The Southern White Man's Party

Superfreak said:
Wow.... you believe the US is a "force of evil"?????
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In that part of the world, aside from the years under Roosevelt's "good neighbor policy" we certainly have been, and that you can act surprised shows me you really don't know much about what was done there.

There can be no other word for it.
 
Superfreak said:
Actually, Saudi Arabia would be the purely illogical and totally emotional strike. The 9/11 terrorists were primarily BORN in Saudi... but hardly from Saudi. Most had been banned from the Kingdom along with Bin Laden in the mid-90's.

But please, continue on with your mindless attempts to defend Chavez. Please continue to act as if it is false outrage. That is the idiots defense and you play it well.
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hmm but what about Pakistan harboring AQ ?
You seem to have skipped over that point....
 
Darla said:
In that part of the world, aside from the years under Roosevelt's "good neighbor policy" we certainly have been, and that you can act surprised shows me you really don't know much about what was done there.

There can be no other word for it.
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yep Darla, why else would there be a need for laws and treaties banning us from assisinating south and central american leaders....also for overthrowing governments in that region of the world.
 
Darla..........

Superfreak said:
Wow.... you believe the US is a "force of evil"?????
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Has regressed memories from her Catholic School days and hates anything that resembles discipline...she may have had a bad experience...so for this i can have some forgiveness,,,but thats about all...unless she learns to see the truth!
 
Darla said:
In that part of the world, aside from the years under Roosevelt's "good neighbor policy" we certainly have been, and that you can act surprised shows me you really don't know much about what was done there.

There can be no other word for it.
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Got ya... understood... no one can have a differing opinion from you because they would therefore have no clue of LA history... all we have done in South/Latin America is evil... can I get this "only our views count" attitude from moveon.org or do I need to go to IloveHugo.com?
 
uscitizen said:
yep Darla, why else would there be a need for laws and treaties banning us from assisinating south and central american leaders....also for overthrowing governments in that region of the world.
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There is an unshakeable belief, held by righties, that the US always acts with good intent, that US values are exceptional, this is American exceptionalism. And because Americans and America are exceptional, it follows that all of our acts are justified. We are justified even before we act.

It is an amazing belief system. I don't even know what to do with it really.
 
Superfreak said:
Got ya... understood... no one can have a differing opinion from you because they would therefore have no clue of LA history... all we have done in South/Latin America is evil... can I get this "only our views count" attitude from moveon.org or do I need to go to IloveHugo.com?
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Overall, our actions in that part of the world, have been an evil, or bad, force, not good. Yes. It's very simple.

Is there some benefit that overrides the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the torturing of hundreds of thousands more, that I am unaware of? Can you explain?
 
Superfreak said:
Wow.... you believe the US is a "force of evil"?????
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Not the american people.

The US Government with respect to central and south america, has certainly had a sordid history, involving coups, torture, interference, and assassination. Please tell me you remember some of that stuff, and haven't simply read the Ronald Reagan-approved version of our history in Latin American I'm sure there are good things we have done. Humanitarian aid, medical assisatance, etc.

I'd say on balance, the american people have done some really good things for latin america: our doctors, our engineers, our scientists, many of our citizens. Our government, has a pretty sorry record.
 
Warren said:
I love how Cypress always grabs the furthest definition of Communism when he's trying to defend against allegations of socialism.

Even Chavez, a self-identified Communist, hasn't taken all of the drastic steps which Cypress apparently sees as essential to be even slightly socialist.

Are you ever going to admit to yourself that your party does support socialist policies?
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TOTALLY ridiculous ..

What party are you talking about? .. Democrats?

Socialists?

Democrats are centrists, they aren't even liberal, let alone socialists.

But then again .. you're the cult guy that doesn't even know his own party.
 
Cypress said:
two can play this game ;)


It's hilarious to see libertarians demand american intervention and interference in the domestic affairs of another nation.
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LOL, very good point.

Or are the libertarians and independents just embaressed Republicans ?
 
uscitizen said:
hmm but what about Pakistan harboring AQ ?
You seem to have skipped over that point....
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The reason we do not attack Pakistan...

1) They have nukes
2) The government is trying to help to an extent and we want to encourage that. But that same government has lost control of the border region (if they ever had it).

3) They have nukes

4) They have nukes.
 
Cypress said:
two can play this game ;)


It's hilarious to see libertarians demand american intervention and interference in the domestic affairs of another nation.
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So far, it appears only BB has suggested any such action. He has not ever suggested that he is libertarian at all.
 
Darla said:
Overall, our actions in that part of the world, have been an evil, or bad, force, not good. Yes. It's very simple.

Is there some benefit that overrides the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the torturing of hundreds of thousands more, that I am unaware of? Can you explain?
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You are right... that is indeed a very simplistic view.
 
Damocles said:
So far, it appears only BB has suggested any such action. He has not ever suggested that he is libertarian at all.
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No he is a drunken moron, and violent thug. I don't even read his posts, so I am not considering him when I speak about right wing opinion on this issue.
 
Superfreak said:
You are right... that is indeed a very simplistic view.
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Ok, so you can't explain what would override the fact of those deaths and torturings.

I didn't think there would be anything. I know if I were one of those people it happened to, you wouldn't be able to come up with anything that would satisfy me, like, oh ok, then it's ok that I was tortured and my family murdered, we're cool now.
 
BS.................!

Cypress said:
My party supports social programs, that virtually the rest of the entire developed word, and much of the undeveloped world already has: universal healthcare, public pensions, a modest social safety net, and strong public education.

If that's socialism, then socialism as an ideology has been far more incredibly succcessful than I ever imagined. Finland, Denmark, and the Netherlands must be socialist paradises.
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Just admit it already you are a card carrier...sleep with Chavez and Putin all ya want...but ya are still ...in the end... a patsie for them!..Get a clue already!
 
Warren said:
WOW.
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LOL

Of course, if Saddam Hussein murdered hundreds of thousands of people, and tortured hundreds of thousands more, then it's ok to call him evil.

But when the US does it, there must be some good involved with it, because the US is a force for good in the world. "Everybody knows that".

What was the problem with Chavez again? Something about "brainwashing students in the schools" LOL
 
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