The so called conservatives on JPP

RB 60 said:
EE! You're starting to sound like a leftist. Trump was better than Hillary, and is better policy wise than Biden. Trump is not our "idolr"!
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Trump is not your idol but to some here the sun rises and sets in Trump's ass. I like many of his policies, but he does a lot of things I really dislike. So if that makes me a leftie so be it. I loved Bush but disliked many things he did. I was taught to be my own man so I go with my perceptions which are mostly correct.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Only to mental midgets who hate anyone questioning your idol Trump.
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Eagle_Eye said:
Why do the so called conservatives on JPP believe to be a conservative one must walk in lock step with Trump? True Republican conservatives give the president credit for his good policies but can openly disagree on presidential actions they feel are wrong for the country.

Here on JPP as soon as anyone disagrees with Trump they are immediately call a liberal. I suppose they believe the 1st amendment only applies to those who walk in lockstep with the president.

I know I will be attacked for this post but I am exercising my right to free speech.
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It's nothing to do with the 1st amendment but it is all about tribalism. It's a 'ride or die' mentality of either you're all in or you might as well be on the other side. And unfortunately it's permeates all our politics. From the left try being a black person who supports any Republican and see the names they are called (Uncle Tom, sellout, coon, not invited to the BBQ etc. etc.), it's not pretty.

Anyone who has followed politics through multiple administrations knows that each 'side' says one thing when in power and often something different when out of power. Thus the hypocrisy of calling it out when you don't like the person doing it and being ok with it when its done by a person you like. Not sure that will ever change. Tribalism and partisanship is too strong. This board is a perfect example.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Trump is not your idol but to some here the sun rises and sets in Trump's ass. I like many of his policies, but he does a lot of things I really dislike. So if that makes me a leftie so be it. I loved Bush but disliked many things he did. I was taught to be my own man so I go with my perceptions which are mostly correct.
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Understand, almost everyone dislikes something about the president, no matter who they may be. It isn't unusual.
I think Trump babbles too much, I'd cut him off of that twitter, he says stupid shit, but I agree with (most of) his policies.
Yep, I'm voting for him again with no reservations considering his opponent will be a puppet for the far left, whom I disagree.
I've had arguments with conservatives on this board, no big deal. But in the direction of things, Trump is the best candidate.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Why do the so called conservatives on JPP believe to be a conservative one must walk in lock step with Trump? True Republican conservatives give the president credit for his good policies but can openly disagree on presidential actions they feel are wrong for the country.

Here on JPP as soon as anyone disagrees with Trump they are immediately call a liberal. I suppose they believe the 1st amendment only applies to those who walk in lockstep with the president.

I know I will be attacked for this post but I am exercising my right to free speech.
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Is your pussy sore?
 
RB 60 said:
Well, I will try to make it simpler for you to understand...
Why do you care? I don't. Is that simple enough for you?
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Why do I care if a person is attacked for speaking out against a corrupt and incompetent leader? Seriously? You *don't* care?
 
RB 60 said:
Understand, almost everyone dislikes something about the president, no matter who they may be. It isn't unusual.
I think Trump babbles too much, I'd cut him off of that twitter, he says stupid shit, but I agree with (most of) his policies.
Yep, I'm voting for him again with no reservations considering his opponent will be a puppet for the far left, whom I disagree.
I've had arguments with conservatives on this board, no big deal. But in the direction of things, Trump is the best candidate.
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What scares me the most is the possibility that Biden will win resign and Harris becomes president.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Why do the so called conservatives on JPP believe to be a conservative one must walk in lock step with Trump? True Republican conservatives give the president credit for his good policies but can openly disagree on presidential actions they feel are wrong for the country.

Here on JPP as soon as anyone disagrees with Trump they are immediately call a liberal. I suppose they believe the 1st amendment only applies to those who walk in lockstep with the president.

I know I will be attacked for this post but I am exercising my right to free speech.
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Sad & true......... :hand: :hand: :hand:

If ppl in the party will not hold their leadership accountable, who will??

They need to be pushed & occasionally kicked to stay on course..

When Obama was elected I & many others did exactly this-held him to account, as best we could-not to bash him or just to critsize/tear down, but to hold him to his promises & responsibility to those that elected him...

THis is a classic example & one every voter should cherish:

Belafonte recounted what FDR replied upon hearing Randolph's remarks: "You know, Mr. Randolph, I've heard everything you've said tonight, and I couldn't agree with you more. I agree with everything that you've said, including my capacity to be able to right many of these wrongs and to use my power and the bully pulpit. ... But I would ask one thing of you, Mr. Randolph, and that is go out and make me do it."

That should make it quite clear..

This is an aid, not a hindrance..

FDR used it often, something to the affect: "this is not my doing or will, the ppl demand it of me".....cool_80_anim_gif.jpg
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Conservatives have *always* behaved like this. No dissent is allowed, nor is criticism of the dear leader. This is how they keep their politicians in line. Step out of it, and you're accused of being a RINO and you will be primaried. You can thank the Teatards for this, among others.

Lefties do the same thing but to a much lesser extent. I have friends who are Greenie and Bernie supporters who hate all other (D) candidates -- yet we can still talk civilly about Biden vs. ___ vs. ___ vs. Trump. Only a few get outraged over dissent. My conservative friends -- other than you and Uncle -- are just the opposite. They are fully invested in the Toadstool and you better be as well if you want to call yourself a conservative.
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:thup: Yep, pretty much what I have observed over many years..
 
Legion said:
I'm not the one who started a thread to complain about a "verbal lynching" because someone called me names, am I?

Fowl gave you some sympathy, which it seems you crave. Have you considered becoming one of her apparatchiks?
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Stop legion... The OP isn't about name calling, it is about the demand for lock-step conformity, but you knew that......... Name calling is a tool used to try & shut ppl up...........

Has anyone here ever heard you utter a foul word or thought opposing anything from your mango messiah?? :laugh:
 
cawacko said:
It's nothing to do with the 1st amendment but it is all about tribalism. It's a 'ride or die' mentality of either you're all in or you might as well be on the other side. And unfortunately it's permeates all our politics. From the left try being a black person who supports any Republican and see the names they are called (Uncle Tom, sellout, coon, not invited to the BBQ etc. etc.), it's not pretty.

Anyone who has followed politics through multiple administrations knows that each 'side' says one thing when in power and often something different when out of power. Thus the hypocrisy of calling it out when you don't like the person doing it and being ok with it when its done by a person you like. Not sure that will ever change. Tribalism and partisanship is too strong. This board is a perfect example.
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Well said :hand: :hand:
 
Shill said:
Stop legion...
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No. You don't get to stifle my freedom of expression. Muh rights! ;)

Shill said:
The OP isn't about name calling.........
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Eagle_Eye said:
I am not afraid of being called names.
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Shill said:
Name calling is a tool used to try & shut ppl up...........
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So you say, Shill.

Shill said:
Has anyone here ever heard you utter a foul word or thought opposing anything from your mango messiah?
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Not that I know of. Since I have no "messiah" (mango or otherwise), that's hardly surprising, Shill.
 
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