. Paul were going to suddenly lose the next election and used these numbers to support your idea. He won that runoff and has been elected by huge margins since. He is very unlikely to lose his seat when he is out of the primary.
 
Exactly....

Not particularly...

I still am attempting to find any copy at all of these newsletters, so far all I have is reports of quotes taken from them. I'd like to read the full newsletter so that I can see what was put out. So far the only reports I find of them are on blogspots and editorials taken from papers back in 1996 but not linked to the actual paper's sites.

The evidence is flimsy so far.


This also was my analysis...it appears as if hype and the old 'Twist' was pushed forward by 'blackascoal'...he put up a few alleged quotes or writings with absolutely no credible links to compare!
 
Even if he said "whites are god's chosen people" I wouldn't care. Everyone has a right to racial pride, even non jews. The line is crossed when you try to create a global social order by force where all those not of the dominant group are classified as less than and subservient.
 
Not particularly...

I still am attempting to find any copy at all of these newsletters, so far all I have is reports of quotes taken from them. I'd like to read the full newsletter so that I can see what was put out. So far the only reports I find of them are on blogspots and editorials taken from papers back in 1996 but not linked to the actual paper's sites.

The evidence is flimsy so far.

The only one available, as he will NOT release any others to the media as he promised. Not that I expect it will make any difference, but this one is on the LA riots ..
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/ftp.py?people/g/gannon.dan/1992/gannon.0793

Taken from the Ron Paul Political Report, 1120 NASA Blvd., Suite 104, Houston, TX 77058 for $50 per year. Call 1-800-766-7285.
 
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It is more evidence of how small of a group have an interest in the primaries than it is on how small of a district he comes from.

It also ignores the redistricting that has happened since then. Regardless, you posted the numbers as if R. Paul were going to suddenly lose the next election and used these numbers to support your idea. He won that runoff and has been elected by huge margins since. He is very unlikely to lose his seat when he is out of the primary.

NO .. I stated clearly why I used those numbers, not why YOU thought I did.

I have said .. VERY CLEARLY .. that I expect he will lose because of the anger REPUBLICANS have for him now. It does not take a svengali rethinking of what I have said. Now if you can demonstrate that REPUBLICANS are not angry with him then perhaps you'd have an argument. But in a REPUBLICAN district there is little question that I have a point.

If you have an agrument with that, perhaps you can check to see what his polling numbers are among REPUBLICANS which hover between 0-1%.
 
NO .. I stated clearly why I used those numbers, not why YOU thought I did.

I have said .. VERY CLEARLY .. that I expect he will lose because of the anger REPUBLICANS have for him now. It does not take a svengali rethinking of what I have said. Now if you can demonstrate that REPUBLICANS are not angry with him then perhaps you'd have an argument. But in a REPUBLICAN district there is little question that I have a point.

If you have an agrument with that, perhaps you can check to see what his polling numbers are among REPUBLICANS which hover between 0-1%.
You stated in the post, "See he can be defeated easily" or something much to that effect. I didn't need to pretend that you posted it for any other reason than as an explanation of how he was likely to lose his seat after he he lost in the presidential primaries.

He is very unlikely to lose his seat.
 
Ahhh it was "He most certainly can be beaten"... That was the point of the post. Directly quoted from the post.

Only 7% of his campaign funds come from within the district, the other 93% from outside the district.

He most certainly can be beaten.

Seriously, you should remember that we can actually go back and read these things.

How he fared in the past few elections is a far stronger indication of the "anger" republicans feel for him in his district. Almost none. He is extremely popular there. He isn't going to lose because he will lose in the primaries. He knows he is a long-shot and ran for a purpose other than the idea that he stood a chance to win.
 
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