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Darla said:
LOL

Of course, if Saddam Hussein murdered hundreds of thousands of people, and tortured hundreds of thousands more, then it's ok to call him evil.

But when the US does it, there must be some good involved with it, because the US is a force for good in the world. "Everybody knows that".

What was the problem with Chavez again? Something about "brainwashing students in the schools" LOL
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Hey I'm not saying we're a good or even helpful force in the world.

Calling your home country a force of evil however might seem a bit extreme to reasonable people.
 
Warren said:
Hey I'm not saying we're a good or even helpful force in the world.

Calling your home country a force of evil however might seem a bit extreme to reasonable people.
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I specifically stated in "that part of the world".

I don't mind what I seem like to other people.
 
LMAO..............!

Darla said:
No he is a drunken moron, and violent thug. I don't even read his posts, so I am not considering him when I speak about right wing opinion on this issue.
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no hun I am not the 'drunkl'..but you are..drunk on Communism..and Damo is right I am not a Libertarian...just a right wing super conservative and mince no words...!
 
Warren said:
Hey I'm not saying we're a good or even helpful force in the world.

Calling your home country a force of evil however might seem a bit extreme to reasonable people.
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She perpetually confuses the people for the elite military/government complex, hence, lacking the proper mental constructs, she cannot differentiate her hatred properly.
 
Cypress said:
two can play this game ;)


It's hilarious to see libertarians demand american intervention and interference in the domestic affairs of another nation.
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Hey Cypress you're right. I believe I've mentioned the pressing need to militarily intervene in Venezuala in every post I've made. In fact, I think that every libertarian on JPP has thrown their full support behind the movement to invade Venezuala!

Don't be dishonest. We're debating the merits of Chavez's forced socialism. Acting like we're trying to intervene is a complete strawman.

On another note though, I can't understand why lefties seem so shocked and outraged when we call them socialist sympathizers. You are falling over yourselves to defend a full fledged Communist who is moving his country rapidly towards dictatorship, yet you balk at the notion that your support of nationalized healthcare is in any way socialistic.
 
AssHatZombie said:
She perpetually confuses the people for the elite military/government complex, hence, lacking the proper mental constructs, she cannot differentiate her hatred properly.
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I don't even believe that most Americans know about this, so how am I the one confusing them moron?

I also don't believe that willful ignorance is an excuse, they should know. But I don't consider them the guilty parties.

I think you are the one confusing the two, but you're a stupid little horny boy who needs to get my attention in any way possible.
 
Superfreak said:
You are right... that is indeed a very simplistic view.
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Have you ever been to latin america? People there have a long, and knowledgeable history of american meddling and intervention in latin america. There's a lot of ambient anger and frustration there about it. Unless you're going to dismiss all these people as liars, you have to acknowledge that US policy there has, on balance, not been positive. Although individual american citizens, and individual US policies have been helpful, no doubt. I mean, c'mon dude: surely you know how many rightwing authoritarians we backed and ran cover for?
 
Warren said:
Hey Cypress you're right. I believe I've mentioned the pressing need to militarily intervene in Venezuala in every post I've made. In fact, I think that every libertarian on JPP has thrown their full support behind the movement to invade Venezuala!

Don't be dishonest. We're debating the merits of Chavez's forced socialism. Acting like we're trying to intervene is a complete strawman.

On another note though, I can't understand why lefties seem so shocked and outraged when we call them socialist sympathizers. You are falling over yourselves to defend a full fledged Communist who is moving his country rapidly towards dictatorship, yet you balk at the notion that your support of nationalized healthcare is in any way socialistic.
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Warren, please don't lecture me about honesty.
 
Darla said:
I specifically stated in "that part of the world".

I don't mind what I seem like to other people.
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Lol did you just concede that you are not one of those "reasonable people"? :)

Seriously though, terms like good and evil are subjective.
 
Warren said:
Hey Cypress you're right. I believe I've mentioned the pressing need to militarily intervene in Venezuala in every post I've made. In fact, I think that every libertarian on JPP has thrown their full support behind the movement to invade Venezuala!

Don't be dishonest. We're debating the merits of Chavez's forced socialism. Acting like we're trying to intervene is a complete strawman.

On another note though, I can't understand why lefties seem so shocked and outraged when we call them socialist sympathizers. You are falling over yourselves to defend a full fledged Communist who is moving his country rapidly towards dictatorship, yet you balk at the notion that your support of nationalized healthcare is in any way socialistic.
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Universal health care, something that a super-majority of Americans now want ( are you claiming that a large part of Americans are "socialists"?) has nothing to do with this thread, or Chavez.

How are Chavez's social policies, whatever they might be, "forced" on the citizens who voted for him in free and fair elections?

I do not believe in unregulated free markets or capitalism, so isn't that being "forced on me" by your standards? What makes us different then?
 
Cypress said:
Warren, please don't lecture me about honesty.
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Then why do you suggest that anybody, other than BB, has suggested military action in Venezuela?

Nobody has. Nobody is suggesting any sort of action against their government here. Especially not "libertarians".
 
Damocles said:
Then why do you suggest that anybody, other than BB, has suggested military action in Venezuela?

Nobody has. Nobody is suggesting any sort of action against their government here. Especially not "libertarians".
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He specifically said "two can play that word game" when he said that, and it was in response to some claim that someone else made abotu "democrats defending Chavez".
 
AssHatZombie said:
woo hoo. Warren is kicking some lib ass! Go warren!
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I do what I can.

At the end of the day they're still going to go home socialists and I will go home a libertarian, so our debates are somewhat fruitless. My only hope is that undecided people will read our debates and see which side appears the most honest and intelligent.
 
Damocles said:
Then why do you suggest that anybody, other than BB, has suggested military action in Venezuela?

Nobody has. Nobody is suggesting any sort of action against their government here. Especially not "libertarians".
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Oh Gawd, is this the engineer in you? I was playing along with warren's ridiculous statement. And throwing it back at him. Because, I'm not defending chavez and never have. I'm just pointing out facts. Superfreak made a ton of mistakes I had to correct. And I don't care who the president of venezuela is - I'm arguing that we don't need to freak out about who thre prez of venezuela is
 
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